Kyiv

[Sorbonne]

Like anything else in this country, the rules are always set by the bureaucrat you have the misfortune to meet up with at any particular time and day. What the local immigration officer says may not be what the border guard will tell you when you get to passport control. I have had three different bureaucrats in three different offices at three different locations of the same government agency tell me three different things! And not one of them was ultimately right when the issue was resolved with a fourth office which was the correct one.

It is always best to be prepared for the worst, which in the case of overstaying the 90 days, can be a fine of up to 5,100 grivna or about $185. And the fine can also be less depending on the mood of the officer. It can also be paid on the spot by credit card!

Thanks for the info. I was wondering about the validity of the local immigration office, too, actually.

But it was the US Embassy website where I read that I should contact the local immigration office. You know the reality more than they do!

I'm starting to wonder if there is any visa I can apply for that gives me right to stay here for several months. This is because, say, if I want to go to Poland for 3 months and leave Ukraine but am unexpectedly denied entry, I want to come back to Ukraine immediately, but I'm afraid Ukraine won't let me in, resulting in having to go back to the US!

Maybe when I fly out of Kiev, I should ask at the Passport Control if I can come back in case of denied entry, or even make a deal. This may be easier at land borders.

[Uke Boy]

I think this one is it:

https://dmsu.gov.ua/en-home/6859/pec...ne-period.html

This one does not specifically say that you must have been here when the quarantine started on March 16.

But in any case I have been in contact with the local immigration office that tells me I have 30 days to leave after the quarantine ends.

Like anything else in this country, the rules are always set by the bureaucrat you have the misfortune to meet up with at any particular time and day. What the local immigration officer says may not be what the border guard will tell you when you get to passport control. I have had three different bureaucrats in three different offices at three different locations of the same government agency tell me three different things! And not one of them was ultimately right when the issue was resolved with a fourth office which was the correct one.

It is always best to be prepared for the worst, which in the case of overstaying the 90 days, can be a fine of up to 5,100 grivna or about $185. And the fine can also be less depending on the mood of the officer. It can also be paid on the spot by credit card!

[Sorbonne]

The scene of the crime was in the Pechersk District of Kiev, right across the street from the fairly new high rises known as the French Quarter and also near the Ocean Plaza Shopping Center. They probably took that piece of filth to one of the two nearby hospitals, either of which would have been easy to get a cab from there and rush to Borispol where he was later arrested. Good, fast work by the police.

With the nightclubs and discos now closed, it also means any strip clubs which may have been open are likely also closed.

It also seems that the very many ladies who had been awaiting an uptick in business for the autumn are now once again facing major financial losses, at least for September. It may be great for those of us still here so there may be a silver lining for you, after all if you cannot leave.

So this was at Akademika Filatov Street in the center of Kiev. I landed on Filatov Street in Borispil, only 2 km of KBP.

I agree. He had no plan.

[Sorbonne]

FYI, I thought I read somewhere that all visas were extended automatically by 30 days. I am having trouble finding the reference. Maybe someone else?

I think this one is it:

https://dmsu.gov.ua/en-home/6859/pec...ne-period.html

This one does not specifically say that you must have been here when the quarantine started on March 16.

But in any case I have been in contact with the local immigration office that tells me I have 30 days to leave after the quarantine ends.

[Sorbonne]

If there is a quarantine, you can just stay until the quarantine is over, regardless of what official rules say. Just shrug your shoulders and say all flights out were cancelled so you were stuck in Ukraine. At worst, border control charges $35 (1000 uah) or similar fine for overstaying your visa, then says you can't return to Ukraine until 90 days has passed. I overstayed in Spain this spring and no one said anything on exit.

Personally, I'm delighted to be "stuck" in Kyiv with my sugar baby. No where else I'd rather be right now.

Back in 2018 when I inadvertently overstayed in Ukraine by 2 days, I was made to pay 1600 UAH upon exit at the airport. This is still not so bad. But during this pandemic, breaking the law and compromising public health, as they might argue, may cast a heavier toll, I'm not sure.

"I overstayed in Spain this spring and no one said anything on exit. ".

This is amazing to me, LOL.

[Desin]

...I am hoping I can find a few college students and focus on my editing work while I attempt to live my youth that wasn't exactly a blast given the high risk factor and stress of my work in my twenties.

With that sentence, I must bid you godspeed. May you find your youth and live it like none before you!

[Sorbonne]

FYI, I thought I read somewhere that all visas were extended automatically by 30 days. I am having trouble finding the reference. Maybe someone else?

Yes, I believe the official rule is that for those, like myself, who were in Ukraine when the quarantine started in March, we can stay in Ukraine for 30 days after the quarantine ends.

And the quarantine has been extended month after month since March with no end in sight, so this is my situation.

But if I want to leave, I can do so anytime. But once I leave, I can only come back after 90 days, if the border is open.

[Jojosun]

Lockdown extended until end of Oct. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-he...-idUKKBN25M1HP.

KYIV (Reuters) - Ukraine on Wednesday imposed a temporary ban on most foreigners from entering the country until Sept. 28 and extended lockdown measures until the end of October to contain a recent spike in coronavirus cases.

Speaking at a televised cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Denys Shmygal also said the government would need to take a decision on Thursday on whether to ban major public events in September.

And.

The kind of Public event held annually in Uman to celebrate The Jewish New Year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aDA49YXELUo

https://112.international / politics / ukraine-bans-hasidim-pilgrims-from-visiting-uman-in-2020-53970. Html.

[Kozerog]

If there is a quarantine, you can just stay until the quarantine is over, regardless of what official rules say. Just shrug your shoulders and say all flights out were cancelled so you were stuck in Ukraine. At worst, border control charges $35 (1000 uah) or similar fine for overstaying your visa, then says you can't return to Ukraine until 90 days has passed. I overstayed in Spain this spring and no one said anything on exit.

Personally, I'm delighted to be "stuck" in Kyiv with my sugar baby. No where else I'd rather be right now.

[Uke Boy]

This is also a terrible news for me. Although I'm still in Ukraine, my option was to go out of Ukraine and to come back in 3 months.

But the bigger issue for me is that if Ukraine is doing this, does it mean many other countries in Europe are also doing this? The Schengen Area might close the external border completely again. As of now I think the Polish border is open for the Ukrainians and those who have residence permit in Poland.

You can leave at any time since outbound passengers have no issue in leaving but it will be a major risk for you of not being allowed in later if there is a second wave of the virus, as many expect there will be. You have some tough decisions to make.

[YummyPL]

This is also a terrible news for me. Although I'm still in Ukraine, my option was to go out of Ukraine and to come back in 3 months.

FYI, I thought I read somewhere that all visas were extended automatically by 30 days. I am having trouble finding the reference. Maybe someone else?

[PhotoSlider]

The scene of the crime seems to be right by KBP, indicating he was planning to do it and to fly right away. Then why was he suffocating? His plan apparently went awry?

I do not think he had a plan. Or whatever BDSM intentions he had, they didn't play out according to his plan.

The scene of the crime is 4 metro stations away from downtown, not that far at all. Actually close to Ocean Plaza Shopping Mall. Very cheap soviet apartment. It is sort of on the way to KBP, but barely 5-10% out of the city center, still ways to go to the airport. He didn't appear to have a good getaway plan.

For this sort of crime he will not be treated well in jail at all.

And this is not once a decade misfortune. These things happen. This is why upon entering apartment girls assess the environment and check in with their phone dispatcher. Then closer to the end of engagement they get a call again. This is both for logistics and security. Routing the girl to the next customer and taking care of her safety.

Girls from GIA told me in 2016 how they were running away from armed defenders of the Motherland through the bushes outside of Kiev.

This is also another reason why regular customers are valuable.

Poor soul! She was somebody's daughter, and somebody's mother herself.

[Uke Boy]

Jeez. First and foremost, so sorry for the woman. Second, a bad news for pros and semi-pros in need of money in Ukraine. Last but not least, a terrible news for us!

But what was going on with the freak? The scene of the crime seems to be right by KBP, indicating he was planning to do it and to fly right away. Then why was he suffocating? His plan apparently went awry?

The scene of the crime was in the Pechersk District of Kiev, right across the street from the fairly new high rises known as the French Quarter and also near the Ocean Plaza Shopping Center. They probably took that piece of filth to one of the two nearby hospitals, either of which would have been easy to get a cab from there and rush to Borispol where he was later arrested. Good, fast work by the police.

With the nightclubs and discos now closed, it also means any strip clubs which may have been open are likely also closed.

It also seems that the very many ladies who had been awaiting an uptick in business for the autumn are now once again facing major financial losses, at least for September. It may be great for those of us still here so there may be a silver lining for you, after all if you cannot leave.

[Sorbonne]

Now, more bad news for those who are planning a September arrival in Ukraine. Here is the article:

https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...yvaet-hranytsu

In short, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet has today decided to close the border for entry to all foreigners except those with residency status or humanitarian workers, diplomats, the usual cast of characters etc from 00:00 on August 29 and will run until 00:00 on September 28. If you have plans to come during this time, you need to cancel or change them to a later date, but be aware that they may also extend the entry ban. It is all up in the air now for those who have plans to come here.

Here is an update: https://www.obozrevatel.com/society/kabmin-ofitsialno-prodlil-karantin-v-ukraine-do-1-noyabrya.htm

Also, nightclubs and discos are being ordered to close but not restaurants.

This is also a terrible news for me. Although I'm still in Ukraine, my option was to go out of Ukraine and to come back in 3 months.

But the bigger issue for me is that if Ukraine is doing this, does it mean many other countries in Europe are also doing this? The Schengen Area might close the external border completely again. As of now I think the Polish border is open for the Ukrainians and those who have residence permit in Poland.

[Jojosun]

The girl was not to blame. She had five children who needed help and this job may have been her only option. May she rest in peace. May Mahmoud burn in hell after the hell of a Ukrainian prison camp.

Now, more bad news for those who are planning a September arrival in Ukraine. Here is the article:

https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...yvaet-hranytsu

In short, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet has today decided to close the border for entry to all foreigners except those with residency status or humanitarian workers, diplomats, the usual cast of characters etc from 00:00 on August 29 and will run until 00:00 on September 28. If you have plans to come during this time, you need to cancel or change them to a later date, but be aware that they may also extend the entry ban. It is all up in the air now for those who have plans to come here.

Here is an update: https://www.obozrevatel.com/society/kabmin-ofitsialno-prodlil-karantin-v-ukraine-do-1-noyabrya.htm

Also, nightclubs and discos are being ordered to close but not restaurants.

Lockdown extended until end of Oct. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-he...-idUKKBN25M1HP.

KYIV (Reuters) - Ukraine on Wednesday imposed a temporary ban on most foreigners from entering the country until Sept. 28 and extended lockdown measures until the end of October to contain a recent spike in coronavirus cases.

Speaking at a televised cabinet meeting, Prime Minister Denys Shmygal also said the government would need to take a decision on Thursday on whether to ban major public events in September.