Kyiv

[It Travel]

Jojo,

It’s a funny thing about posting photos. Do we do it as a service to fellow mongers? Sure. This way other can see if the girls are to his liking and might ask for her digits. However, I think the main reason is personal satisfaction; to show other our “preys”, the result of the hunt.

My main reason for taking photos of the girls is not to post them here. I do it to have something nice to look at when I’m home and help bringing back memories of good times. Photos do help illustrate a report, though, and might give the reader a better impression of the events.

However, there are some girls, whose photos I will not post in here. Freebies are some of them. I keep them to myself, so there is no reason to post their photos on a public forum. I don’t post photos of girls who are already familiar with this site either. I have met two girls who were already familiar with ISG, so it would be pretty stupid to post their photos if they told me not to. At least if I want to hook up with them again. The rest I have no problem with. I just don’t post their data and digits in public, only in PM’s to people whom I like and also contribute to keep ISG going.

Regarding writing style. Some guys DO like to read long reports and erotic novels. Other guys prefer only basic and essential information. Take a look in the “Germany – FKK Clubs” thread. It’s filled with long and very detailed reports, and these kinds of reports seem to be very popular.

Even though you don’t do any grammar or spell checking your contribution in here is highly appreciated. Personally, I always enjoy reading your reports.

I totally agree with you, posting a photo is a fun and like getting a hunting "trophy"... so I posted lots, but I have pivate ones as you too...

Must say that some girls are happy about that, and you might to get out more from them... (got several messages asking for numbers as I did...). Some are not at all... some are so so some do not know...

And of course some you get some mementoes of nice days... and what you have done or found...

So I'll post some mementoes in the photo section on Other Interests... some are seen some not..

Just My two cents

IT

[Mitsos1970]

Does anybody have experience from Rakuena massage parlor?

[Jojosun]

In my excitement, I forgot the best part. I discovered a great scam: teaching English. Hundreds of English schools across Kiev are always in need of native speakers to run "speaking clubs". These are basically, one one-hour sessions in which people come to talk with a native speaker. If you are a "native" English speaker, particularly with some experience in the educational system, they will gladly have you leading one of these sessions. Just phone up a few schools ask for a job, and soon you will have a paid gig (100-200 Grn/hr.). Of course, do not tell them that you will leave tomorrow, and be willing to do one session for free. Anyway, these clubs are attended by professional people, mostly young women, who come just from the office in their "sexy office girl" outfits. Truly outstanding! Just pick your favourite(s) at the end of the class and suggest that you can continue the session at the bar across the street. From there it is up to you to see how far you can take it!

And I should mention that regardless of how many girls one gets in a given time period, how much you pay, or whether one finds true love among them, the real attraction of Kiev is the thousands of gorgeous women who litter the streets nearly 24 hours per day. Okay, there is a period from about 2:00 am to 8:00 am, when there are not that many girls out there, but otherwise it is absolutely magnificent! Just sit back and enjoy the show!

I agree with you completely on the Second part of your Post. The Eye Candy.

But equally you can say the same thing about a Lot of Scandinavian cities & Towns in the summer.

But Kiev wins hands up& down on Prices, and availabilty of the Candy on show. That's why we head to Kiev.

The first part about moonlighting or volunteering by Teaching English In Kiev, is more suited to someone on a Longer stay in Kiev. With time on their hands

Again here Age, Charm, looks factors play the bigger part in scoring.

INMHO. Just picking up one's favourite from the class and heading with her to the nearest Bar and hoping to end up with her in the sack sooner rather than later, is just a bit of wishful thinking.

And more so, if its the monger's last night in Kiev.

I would rather head to British or Irish Pubs, where the Girls are already there, and much better still if they are half drunk anyway.

TWO into ONE. Saving time & money.

[Jojosun]

Clearly some think I am a bit too detailed in my reports so I will modify my reporting to keep the forum happier.

Hunter

Hunter.

We are all here as Volunteers for the great cause.

No one here is paid to post his experiences, nor is this Site with all this great info is a paid Site.

I get on here like I said because I enjoy it. I don't treat it as a slanging, bickering match, or to prove something.

WE all have different writing styles. A lot of mongers here their First Language is Not English.

Mine, is Sign and Body language, which I Practise on some Kiev Girls who I think their first word when they there Babies, was MONEY, not. Mummy, MOTHER.

You just carry on the way you like writing. If I & others here think its too detailed, they can skip the in the Sack details, or as you have suggested many times to(others) to put you on their ignore list.

You don't need to modify anything, or to keep anyone here happy.

After all you are not a Mongering Nanny, are you?

[Brotherrabitt]

Is it really worth it? I was there. Sushi costs 40 euro for two persons and every girl wants sushi. They expect presents. Cocktails cost 10 euro each and you have to buy one for everyone of her friends. You have to compete against the Arabs who spend sensesely and the Turks who grab the girls from the hands and bring them to their company. You are very likely to enter physical fight with ukrainian men during pick up. All girls know the game and exploit foreigners.

Mamba freebies do not appear or make mental calls or are clearly after free drinks and meals. They are totally unreliable. Everyone has soviet mentality.

So is Kiev really worth for freebies? Especially when there are so many other cheaper and easier places?

In my opinion the golden dawn of the crisis in 2009 is now over. Kiev has returned to the 2008 situation where most girls digging foreigners were scammers.

What you write is probably all true, in any case it's your experience, therefore valid, I also do not look at Kiev through pink glasses, however for me it is balanced by a shitload of very good experiences, with highly educated, non materialistic women, who are just looking for a good time and are not interested in expensive food, drinks, presents or whatever.

In my experience, Kiev is not very different from other cities/countries in this regard. Different categories of women everywhere I think.

Just as a matter of interest, and certainly no flame intended, what are the cheaper and easier places you mentioned ? Always interested in broadening my horizon .

Have fun.

BR

[Climaxnow]

Best you stay home.

[HunterDave]

Hunter Dave

Thanks for your great and useful reports. About true or not true reports I think it is a question of Luck and Talent at the same time. If someone doesn't succeed doesn't mean that all the other guys are the same. May be someone is more talented and more experienced especially in the ukrainian girl mentality plus other facts like looks, language and knowing how to play the game. In my few visits to Kiev I had some sucesses and failures but every time I had more successes as I have more experience in the langauge and in the game playing. And if I go more and more I will have more sucesses I hope as Hunter Dave do.

This is simply my point of view. Go on Hunter Dave and keep reporting.

Me and You,

Sure. Preparing to succeed by doing one's research in advance with multiple options when on the ground can reduce one's failure quotient and improve one's odds of success and the hope that luck will be on his side. But failing to prepare can doom one's plans from the git go.

Hope we can time a trip together so we can learn from each other's mongering tactics. I find one can always learn from another mongerer if he is receptive to learning. Good hunting! Clearly some think I am a bit too detailed in my reports so I will modify my reporting to keep the forum happier.

Hunter

[Hecker]

Is it really worth it? I was there. Sushi costs 40 euro for two persons and every girl wants sushi. They expect presents. Cocktails cost 10 euro each and you have to buy one for everyone of her friends. You have to compete against the Arabs who spend sensesely and the Turks who grab the girls from the hands and bring them to their company. You are very likely to enter physical fight with ukrainian men during pick up. All girls know the game and exploit foreigners.

Mamba freebies do not appear or make mental calls or are clearly after free drinks and meals. They are totally unreliable. Everyone has soviet mentality.

So is Kiev really worth for freebies? Especially when there are so many other cheaper and easier places?

In my opinion the golden dawn of the crisis in 2009 is now over. Kiev has returned to the 2008 situation where most girls digging foreigners were scammers.

[Mellowtrax]

Hi dear Mongers,

I just arrived in Kiev and found out, i forgot my V-Pills. Is it easy to buy Viagra in Kiev?

I also forgot my 2nd phone and need to buy a used or cheap phone.

Any ideas?

Easyease

It’s easy, but expensive to buy real Viagra in Kiev. You can get it in any “Apteka”, but have to pay +400 UAH for 4 pills. A cheaper alternative (about 120 UAH for 4 pills) is mentioned here by HunterDave: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...95#post1061695

If you need a phone, just go into one the many hundreds mobile shops in the underground. You can get a cheap, but decent phone for 250-300 UAH.

Happy hunting

[Jojosun]

Hi dear Mongers,

I just arrived in Kiev and found out, i forgot my V-Pills. Is it easy to buy Viagra in Kiev?

I also forgot my 2nd phone and need to buy a used or cheap phone.

Any ideas?

Easyease

If you didn't post that you have just arrived in Kiev, and found out no V_Pills on you. You wouldn't heve got my Idea.

JUST check on(Hunter Dave) posts a bit down here. He bought some generic Viagra in Kiev. He gives the Name & Address + Price.

He even posted what the G V Packet looks like.

They work wonders on him. Made him POP Five times in 24 hours.

I will try & break his record when I am In Kiev.

[Jojosun]

Gentlemen,

Will be heading into Kiev Ukraine for the first time in about 2 weeks and have read the forum extensively but nobody seems to give any rating to the best places to go.

If price was not the factor how would the seniors rank the following club in terms of having the best looking women while keeping easy entry into the clubs in mind also including the best time to go so I can watch the crowd come in.

Shooters, Budha bar, Avelon, Praptip, D/luxe.

Also i am brown in color 30 years (indian) with a decent look and dress very well so what kind of face control issue I am likely to get at the the above mentioned clubs. Is it a good idea to go early to the clubs or can I opt for the bottle service (buying a bottle or getting a table) which guarantees a sure entry like in the US. Does that system apply in Kiev as well? If it does any ideas how much it costs?


Money is not the issue - but my safetly is...I know some of the members might come back with mocking remarks on this but I was seriously considering hiring a body guard during my trip to clubs to kiev. Seniors - pro and cons of this would greatly help.

Since like I said - my safety is a big priority due the the skinhead problems in Kiev.

Your comments gentlemen.

Hi AC.

I had a look on your previous posts here, and can see that you are already a global mongerer with a lot of useful input into this board.

My 2 cents on your questions.

!. Money is not the issue.but your safety is, as you put it.

2You seem to be concerned about face Control at Clubs & guaranteed entry to the best clubs.

This is your first visit to Kiev & you say that you are staying there for 5 days. So to get the max of your stay with the Min effort & organization.

Here is what I would do myself, if Money wasn't an Issue.

Arrange a meet & greet Attractive female guide & interpreter at the Airport to assist you there.

She would be accompanied by a driver with a reliable new car to take you to Your Apartment or hotel. Choice is yours

This can be done by yourself, but for max benefit, it would be easier to get it done through the Same company.

Once you are in your new base in Kiev.. You can do a Welcoming & familiarising City guide. Again with an attractive female & a driver.

Total cost for this trip City tour which is optional of course is US$ 200 for 8 hours.

US$ 25 per hour.

Driver + Female interpreter US$ 145 for 4 hours.

Female interpreter + social companion US$ 120 for 4 hours.

There are 2 Companies who do this package In Kiev. They do have offices in Kiev, and one of them an Office in the Uk as well.

For Guaranteed entry to the Best clubs. This company can arrange this as well with an Attractive Female interpreter Companion & get a VIP welcome at all the Top club.

They can quote the cost for you per hour or per Night.

You can Change the interpreters & companions. If you want different ones the following nights.

Independent attractive Female interpreters Charge in the region of US$ 10 per hour. But bear in mind they do not have the connections to the TopClubs, nor Driver body guard 2 into one.

No. I don't work for any of the above, nor have I used them before.

Money was an issue & is an issue for me when deciding on Mongering holidays & flights.

Further comments on the above suggestions are most Welcome.

[EasyEase]

Hi dear Mongers,

I just arrived in Kiev and found out, i forgot my V-Pills. Is it easy to buy Viagra in Kiev?

I also forgot my 2nd phone and need to buy a used or cheap phone.

Any ideas?

Easyease

[Stevie69]

In my excitement, I forgot the best part. I discovered a great scam: teaching English. Hundreds of English schools across Kiev are always in need of native speakers to run "speaking clubs". These are basically, one one-hour sessions in which people come to talk with a native speaker. If you are a "native" English speaker, particularly with some experience in the educational system, they will gladly have you leading one of these sessions. Just phone up a few schools ask for a job, and soon you will have a paid gig (100-200 Grn/hr.). Of course, do not tell them that you will leave tomorrow, and be willing to do one session for free. Anyway, these clubs are attended by professional people, mostly young women, who come just from the office in their "sexy office girl" outfits. Truly outstanding! Just pick your favourite(s) at the end of the class and suggest that you can continue the session at the bar across the street. From there it is up to you to see how far you can take it!

And I should mention that regardless of how many girls one gets in a given time period, how much you pay, or whether one finds true love among them, the real attraction of Kiev is the thousands of gorgeous women who litter the streets nearly 24 hours per day. Okay, there is a period from about 2:00 am to 8:00 am, when there are not that many girls out there, but otherwise it is absolutely magnificent! Just sit back and enjoy the show!

[How14]

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[How14]

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