Kyiv

[Dissey23]

I thought I already posted this but I guess I pressed the wrong button?

Anyways, I'll be traveling to Kiev in mid-late September for a few days specifically to do some mongering.

I was just wondering, since I'm of Asian descent (but born in North America) - do you guys know if I'll be treated differently - significantly? As in - violence, outright racism or just being treated badly?

Thanks guys!

[Dissey23]

Gentlemen,

I've been wondering - I'm thinking of going on a trip to Kiev for a few days to monger.

I'm of Asian descent but born in North America. Is there a good chance I'll run into racial violence or prejudice in Kiev being Asian?

Thanks!

[Diceman]

BTW guys would love recommendations on where to go tonight - thinking Avalon + RP. What do you reckon?

BTW Pizdyets thanks a bunch for that info, I'll check it out in the day. Reckon I can squeeze 3 different girls all into 1 day and night, if not load up with a double massage info I plan to get with 2 hotties today through some local big contacts guaranteed to be really hot, was told 2 gorgeous girls for $100. Will see how it goes. I got a 7 am flight the next day so guess I better catch some sleep

Arrived in Kiev with a day to spare before I met my Russian girl off the train, went dow to a salon and had a nice massage with lovely student type, nice finish, so back to my apartment to make some calls, arranged to meet a lovely 19yr old from a dating site, said she liked older men and her photos were nice, arranged to meet her at ploshtova plosha next to my apartment, I knew my girlfriends train arrives at 3-15 so I arrange to meet tanya at 1pm, thinking if chance arrives I can get her sorted. She arrived typically late at 1-40, she did not want to go to my apartment so we went for coffee and had a chat, lovely girl, very sexy, she was no pro, I didn't know what she wanted to be honest, I knew I had not enough time so told her I had to go, she was dissapointed but said its ok, I said I was free on 28th, she said she would take day off work, I knew it was there for me, so said goodbye, off I went, . At some stage I had been talking with borat, it was his last night, he was moaning on so I gave hima number of a girl who was asking to much, but she was easily a 9. I left it at that and met my girl, we had shower and that night went to meet borat and have a drink, met off shevchenko, he thanked me for the number I gave him and that he had a great time with her, all for free, fucking typical, so we say goodbye, next day I get a minute to myself and call this tanya who I had coffee with, she is very short with me, and asks why I "gave her number to my friend" I said no way did I do that, she said yes you did, and now I "can't trust you" I apologise but she says no way she now wants to see me, I tried to tell her "I have 3 tanysa in my phone " its an easy mistake, so she calls me a babenick and hangs up, how the fuck I have given borat her number is beyond me, but costly mistake, ha ha hope you enjoyed her borat, he told me he fucked her all over the place, its just my luck, if it was raining soup id be standing in the street with a fork in my hand, people like borat could fall in a bucket of shit and come out with a mars bar.

[Csim 2006]

Hello,

I'll be in Kiev next week onwards.

Any body around to meet up for a drink?

[Cruiser D]

speed, there isn't any going rate to send a girl away. if you ask for a 18 year old 180cm 55kilo blond and they send you a 28 year old 150cm 60kilo dark hair girl. you just simply say you are not the girl i asked for, go away. if you call up the agency and say 'send me a girl' then you deserve having yuri in a wig show up at your door. if you are dealing with a semi pro she might come in a taxi. the agencies have drivers for their girls. don't be a tool, it makes the rest of us look bad too.

'get lost' in english works well too. if you don't want to be rude don't shut the door in her face.

[AColonizer]

yes, but we often need to send away all girls, because they are very different from pictures.

therefore if agency tried to cheat us by fake pictures and it wasted our time because we need to await its girls, who are often not on time, it is our right not to pay any fare, taxi, bus, metro: just to say "no real pictures, no money" in russian of course.

the going rate to send a girl away is usually her taxi fare - usually 40 or 50 grv. sometimes girls from top models send two girls...they don't resemble the pics but at least you have a choice sent out to you - pick one or pick both. if you pick one the other one will ask for her taxi fare back.

[Speed Touch]

The going rate to send a girl away is usually her taxi fare - usually 40 or 50 grv. Sometimes girls from top models send two girls...they don't resemble the pics but at least you have a choice sent out to you - pick one or pick both. If you pick one the other one will ask for her taxi fare back.

Trust me Bez, I am getting my dick soaked next couple of days. You're right that my pro mongering priorities have not been set straight. My friends are all young good looking guys and I think we just thought we'd work the freebies. But like anywhere that's a hit and miss. At the same time my wallet remains equally fat so I will be having a good time over the next few days.

The russian template below is helpful thanks. Mind a translation?

I think my concern is you'll get an ugly girl with fake pics sent to your apartment and that you'll be stuck with her.

What is the going rate to send them away without getting mafia dropping by? 100 grivna?

[Curious12]

Bez not all of us speak Russian. And considering I learned the language for 6 days and manage to hold a 45 min convo with a girl @ Disco Radio Hall, I consider not doing too badly. But I still don't know what all the other stuff u wrote was about.

Borat,

Basically what Bez was talking about is how to talk to the agency. How to ask for the right girl

YA HACHU TOLKA TVOY NOVY DYEVUSHKA.
I only want your new girl.

TOLKA VOSYM NATSET ILI DYEVIT NATSET LYET.
Only 18 or 19 years old.

TOLKA MALINKY HOODINKA.
Only slim.

YESLI NYET, YA NYE HACHU.
If you don't have one, I don't want.

OO VAS YEST?
Do you have ?

MOY ADRES....................."
My address ....

[Cruiser D]

I know what you mean about the girl from RP. I had a similar experience to that when I was in Kyiv in May, except it was an old semi pro contact of mine and her GF. Geez, she was freakin annoying (my friend) but her was friend was pretty cool. I think I'm going to dump my old contact out of the picture the next time and just hook up with her friend. I hate it when girls do they old, let's drink before we fuck thing. Some girl tried that on me last weekend in NYC. I said try the hotel bar and give me a call when you are ready to come back up.

Just a side note when she starts capping on your small apartment and saying how much bigger hers is. Just say, yeah, it's too bad it's in the Ukraine. Make sure to say THE Ukraine too, that annoys em too.


Yeah, I dropped $200 there for lunch once. The food was good however, just overpriced. I was with a model btw - so I guess that makes it ok.

BTW CD I think it's the same restaurant, just off Kreschiatik. Some great eye candy, apparently alot of models that go to be scouted.

[Jojosun]

Going back and rechecking the lively exchange between Bez and Cruiser D I solved my previous q re salons, so I take it salons are private apts but are not called apts in the kiev post or what's on.

Now saunas and massage are they the same?

The reason I ask because in a previous report someone mentioned that he paid $15 for the sauna and $100 ph sex for the girl, yet it is quite cllear in the massage places in Kiev only erotic massage is available.

[Jojosun]

I have been reading and really enjoying and digesting all the tips and info put in by Borat from Kiev.

I notice that Bez Bazzara mentions that there are several listings for salons, or saunas, or massage, in the Kiev post and what's on.

Now we know what to get in massage places, but are salons, another term for massage places?

I have read previous posts re Kiev.

Please do not feel you need to reply if you haven't got the time or the patience for a newbie question.

[Pizdyets]

BTW guys would love recommendations on where to go tonight. Thinking Avalon + RP. What do you reckon?

Patipa maybe? It's always packed. Too fucking dark for my tastes though. I like to establish eye contact before approaching, and it's impossible if you can only see a silhouette of your target. Also, face control is very liberal with the ladies. I spotted plenty of blimps and grandmas who wouldn't ever see the inside of a decent Moscow club.

Also, maybe Arena? Girl ratio and quality is historically quite good. Though last time there it was Turks Night Out. I'm not racist, and some of my good friends are Turks. But it was just weird. Seriously, my wingman and I were the only white guys in the house. Anyone know what's up with that?

BTW Pizdyets thanks a bunch for that info, I'll check it out in the day.

No sweat, bro. Enjoy!

[Borat69]

BTW guys would love recommendations on where to go tonight - thinking Avalon + RP. What do you reckon?

BTW Pizdyets thanks a bunch for that info, I'll check it out in the day. Reckon I can squeeze 3 different girls all into 1 day and night, if not load up with a double massage info I plan to get with 2 hotties today through some local big contacts guaranteed to be really hot, was told 2 gorgeous girls for $100. Will see how it goes. I got a 7 am flight the next day so guess I better catch some sleep

[Borat69]

BTW CD I think it's the same restaurant, just off Kreschiatik. Some great eye candy, apparently alot of models that go to be scouted.

[Borat69]

Borat, it's hard to get the girls at RP to go for BBBJ's now - there's a reason for that. Sounds like you picked up a great girl and yet you are still complaining. It's not her fault you weren't ready to drill here more then once - you might want to lay off the heavy drinking. I would have been mad if she got in the bed wet too but I think that was your cue to fuck her. If she was that interested it might be time to convert her into a freebie or at least a $100 fuck.

Hey Cruiser

Yes shame about BBBJ but here in this country I prob better stay on the safe side, still don't want weird stuff growing on my dick just yet

What I'm saying is I approached it the wrong way. I gamed her in RP, while my approach got her to like me alot and dropped her prices by half and increased the time she spent, she got a bit too interested in my life, and talking about hers. I think her reasoning was that she could TALK instead of fuck.

The point is she is a HOOKER and a ***** and she wouldn't stop YAKKING on about how much money she has, saying shit like how small my apartment is (it's a standard 1 bedroom right in the city centre), how bigger her apartment is, how much money she makes, YAK YAK YAK.

I am not here to write a cover story for her on the cover of ***** magazine, and I paid good money to FUCK. Yes I got to fuck her, but by the time I did I was tired out of my mind, and as soon as I blew my load on her I just wanted to sleep.

Shame really. I was NOT drunk. She TRIED to get me drunk. I suggested fucking way earlier but she wanted to drink. Her getting into the bed wet was RIGHT after we fucked, she took a long ass shower for like 30 minutes, used up half my bottle of body wash, complained about how I didn't have conditioner for fuck's sake.

And no it was not a queue to fuck when she got in bed wet, she got the bed soaked, curled up in a ball with the blanket wrapped around her head. Said she will wake up and go at 7. WTF?? I didn't pay for this shit!

She is a great conversationalist but in terms of manners was pretty [CodeWord140] poor. I think I actually have played it down a bit, because I truly wanted to make the most of that money I paid.

My day experience was WAAAY better, for less than half the price. I will try to dig up the info for that apartment, it's located outside city centre.

Today is my last day, so I better have a few hot hot girls lined up to make up for it all.