Kyiv

[Explorer69]

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]

Please, stay at home, it is enough you are cheated by girls of your country, it is disaster for all of us if you are cheated by girls in Ukraine too.

Colon, why don't you just take your own advice and "stay at home" and if you need to, write about what you might possibly know a little bit about, namely your Italy and not about Ukraine.

I have been cheated perhaps once in all my years here and your complaints are just plain wrong and tiresome. Again, go away, please, permanently if possible.

I absolutely agree! After 30-40 visits to Ukraine, I cannot now remember that I ever was cheated by a girl! And if I were, it is long ago forgotten thanks to all the good and sweet girls who did not cheat me, they fucked me!

[Uke Boy]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]

Please, stay at home, it is enough you are cheated by girls of your country, it is disaster for all of us if you are cheated by girls in Ukraine too.

Colon, why don't you just take your own advice and "stay at home" and if you need to, write about what you might possibly know a little bit about, namely your Italy and not about Ukraine.

I have been cheated perhaps once in all my years here and your complaints are just plain wrong and tiresome. Again, go away, please, permanently if possible.

[AColonizer]

Please, here smart people only, wussies at home!

Here I prove again again again "your" sweet and tender girls are just great liers about everything, firstly about feelings, and secondly they are racist because they have great differences between locals and foreigners.

My reports are facts that I saw with my own eyes. Everybody could see what I saw because the window was in front of a street, just a stupid couldn't or wouldn't see what I saw in a massage salon and in a stripclub, open the eyes is enough.

Mongering means money/sex dealing, mongering is not charities, above all because girls are liers with no shame. If you are not looking for hard sex but just for sweet words from tender girls, please stay at home! Here girls are caring as much as fierce with their men.

I remember when I have been in San Francisco, just the first time, most girls in stripclubs asked "Do you want a blowjob? " or "Do you want sex? " and they had the same behaviour with foreigners and locals.

Please, stay at home, it is enough you are cheated by girls of your country, it is disaster for all of us if you are cheated by girls in Ukraine too.

[QUOTE=Uke Boy]

I am always angry when all girls ask my citinzenship and all of them answer "no sex" or "all with condom here": but I see clearly a deepthroat from outside throught the window!

Colon,

You are truly one sick puppy.

First, since you asked LS to explain, please do tell us the exact names of the places where you went in and observed a massage with a deep throat BJ? These are places I never want to enter. In my time here, I have never been to such a place and never want to be. I am not in the business of being a vouyer as you are. Now if you are watching from the street into an open window, I hope someone arrests you and takes you away for a long time.

At least now we have an idea of what your real problem is with women. You are one angry client (self-confessed) and of course that attitude the girl can see and understand. No wonder you can't get anywhere, your attitude is a huge handicap.

We really are tired of your complaints since we now know from you that you are incapable of any "normal" behavior.

As is said, don't go away mad, just go away, please.

[Uke Boy]

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]

I am always angry when all girls ask my citinzenship and all of them answer "no sex" or "all with condom here": but I see clearly a deepthroat from outside throught the window!


Colon,

You are truly one sick puppy.

First, since you asked LS to explain, please do tell us the exact names of the places where you went in and observed a massage with a deep throat BJ? These are places I never want to enter. In my time here, I have never been to such a place and never want to be. I am not in the business of being a vouyer as you are. Now if you are watching from the street into an open window, I hope someone arrests you and takes you away for a long time.

At least now we have an idea of what your real problem is with women. You are one angry client (self-confessed) and of course that attitude the girl can see and understand. No wonder you can't get anywhere, your attitude is a huge handicap.

We really are tired of your complaints since we now know from you that you are incapable of any "normal" behavior.

As is said, don't go away mad, just go away, please.

[Horn Dog]

Dnepropetrovsk was a bust, so here I was hoping that Kiev would be better. Moved into an apartment near Khreschatyk st that I found on http://www.kievapts.com with the help of the hot and friendly Natalia, tall, skinny blonde. Got had a couple of grifters at the metro station. Guy in front of me drops a wad of cash, so I pick it up and return it to him. Another guy comes along claiming to be a plain clothes cop, pulls out his ID, to my non-Russian alphabet reading eyes that's what it looked like anyway. Asks what's the problem. First guy says that he dropped his money and that I had just returned it. Says he signed every bill and takes out his ID to show his signature mathched the ones on the bills. Now he claims that he's missing some bills. Cop asks for my passport and to show my cash. Dumbo! Should have known that con by about now but I wasn't thinking then and my Russian speaking buddy was at the Double Coffee shop watching the chicks on Khreschatyk. Anyway, I was staying at the Tiso apartments last night, way out in BFE, and decided to check out Luda from http://www.kievprivat.com/ since I had a good experience with them on the last trip. She showed up right on the dot. A little blonde, who seem to cover everything on the money which I confirmed with the operator. We had some coffee a little chit chat, she showered and boy, this girl is wild. Anal is extra it seems but no problem with me having my thumb in it while we were doing doggy. Everything covered. DFK. We took a break and a smoke and went at it again. Her operator called her to ask if I wanted a second hour, which I declined but she stayed on for about another 45 minutes talking. She's never seen her pictures on the website. She was even wearing the same lingerie! Same story as most girls here, single mom, divorced. She expects another couple of months before she has enough money and call it quits. Wouldn't mind seeing her again, but I got another date set up tonight with a girl from flirt.com. Ua which I'm bringing my Russian speaking friend with.

To be continued.

[Qjump]

It has happened something strange with my previous post. I report it again, I hope in the right way:

I want to go in and, like all men, to get an erotic massage with a deepthroat-swallow-blowjob ending.

I am always angry when all girls ask my citinzenship and all of them answer "no sex" or "all with condom here": but I see clearly a deepthroat from outside throught the window!

And the same situation in stripclubs, I see sex but girls always "no, no, no" with no matter about money!

Therefore, please LifeSavour, explain how to get swallow blowjobs in massage salons and stripclubs.

I will explain to you its all about attitude, and yours stinks............. I am not the only one who keeps telling you

[AColonizer]

It has happened something strange with my previous post. I report it again, I hope in the right way:

I want to go in and, like all men, to get an erotic massage with a deepthroat-swallow-blowjob ending.

I am always angry when all girls ask my citinzenship and all of them answer "no sex" or "all with condom here": but I see clearly a deepthroat from outside throught the window!

And the same situation in stripclubs, I see sex but girls always "no, no, no" with no matter about money!

Therefore, please LifeSavour, explain how to get swallow blowjobs in massage salons and stripclubs.

All saunas in UKR are uni-sex. Actually they are FOR sex.

90% of the bookings are guys fucking 'strange'!

There are many. I have some contacts for saunas in the 'burbs' that are cheap, you get the whole place, you can sit and eat / drink/ there is a fuck room, cold, hot pool, dry sauna, massage table.

WHAT you want?

[BionicMan]

Acolonizer

When you speak of the best sex is free I kind of agree and disagree. I think most of us would agree that the best sex we’ve ever had has been with girlfriends or wives. I’ve had both a wife and girlfriends. Currently I’ve got a girlfriend. Curiously about a year ago I calculated what it cost me to have a girlfriend. I came up with a least $20,000.00 a year. If I use that cost as if it were for sex I came up with a cost of $220.00 per pop. If figured 52 weeks less a week per month (12 weeks) to allow for her period and 10 more weeks for my being gone out of town. It gives a total of 30 weeks times the approx.3 times a week we have sex makes it about 90 times a year we have sex. $20,000.00 divided by 90 gives me a cost of a little more then $220.00 per pop. If we apply that same formula to a wife I don’t even want to know. I know we have wives and girlfriend for more then just sex. But lets face it the sex part is not total free.

On another matter I have been to Italy, your country several times. I agree with you it is a beautiful country and with a very rich and almost unbilviable history. I also find it to be a very romantic country. And consequently I’ve always taken a girlfriend with me. I’ve always said if you want to fall in love take a girl to the Amalfi Coast. What does surprise me is the cost of P4P. I found Italy to be much more expensive than the US or most of other parts of Europe. Of course that has a lot to do with the exchange rate at the time. But even with out the exchange rate factor it has some cost that just are a lot higher. I wanted to buy an Armani suit. I check it out the Galleria in Dallas. The cost was $ $1500.00. At the Armani store in Rome the same suit was $1850.00. The cost of food at restaurants in Italy (both well know and the ones the local people go to) is much higher then in the US. So I am surprised that the P4P is so cheap. But you live there and would know.

You mention being able to have a girl all-night for $300.00 to $350.00 in the Ukraine. I sure would appreciate it, if you can give me a contact number for that.

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I agree on girl costs... )
I do not agree on the Armani suit.
The price in Dallas of 1500$could well be before state tax.
All retail prices in Italy do have to include the 20% VAT: 1850$ less VAT makes it 1541$. So you see the difference is not that much.
Do not worry, big corporates do not make internal competition.
I bought a Prada bag in HongKong for wife (tell me about the cost of wifes!) as out of stock in Italy and costed me 10% than in Milan....taking into account the different taxation it was then +20% at least
Food price in Italy can vary.
There are not much of the family restaurants chains as in US, where you can eat for 20/25$ (I do not refer to Bob Evans!).
But also a large variety of mid price. The matter of the fact is that in Europe today I cannot eat decently with less than 35/45€ without even indulging in wine.
Price-wise wine in italian restaurants is never reaching the level of US' (or then you have a superb exclusive wine, but then it'll be still cheapr than the same bottle in US)

[Piper1]

She was slim, i dont remember anything particular about her ass but its her boobies that take all the attention. Attitude is ok I guess, somewhere between mechanical and gfe. But again I am more used to the club environment or talking over internet.

Thanks for the feedback on Polina. Like you, I prefer picking up a girl after a chat and a few laughs at a club, rather than home-delivery.

As for internet dates, I've been trying that also. Because my Russian isn't very good, I'm focusing on English-speaking girls on myspace and facebook - most of whom are not naughty. I'm offering girls around Ukraine and the UK "my generosity, support, fun company and all-expenses-paid travel, accommodation and shopping in London and Kiev" ("shopping" always gets them!). In return I'm asking for "nights out and nights in with an open-minded adventurous special girl". My proposition is pretty direct, because I don't want to waste time ''courting" (my one-week London/Kiev trip will be too short for courting).

So far the replies from girls in both Ukraine and the UK have ranged from "I'm not a w h o r e - I'm offended by your proposition!" to "Not for me, but good luck!" to "I'm interested, please tell me more!" Will see how it goes. Sometimes it works out well. I had a lot of fun using myspace with a 20 y.o cute French-Arab shy student who took the express train from Paris to stay with me in Amsterdam for a weekend (her mother kept calling to ask where she was), and a 28 y.o. Indian-Brit crazy nympho stunner (a lawyer) who took the Chunnel-train from London to stay with me in Paris for a long weekend. But I find it a lot of hard work entertaining a girl I just met for 24 hours a day. Sometimes it's just easier and just as much fun to take a good hooker for the night then let her go. Depends on my mood and how much spare time I have.

[Piper1]

Sveta/Sabina from Gia

[After many sessions of wild sex] her attitude turned around completely. ...
It seemed out that before coming she was drinking or taking drugs, the effect went off after four/five hours and It was a disaster.

Nice report IT. I think you're right about the drugs - she was probably on Coke or Ice - and that's probably why she wanted to go out at 2am and 'come back' at 5am - to get a re-charge of her drug of choice once she had your payment in her hand. Once the drug starts to wear off, addicts get agitated.

Same thing happened to me recently in Thailand - the girl just wouldn't stop fucking and sucking all night, like nothing I've seen before - wild wild wild - then after some hours she got agitated. I let her go at 6am because she had exhausted me and wouldn't sleep, but she came back to my hotel by surprise at 8am for two more rounds. She had earlier offered to get some Ice for us to "smoke and get very horny" but I refused. In retrospect I realized she used her payment to go out and buy some Ice, then returned for more sex. I was in a sleepy daze and caught by surprise when she returned at 8am knocking on my door loudly, so I let her in, thinking she just needed somewhere to sleep. Boy was I wrong - she fucked twice more like a banshee, then wanted even more sex! I had to plead with her to let me sleep. I got a few hours broken sleep while she watched TV to 1:00pm.

The next few days in Thailand she stalked and harrassed me until I set her straight, but that's another story (see Thailand/Pattaya thread if interested).

[It Travel]

Good advice Joe. I'll probably call the day before, although I prefer spontaneous arrangements. Yes, Polina's profile says CBJ, but therein lies the challenge to get BBBJ. Also her English is good. Zoya is more expensive, and speaks little English, but stunning. Decisions decisions. Maybe I should take IT Travel's recommendation and try the voluptuous Sabina - she looks like a chubby wild one.

Sabina (former name Sveta) is not bat at all... 175 or so 75 kg DDD cups huge nipples soft body, very energetic, huge clito! And when i nailed her she still got wet... and she seems a w h o r e more the a w h o r e and some time I like this! She arrived with a very short white fur and a striped military sweter... very open with a super push up bra (with DDD tits you can imagine)... the babuska in the entrance looked at this 190 cm tall (huge heels) f*king animal... protesting somehow I remember that next evening I nailed MT the opposite... 45 kg and A cups you need to change! I was afraid to hurt her...

BBBJ CIM COF cum on tits are no problem at all, but sometimes she is a little strange, (GFE not good) so keep her with some drinks (not juice) take a Cialis and take her for 10 hours (maximum), perfect would be from 14.00 to 24.00 So she do not ask you to go to dance! But if you are not prepaired to go to dinner with a real W h o r e looking girl take some food home!

She is exactly what I call a heavy duty sex machine I do not remember now but I surely cummed 6 or 7 times (thanks Cialis!)... of course the favourte would be cow girl looking at those huge things, she really fucks you! And the a proper BBBJ-tit fuck with final glazing... or CIM if you prefer.

She allowed me to picture only her clito foreskin and the pussy ! of course the Gia pics are photoshopped, but... always a good backup but call well before 23.30!

IT

PS here you can read the original report and even look at pussy pics! the price was 400 USD for 12 hours now its 450 for 10... but I was doing wrong taking her for the night (i like real drilling in the morning!) but she is a girl to send home at midnight 1 am... And I'm sure you will sleep very well...
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2298

[AColonizer]

I want to go in and, like all men, to get an erotic massage with a deepthroat-swallow-blowjob ending.

I am always angry when all girls ask my citinzenship and all of them answer "no sex" or "all with condom here": but I see clearly a deepthroat from outside throught the window!

And the same situation in stripclubs, I see sex but girls always "no, no, no" with no matter about money!

90% of the bookings are guys fucking 'strange'!

There are many. I have some contacts for saunas in the 'burbs' that are cheap, you get the whole place, you can sit and eat / drink/ there is a fuck room, cold, hot pool, dry sauna, massage table.

WHAT you want?[/QUOTE]

[JesseJames]

Day 1 visited River Palace, outstanding selection of tallent, perhaps 200 ladies. Spoke to several early in the evening they were asking $300, by 3:00am selected Krisna, about 30 yrs old, blond, excellent body, her rate was $100 per the hour, she stayed the whole hour. Her services were cbj, positione, etc, great attitude, did not want her photo taken.
Was at Premier Palace, no problem at all bringing her back.

Day two went to the Atrium City, good place to be a girl watcher, but I did not see any available tallent. Went to the kieve escorts site, found Vika, called there was a lady who spoke good English, an hour later Vika arrived, fee 600 Ukraine Dollars, everything was on the menue, she did cbj, positions, MSOG, 69, etc. She is 22 yrs old 5' tall, 95 lbs, 32B 24 32, great skin, freindly, little english, but vocal.

I'm thinking abut making a stop over in Kiev for a couple of days, but it seems expensive for playing around after seeing the castles and stuff. Are there any cheap thrlls around? SW,free lance something like that for 40-50 Eu. I just can't see paying almost NYC prices in a place without an economy. Not to mention my economy.

[Jaggerbowski]

I had Polina last summer, in late July.

She was nice, and hot, and after I made her blow a gasket (note: continuous), she turned into a fuckin' animal.

Only downside was 4 semi-shit pics, but those breasts were beyond spectacular.

I've got her arranged for a return engagement later.

Dr. J.

[Royal21]

I just finished booking my flights - still looking for a good apartment online as we speak. Please tell us more about Polina - eg how was her attitude? No need for PM - post it on the forum - sharing is caring.

I'm still debating whether to book Polina or the smokin' hot Zoya for a few hours. Apparently Polina's English is okay, but Zoya's is not. Then again, some of my best sessions have been with girls who don't speak English. In fact my best session recently was with a deaf-mute girl in Bangkok a few weeks ago who didn't speak at all - she just made noises like "Ohh! Haw! Ohhh! Haw!" while we fucked heartily. Great fun.

I tried her last december waiting for the rain to stop before I ventured out. I am ok with snow but do not like rain. This was my first experience with a delivery service. I usually like sampling the variety for a chemistry before I make my pick.
The apartment I was in, only had a local land phone and apparently most of the other online places have cell phone numbers. GIA's website has a call back feature which I used and they were prompt in calling back. Pollina was available and came over in half an hour or so. I had agreed on one hour (as opposed to my preference for all nighters).
She was slim, i dont remember anything particular about her ass but its her boobies that take all the attention. Attitude is ok I guess, somewhere between mechanical and gfe. But again I am more used to the club environment or talking over internet. She almost made me cum with a bj, while I was playing with her boobies. One thing that I remember vividly is me sucking her nipples and she started nudging my cock with her knee (i was lying down on the bed). That was very cool.