Kyiv

[Explorer69]

I am a mongerer of Cuba, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and other latin american countries. I am interested in going to the Ukriane, but I am not sure which city is best for me. I do not speak Russian, just some basic words. The question is would I score or would strike out in this country. I have a very good and enegetic personality. I am also pretty decent looking. I looked like Delko, from the show CSI:Miami. I am of Cuban heritage if you have not fugure out. Well, let me know how well I will do or how bad I will do without really knowing the language. I am planning on being there for 10 days.

It can be said in one word: KIEV!!

If you read the forum you easily understand why!

[El Cubanito]

I am a mongerer of Cuba, Dominican Republic, Costa Rica and other latin american countries. I am interested in going to the Ukriane, but I am not sure which city is best for me. I do not speak Russian, just some basic words. The question is would I score or would strike out in this country. I have a very good and enegetic personality. I am also pretty decent looking. I looked like Delko, from the show CSI:Miami. I am of Cuban heritage if you have not fugure out. Well, let me know how well I will do or how bad I will do without really knowing the language. I am planning on being there for 10 days.

[Kurenda]

Don't know from which country are you but first pick a location where you don't need a visa.
Belarus is not among this places since you will need a visa which is costly and sometimes problematic to get.
So the best option is Ukraine i.e. Kiev. Lot's of opportunities and things are much easier compared to Belarus for example.
After all just check the total number of forum posts at this moment:
Belarus - 520
Ukraine - 11,625
Why do you think is like this?
If I'm at your place I would stay in Kiev and go wild there and maybe occasionally check Chisinau just for change.
This is advice if your interest is mostly mongering. If you're looking country just for living then it needs much deeper exploring. Depending what you want. For example Belarus is much tight and stricter country and society and Ukraine is much easier and liberal. If we look at foreigners you can find them much much more living in Ukraine then in Belarus. Belarus is simply not for everybody.
And about learning russian very quickly you'll find it easier said than done.

[Hal Johnson]

I am traveling to Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova and Latvia for several months.

I am wondering where is the best place to live. I don't speak any Russian but I am planning on learning very quickly.

I love blondes and am looking for freebies. I also would like to live in the most inexpensive country of the four, but I want to live somewhere where there is still a pretty good social scene. In other words, if Belarus is cheaper than Ukraine, but there are lots more opportunities in Ukraine for freebies and blondes, than I would live in Ukraine.

What do you guys recommend? Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it! You guys have great pics and stories all through the forum which I have enjoyed.

Thanks!

[AColonizer]

Yes, the same Slavic trick: a "special price for you", the triple of the double price for you only

For your convenience, if you want covered oral and vaginal sex, the rate is 450 grivnas/first hour and looking around you can find 300$ for one DAY.

You, men, should understand:

- men should agree only when prices are Ukrainian sized;

- women often don't want any kind of negotiation;

- men often should come back home with no woman if price is not Ukrainian sized;

Cut losses also means: "OK, I payed a flight, an accommodation, everything to come to a Eastern country, but I didn't pay to make me scammed."

And Read This Fucking Forum BEFORE to leave your country!!!

Seeing me without a girl, they call their friend over. She's pretty enough, dark hair, slightly italian looking, maybe a bit of romanian. But I start talking to her because I don't want to be a prick and she turns out to be quite fun. And the other guys want to leave already. She says I get a special price, $200 for two hours. It's late, I'm tired and she has all the right bits in the right places. So off we all go.

[Billy Elliot]

Hey, am a London lad in Kiev on the weekend 14/15/16 November, but travelling alone. Anyone heading to the RP or Arena on any of those nights?

Staying at the Rus Hotel so not sure what the go is with bringing girls home (I assume security just gets some dosh and they then ignore it).

Cheers

Uke Boy,

Excellent written, and thanks for your input. I actually went back to River Palace on Monday. I arrived maybe around 2 am with some friends, and we started to check out the place. Of the three times I have been at RP since Friday I liked Monday the best. Not so crowded, and in my case, I prefer if I don't have to economically compete with businessmen from Western Europe, arriving every weekend.

I got introduced to two students and started pretty quick to discuss price. The girl I talked to (scale 6+) wanted $250, I said it was too much, explained my situation, and said that we could meet any day in the week. I told her $150 and she said it was ok and gave her number. I could probably go lower, but at the moment I was satisfied.

I had some drinks while checking out the stage. Many girls seemed bored, and not much action was going on. A little bit before 3 am, a girl came in my way, we had changed some words on Friday, and I would grade her as a 9. Her body is lovely (silicone breast, perfect ass), and her age maybe around 28-32, one of top 5 girls at the RP that night. She asked me if I wanted to join her. I asked her price, and she told me $300 for one hour, $500 for two hours. I asked for a student price – and she said $250. I replied and said that I would go with her for $200. She instantly agreed, so it let me a little bit confused. First of all, if she is $200, then the $150 is an overprice for the student girl with at least 50 bucks. Second, I may have been too impulsive. It was not even three, and this negotiation was going to easy – compared to Friday and Saturday. But I guess the demand is a lot higher weekends. I had great sex, but she was a professional. She had her taxi parked outside (additional 100 grivna), so despite I insisted we would go with my taxi driver (50 grivna in comparison) that was out of question. And despite the fact that I, most likely, was her last costumer, she didn't stay one minute extra, and I was only allowed to have sex with her once, which I was aware of before we started the session. Besides, no pictures – and no kissing.

Goblins is a perfect description, and it is a sad fact that of approximately ten girls in an apartment, I would say both in Poland and in Ukraine, only two are fuckable. But on one hand these two girls can be really hot if you are lucky.

I will check out the top-models site. I have made some arrangements with the Slavic Standard website, a serious dating site. My friend is into this, and I also want to check it out, even though I initially fear that this may turn out to be an expensive adventure, with dinners, Prada-bags (forget it) and so on. But I shall not judge it until I have dated a few girls. My friend has already met about 6-8 Kiev-girls through this agency, but he is now aiming for countryside-girls, since the ladies from Kiev are "mentally corrupt, greedy, and just try to constantly rip you off" (I just love that line). Anyhow, my hope is to set up a RP-look a like – but to have her as a freebie, which would be more healthy for me in all aspects.

I really love River Palace, and can really recommend it to anyone. If the price would have been more reasonable, we are talking $75 – $150, I would have taken my stuff from the dorms and moved right away to RP.

You are right about the GFE-thing. I just had too little experience of RP before writing that – or I was just lucky with that first girl I brought home (Saturday), who really was nice as a person.

How about other places? I finally got my hands over a Kyiv-guide, and I can see that several places advertise in it, including RP. Strip clubs like Millenium, Heaven, Paradise, Red Lion, Joss, and loads of massage institutes. But maybe those places only offers lap-dance, happy end, etc?

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[Barmer67]

On the next trip to Kiev I’m planning to take some time off work and take my local girl to some spa resort.
Can anyone recommend something like that in the Kiev vicinity (not more than 30-50km away, don’t want to waste my time on the roads).
Something in the forest or near the river, with saunas, spa treatments, massages, you know, but something with stile, not one of those Soviet stile sanatoriums ….

Thanks for the advice.
Barmer

[CallSign Papa]

Ever fired a kalashnikov? It's terrific fun, it really is. Unless you have a stonking hangover, in which case, you're stood there with your eyes half shut, lapsidaisically pointing an automatic weapon at a target wishing your mummy was there to make everything better.

Two hours later and we're back in the centre for some hair of the dog. I've said it before and I'll say it again, for me Ukrainian beer is in the top three beers of the world. It's cheap, it's tasty and as often as not, you want to bang the girl who's bringing it to you.

The plan for the saturday evening was very simple, hit a few bars and do our level best to secure hot girls before the need to visit RP surfaced. Well, all I can say is, the best laid plans of mice and men.

We again started at Buddha Bar, which on the saturday already had some knock-out women about at 8pm. Problem is, the prettier they are, the more unapproachable they seem, so we removed ourselves to Barsky where the girls are very approachable.

We found space by the bar and were talking to four very charming girls, clearly not p2p and very probably not even semi-pro. We're a few drinks in and the girls suggest we all decamp to Patipa (not our first choice, but probably a better club if you're there with girls). We've had a few drinks, and leave but Patipa ISN'T a better club even if you're there with girls. Who want drinks. And drink fast.

I didn't mind us paying for a few drinks, but we didn't seem to be getting anywhere with them, in fact, they were a bit more distant once there (maybe embarrased about being there with foreigners?) and so we cut our losses and guess where we ended up.

Inexplicably, my friends start talking to the two girls they'd taken the night before. I was stood at the bar not believing my eyes. Funny what beer does to a bloke. And of course, they now can't shake these two when they come back to the bar. There are maybe 30 girls all better looking and potentially better in bed, but at the end of the evening my idiot friends left with the same two girls, for the SAME PRICE.

It gets worse.

Seeing me without a girl, they call their friend over. She's pretty enough, dark hair, slightly italian looking, maybe a bit of romanian. But I start talking to her because I don't want to be a prick and she turns out to be quite fun. And the other guys want to leave already. She says I get a special price, $200 for two hours. It's late, I'm tired and she has all the right bits in the right places. So off we all go.

I can't remember her name, but she was like a Macdonalds, convenient but ultimately unfulfilling. My own fault and my excuse is that I took one for team.

I sound like a whinging git, but we really had a great weekend, Kyiv is a LOT of fun.

(Even when you miss your flight home because they've shut the bridge down to one lane, on a saturday afternoon, and then have to pay $500 for another ticket, and wait 9 hours for the next flight, even then it's worth it!)

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[CallSign Papa]

Been a bit slack getting this report wrote, seeing as I was in Kyiv nearly a month ago.

I and two friends were keen to escape the summer heat in Dubai and with Ramadan nearly over, and as I'd been crowing over the talent and general merriment to be had in Kyiv, that's where we headed.

I had to admit, I was slightly worried that I'd oversold the city. I'd mentioned the beautiful women, the wonderful beer, the tasty food and the fact that all of the above could be obtained for significantly less than what we pay in the UAE. However, our beers hadn't even arrived as we sat on Kreshatyk and both my friends were nursing borderline whiplash from the constant stream of pretty girls wondering by.

We stayed in an apartment just off Maidan, absolutely ideal.

So, to the action.

Ready for a night on the town we wandered over to Buddha Bar, but as it wasn't even 8pm it was understandably quiet. Talking to one of the waitresses, she mentioned Shooters as the place to go, but having been there before it doesn't usually get going until midnight, so we headed over to O'Brians and I gave my friends a brief introduction to speaking Russian (please, thanks, how much? etc).

On to Shooters and it was great to be heading back up the steps and through the door. I think it was about 60 grivnas, but included a drink (anything with redbull), and it was probably half full when we arrived. At this point, we had already decided that we'd hit the strip club tonight instead of Saturday (in the hope it'd be less busy patron-wise).

Towards 2pm (with me in full conversation with what I suspected was a semi-pro) the boys decided it was time for girls to undress and away we went (I got her number). I've only ever been to Rio and never had a bad time there, so that's where we ended up. If you've never been, make sure when you go that you get taken through to the back, otherwise you'll be in the 'foyer bar' which also has a stage but is lacking any decent action. One hour and several intimate lapdances later we're ready for a club, but then one of group decides it's time to just get laid, so off we go to RP.

I'm ambivalent about RP to say the least. Meet a girl in most other bars and chances are, if you can speak russian or they can speak english, you'll have an interesting conversation. Sprinkle on a little charm and who knows what might happen, but in RP they seem a lot colder. Anyway, we're there to fuck 'em not make friends I guess.

We only stay for 30 minutes because my two friends have already hooked up (both secured blonde girls for $200 but it was gone 3am by this point). I didn't see anything i liked and instead decided to call the girl i'd spoke to in Shooters. Her phone was off. And I had to get a cab back on my own because there was no room for me in the other cab.

At this point I'm trying to be philosophical about the evening and failing, but then I get a call from Nadya, she got my missed call. She agreed to come meet me in maidan (I told her my apartment was close), but we didn't talk about money, so i was still unsure if she was p2p. We got back to the apartment and the other two bedroom doors were locked with no noise to be heard thankfully, and so we relaxed on the couch with some johnny walker and some mtv.

Maybe half an hour later we're on my bed kissing and she's already half undressed when she seems to remember to ask about money. I ask how much, she says $200 for two hours, I say $150 and to stay till morning, she takes her bra off and $200 it is! She agreed to stay longer though.

Maybe I was a bit drunk (or a lot drunk) but the whole thing seemed quite intimate, very GFE and she was certainly built for fun. Any thoughts of morning fun were quickly dispelled when she woke me at 8am and asked for her money (maybe the first time for me a girl hasn't asked for it up front). I had a raging hangover and was happy for her to leave. I said I'd call (and did) but we didnt hook up for the rest of the trip, definitely next time though.

I got the impression she's not been a sem-pro for long, she said she was 23 but looked a few years older (27 maybe), but a very sweet girl. As for the boys, one of them was extremely disappointed at how the 'hottie' he'd picked up, suddenly turned into a 'nottie' when she undressed, funny how that happens sometimes. We laughed about it later.

To be continued...

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[Brotherrabitt]

....let me try to explain. Victoria who organised this girl, is a good friend of a friend and somebody we will need again in the future to organise girls for us and our clients, I have for example organised a "3 day all inclusive" trip for 5 of my european clients for next week, Victoria will make sure there are plenty of nice girls available for them. She did not send me a troll, by any standard the girl was quite pretty, firm hard body and wearing a dress tjhat revealed all her very nice curves, however we just didn't hit it off, happens sometimes, and is no problem, not her fault. So, gave her some money, kiss on the cheek, I am too tired after all, see you next time, ciao baby. No scandal, no bad vibes, no problems for the girl, no suggestion of misbehaviour to Victoria. Elegant.

In more general terms Cruiser, and take this as a friendly suggestion, from my first post, you flame, you doubt, my credibility, whatever, as far as I am concerned the "absolute logic"-syndrome, or believing your logic is always true and universal, and if a person does something not applying your logic, you flame, doubt, whatever. To make a very metrosexual remark, that is not very nice . I am a sensitive person you know, you have hurt my feelings .

Now, be nice to the new kid Cruiser, or I WILL give you Victoria''s number and ask her to send you a 125 kg, coalmining, russian tractor resembling whench from the East, with a voice like a chainsaw, who will ride you with her black pit until your dick and balls shrivvel to the size of peanuts, unless you are in this type of thing, then I will figure out something else .

Just pulling your chain man, keep it light.

Ciao

BR

Rabbit, it's just that your stories make no sense. But what in this crazy world does.

When I was in Kyiv in May I, the Frugal Fuhrer gave a girl 400uah for a taxi ride back to some town outside of Kyiv. But I had been talking to the girl for a couple of years. Stuff happens.

[Jojosun]

They mention five strip clubs in the Kiev-guide from the tourist agency (Millenium, Heaven, Paradise, Red Lion, Joss), and also plenty of massage institutes. I wonder if it is possible to have PP-action on these places, or if they only offer lap dances or an happy end? I want action, not a teaser. What's your experience here? Or shall I stick to River Palace, apartments, and escort websites?

Hi Meash.

I wouldn't bother with millenium, but try Rio, fab girls, and a nice club according to kiev veterans take out is available for $300.

I tried TIXI omut see my report, it is on the east side, it does have a sauna on site, and according to one poster some action is available for 500 uah upstairs. I didn't have time to investigate further, and I would recommend a lovely blond girl, there by the name of Vlada she speaks excellent english.

Entrance is 70 uah and drinks reasonable and it is next to XATA RABATA a fish restaurant, bang on the river.

[Cruiser D]

Rabbit, it's just that your stories make no sense. But what in this crazy world does.

When I was in Kyiv in May I, the Frugal Fuhrer gave a girl 400uah for a taxi ride back to some town outside of Kyiv. But I had been talking to the girl for a couple of years. Stuff happens.

[Meashearim]

They mention five strip clubs in the Kiev-guide from the tourist agency (Millenium, Heaven, Paradise, Red Lion, Joss), and also plenty of massage institutes. I wonder if it is possible to have PP-action on these places, or if they only offer lap dances or an happy end? I want action, not a teaser. What's your experience here? Or shall I stick to River Palace, apartments, and escort websites?

[Brotherrabitt]

.....personality issues involved here in this forum, ah well, nothing new on ISG. Just flame on brother, have fun.

Its a total story rabbit, anyway, tell us about when you got shot at, im really intrigued, or about when you were in a jail in some hell hole. cruisers right you could have went anywhere the metro goes for 50. i really cant think why you have come up with that stort about all this?

[Brotherrabitt]

Rabbit, your stories are a bit hard to believe.

.....but it is not really important what you believe Cruiser, or, should I say, not important at all.