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  1. #20678
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    If you can't find places to buy the Insurance then there is local groups for expat on FB where lawyers can give some contacts, they will not be expensive still.
    Lawyers? Not expensive?

    What alternate universe do you live in?

    How about giving actual links to FB sites where people can look for the actual policies and contacts if you know all that?

  2. #20677
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    So are these labs, Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, in Kiev?

    Can anybody answer: when you undergo 14-day observation, is it supposed to take place in Kiev? Can it be at another city?

    When I come back to Ukraine, I'm just wondering if it's OK to quarantine myself at my apartment in my city 2 hours outside of Kiev.
    Synevo is nationwide. You just need to search their site for the location nearest to you. For me, they are the most convenient and also the most reliable.

    Dila and Eurolab are in Kiev and as I am here, I am, of course, inclined to name those that I know and where the overwhelming majority of those who come to Ukraine will stay.

    There are probably other such testing centers in other cities but those will be better known to those who visit Dnepr, Lviv and others or you can do an online search of local testing facilitates.

    BTW, all these testing companies also test for herpes, STDs, HIV and a great many other essential tests at a reasonable price and with European quality.

  3. #20676
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    So are these labs, Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, in Kiev?

    Can anybody answer: when you undergo 14-day observation, is it supposed to take place in Kiev? Can it be at another city?

    When I come back to Ukraine, I'm just wondering if it's ok to quarantine myself at my apartment in my city 2 hours outside of Kiev.
    You can go to wherever you want to do the isolation if you need these 14 days.

    You just need to say it airport and the App on your phone you will first choce location when you arrive at final destination.

  4. #20675
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Kozerog's post of 6-26-20 had an important link to a news item about mandatory health insurance. For those who might have missed it, here it is in full:

    "Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers has cancelled mandatory self-isolation or observation for foreign citizens entering the territory of Ukraine if they have a negative result of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing for COVID-19 conducted after crossing the state border. The Cabinet approved the change in the entry rules for foreigners on June 25, according to the State Agency for Tourism Development of Ukraine.

    The government also gave details about requirements for insurance policies of foreigners and stateless persons crossing Ukraine's state border. A policy must be issued by an insurance company that is registered in Ukraine, or a foreign insurance company that has a representative office in Ukraine or a contractual relationship with an insurance partner (a healthcare management organization) in Ukraine. The policy must cover the costs associated with the treatment of COVID-19, observation and the entire duration of stay in Ukraine. As was reported earlier, citizens who come to Ukraine from the "red-zone" countries (the worst COVID-19-affected regions) must undergo 14-day observation or use the "Dii Vdoma" ("Act At Home") GPS tracking app. If a traveler arrives from the "green" zones (the least COVID-19-affected regions), he or she may cross the border without hindrance when an insurance policy is available. ".

    The PCR test can be conducted at any number of labs such as Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, etc. , and costs about $50.00.

    However, there is a catch to the above rules about health insurance you should also be careful to note when purchasing the policy. You have to show that the insurance covers the ENTIRE duration of your stay in Ukraine. That means you risk being denied entry if the return flight date is later than the expiration date of the insurance policy. The Border Guards are allowed to ask you for proof of a return flight and you must show them a valid return flight ticket. Buying a few extra days' insurance to cover yourself is cheaper than being denied entry.

    Worse yet, you somehow get through passport control with a policy shorter than your stay, your health insurance lapses while you are here and then you catch the virus. I would not suggest to anyone that they be brave enough, or stupid enough, to see what actually happens here to them if this becomes the case.
    If you can't find places to buy the Insurance then there is local groups for expat on FB where lawyers can give some contacts, they will not be expensive still.

  5. #20674
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Kozerog's post of 6-26-20 had an important link to a news item about mandatory health insurance. For those who might have missed it, here it is in full:

    "Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers has cancelled mandatory self-isolation or observation for foreign citizens entering the territory of Ukraine if they have a negative result of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing for COVID-19 conducted after crossing the state border. The Cabinet approved the change in the entry rules for foreigners on June 25, according to the State Agency for Tourism Development of Ukraine.

    The government also gave details about requirements for insurance policies of foreigners and stateless persons crossing Ukraine's state border. A policy must be issued by an insurance company that is registered in Ukraine, or a foreign insurance company that has a representative office in Ukraine or a contractual relationship with an insurance partner (a healthcare management organization) in Ukraine. The policy must cover the costs associated with the treatment of COVID-19, observation and the entire duration of stay in Ukraine. As was reported earlier, citizens who come to Ukraine from the "red-zone" countries (the worst COVID-19-affected regions) must undergo 14-day observation or use the "Dii Vdoma" ("Act At Home") GPS tracking app. If a traveler arrives from the "green" zones (the least COVID-19-affected regions), he or she may cross the border without hindrance when an insurance policy is available. ".

    The PCR test can be conducted at any number of labs such as Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, etc. , and costs about $50.00.

    However, there is a catch to the above rules about health insurance you should also be careful to note when purchasing the policy. You have to show that the insurance covers the ENTIRE duration of your stay in Ukraine. That means you risk being denied entry if the return flight date is later than the expiration date of the insurance policy. The Border Guards are allowed to ask you for proof of a return flight and you must show them a valid return flight ticket. Buying a few extra days' insurance to cover yourself is cheaper than being denied entry.

    Worse yet, you somehow get through passport control with a policy shorter than your stay, your health insurance lapses while you are here and then you catch the virus. I would not suggest to anyone that they be brave enough, or stupid enough, to see what actually happens here to them if this becomes the case.
    So are these labs, Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, in Kiev?

    Can anybody answer: when you undergo 14-day observation, is it supposed to take place in Kiev? Can it be at another city?

    When I come back to Ukraine, I'm just wondering if it's ok to quarantine myself at my apartment in my city 2 hours outside of Kiev.

  6. #20673
    Kozerog's post of 6-26-20 had an important link to a news item about mandatory health insurance. For those who might have missed it, here it is in full:

    "Ukraine's Cabinet of Ministers has cancelled mandatory self-isolation or observation for foreign citizens entering the territory of Ukraine if they have a negative result of polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing for COVID-19 conducted after crossing the state border. The Cabinet approved the change in the entry rules for foreigners on June 25, according to the State Agency for Tourism Development of Ukraine.

    The government also gave details about requirements for insurance policies of foreigners and stateless persons crossing Ukraine's state border. A policy must be issued by an insurance company that is registered in Ukraine, or a foreign insurance company that has a representative office in Ukraine or a contractual relationship with an insurance partner (a healthcare management organization) in Ukraine. The policy must cover the costs associated with the treatment of COVID-19, observation and the entire duration of stay in Ukraine. As was reported earlier, citizens who come to Ukraine from the "red-zone" countries (the worst COVID-19-affected regions) must undergo 14-day observation or use the "Dii Vdoma" ("Act At Home") GPS tracking app. If a traveler arrives from the "green" zones (the least COVID-19-affected regions), he or she may cross the border without hindrance when an insurance policy is available. ".

    The PCR test can be conducted at any number of labs such as Synevo, Dila, Eurolab, etc. , and costs about $50.00.

    However, there is a catch to the above rules about health insurance you should also be careful to note when purchasing the policy. You have to show that the insurance covers the ENTIRE duration of your stay in Ukraine. That means you risk being denied entry if the return flight date is later than the expiration date of the insurance policy. The Border Guards are allowed to ask you for proof of a return flight and you must show them a valid return flight ticket. Buying a few extra days' insurance to cover yourself is cheaper than being denied entry.

    Worse yet, you somehow get through passport control with a policy shorter than your stay, your health insurance lapses while you are here and then you catch the virus. I would not suggest to anyone that they be brave enough, or stupid enough, to see what actually happens here to them if this becomes the case.

  7. #20672
    My plan was going Kiev for 1 or 2 months that summer (I estimate, from 10 July to 1 September aprox), a pity that strip clubs are closed, I love them (I suppose they are closed, don't?) but as I read, you still can have some fun with online girls, as I live in Spain, I guess I should do a covid test once in airport, I'm just a bit worried about a new increasing of covid cases, that makes borders be closed again, but is life, we just live once, life is permanent risk.

  8. #20671
    Quote Originally Posted by Hestendk  [View Original Post]
    If you come from Red Zone, you could take a test in Ukraine and then you would be free to go where you want if the result was Negative.

    Its an risk to take but its an option.

    I don't see why they should not let you in, but if the test shows Covid19 then you need isolate for 14 days.
    At least 14 days, the may put further restrictions on you or make you go home. They can do whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. My friends just tested Positive no symptoms, except for fatigue.

  9. #20670
    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle66  [View Original Post]
    My interpreter told me this morning that things should be good in August.
    I sense a potential conflict of interest here. Interpreter makes money providing service for you. Of course he wants the things being good in August. Does he work in health care?

    Virus doesn't care what interpreters, politicians, and oligarchs think. Even what I, the mere mortal member of this Forum, think while trying to extrapolate based on info available for the last few months. It is not deterministic.

    I do not want to be a number in statistics where everybody walks around without masks, and I am the one recovering in the best Kiev clinic. Yeah, those Ukrainian nurses are sure lovely, but I have other ideas about passing my time.

  10. #20669
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, with the easing of restrictions in Ukraine generally, and Kiev, specifically, cases of the virus are rapidly rising. I live here now and I know firsthand what is happening...
    ...I can't forecast what will happen in August but a 2 week quarantine for a 10 day trip is a bummer. It really is now a day-to-day evaluation of current circumstances but things do not point to anything getting better soon.
    This is the best explanation of the current situation. You are in Ukraine, not as a visitor, but living there. You have access to the media, but most importantly see what is going on in the streets firsthand with your own eyes, not through emails and online chats.

    It is one thing when Kozerog makes a decision on his own, and decides to go for 3-4 months. He has been to Kiev many times, and maybe the difference between Spain and Ukraine is not that huge at this point. I might have done the same.

    It is completely different case when the person flies in for 10 days, and never been to Ukraine before. I wouldn't go. I have been to Kiev at least 10 times. Stayed there for months at a time. As much as I love Kiev, I am not traveling to Ukraine any time soon. COVID situation is getting progressively worse. There is no way to predict even one month out.

  11. #20668
    Quote Originally Posted by GirlGirlGirl  [View Original Post]
    I am American and will be in France for most of the summer, I want to visit Kiev for one week at the end of August.

    Hence, I will be subject to the quarantine, coming from France, given its number don't improve.

    It sound like it's a "self-quarantine". I could see myself "quarantine" while having some "friends" visiting me and maybe running some "essential" errands at night here and there.

    However, I doubt they let me in the country if I'm a single traveller, first time in Ukraine, that state that will be in for a week.

    I surely know that could imagine what I am up to.

    I wonder if any non-business foreign visitor like me, subject to a quarantine that travelled recently to Ukraine with a target stay under 14 days was able to get through?
    If you come from Red Zone, you could take a test in Ukraine and then you would be free to go where you want if the result was Negative.

    Its an risk to take but its an option.

    I don't see why they should not let you in, but if the test shows Covid19 then you need isolate for 14 days.

  12. #20667
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, with the easing of restrictions in Ukraine generally, and Kiev, specifically, cases of the virus are rapidly rising. I live here now and I know firsthand what is happening. This is the latest from the Minister of Health: https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...vatat-stepanov In his words, the worst is perhaps yet to come unless some controls are put into place within the next two weeks since there may no longer be any additional hospital beds for Covid-19 patients. Another epidemiologist states today that the situation nationwide may soon get out of control https://www.obozrevatel.com/society/skoro-situatsiya-s-covid-19-v-ukraine-stanet-nekontroliruemoj-epidemiolog.htm

    Ukraine itself is now in the so-called Red Zone countries and no Ukrainians are allowed to enter the EU. The first holiday charter flight left Kiev yesterday but for Tirana Albania.

    In the buses, marshrutkas and trolleys, masks are required and almost always used with some some rare exceptions, as I noted today, mostly young people who refuse to wear masks, along with 98% of those who walk the streets. Masks are used in stores and markets. Restaurants in Kiev have opened inside with restrictions but those restrictions are often ignored, especially in the upscale places owned by the elite, especially the Rada parliamentarians from the ruling party. The mayor is threatening to impose restrictions once again but he is under the usual pressures from businesses and oligarchs to keep things open until the worst happens. Like in Texas and Florida. Generally, it is not looking good with Kiev achieving new record cases of the virus daily now. By the way, nightclubs and other entertainment venues are supposed to be closed or under tight control but inspection raids do occur with heavy fines for violations to the owners.

    If you do come make sure you do have the needed medical insurance policy since you may well need it, along with a possible 2 week self quarantine. I can't forecast what will happen in August but a 2 week quarantine for a 10 day trip is a bummer. It really is now a day-to-day evaluation of current circumstances but things do not point to anything getting better soon.
    Ukranians can enter EU already, on work permissions and in alot of other cases also.

    Ukrain is BTW. On the list that should open up on 1 Juli according to EU.

    Medical Insurance is needed but can be bought online.

    The 2 Week quarantine is only for red countrys, and if your coming from an red country you can get out of that with an Covid19 Test.

  13. #20666

    Self quarantine

    I am American and will be in France for most of the summer, I want to visit Kiev for one week at the end of August.

    Hence, I will be subject to the quarantine, coming from France, given its number don't improve.

    It sound like it's a "self-quarantine". I could see myself "quarantine" while having some "friends" visiting me and maybe running some "essential" errands at night here and there.

    However, I doubt they let me in the country if I'm a single traveller, first time in Ukraine, that state that will be in for a week.

    I surely know that could imagine what I am up to.

    I wonder if any non-business foreign visitor like me, subject to a quarantine that travelled recently to Ukraine with a target stay under 14 days was able to get through?

  14. #20665
    Quote Originally Posted by BCTravel  [View Original Post]
    I am supposed to come to Ukraine for 10 days in August as part of a European holiday from Canada. I have 1 week to cancel for a full refund and not sure what to do? So much mis-information and speculation. I have been excited for years to come to Ukraine and now not sure if I should still take a chance and come or wait till next summer instead. If anyone is in Kiev, what is it like? Are there major restrictions in place? Are people out and about enjoying life? Are nightclubs, bars, restaurants all open as normal? Thanks and hope everyone is staying healthy.
    Unfortunately, with the easing of restrictions in Ukraine generally, and Kiev, specifically, cases of the virus are rapidly rising. I live here now and I know firsthand what is happening. This is the latest from the Minister of Health: https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...vatat-stepanov In his words, the worst is perhaps yet to come unless some controls are put into place within the next two weeks since there may no longer be any additional hospital beds for Covid-19 patients. Another epidemiologist states today that the situation nationwide may soon get out of control https://www.obozrevatel.com/society/skoro-situatsiya-s-covid-19-v-ukraine-stanet-nekontroliruemoj-epidemiolog.htm

    Ukraine itself is now in the so-called Red Zone countries and no Ukrainians are allowed to enter the EU. The first holiday charter flight left Kiev yesterday but for Tirana Albania.

    In the buses, marshrutkas and trolleys, masks are required and almost always used with some some rare exceptions, as I noted today, mostly young people who refuse to wear masks, along with 98% of those who walk the streets. Masks are used in stores and markets. Restaurants in Kiev have opened inside with restrictions but those restrictions are often ignored, especially in the upscale places owned by the elite, especially the Rada parliamentarians from the ruling party. The mayor is threatening to impose restrictions once again but he is under the usual pressures from businesses and oligarchs to keep things open until the worst happens. Like in Texas and Florida. Generally, it is not looking good with Kiev achieving new record cases of the virus daily now. By the way, nightclubs and other entertainment venues are supposed to be closed or under tight control but inspection raids do occur with heavy fines for violations to the owners.

    If you do come make sure you do have the needed medical insurance policy since you may well need it, along with a possible 2 week self quarantine. I can't forecast what will happen in August but a 2 week quarantine for a 10 day trip is a bummer. It really is now a day-to-day evaluation of current circumstances but things do not point to anything getting better soon.

  15. #20664
    I'm hoping to go in August or September for two weeks. I have a girl in Lviv I'm going to see. She's a sweetheart. I also have an interpreter there from my last trip that I stay in contact with. I don't have my reservations yet and have been monitoring things for awhile. I do know there is no self isolation if you test negative. But I heard you need to buy a health insurance policy that is recognized in Ukraine. My interpreter told me this morning that things should be good in August. But if you are not sure, can you buy travel insurance just in case you need to cancel? Your trip did not include travel insurance? I am surprised you need to make a decision in the next week. But if you are not comfortable, cancel now and wait, then if things improve, make the plans again. Or wait until next summer.

    BTW, Kiev can be really hot in summer. I was there last May and it was very hot! Stay safe!

    Quote Originally Posted by BCTravel  [View Original Post]
    I am supposed to come to Ukraine for 10 days in August as part of a European holiday from Canada. I have 1 week to cancel for a full refund and not sure what to do? So much mis-information and speculation. I have been excited for years to come to Ukraine and now not sure if I should still take a chance and come or wait till next summer instead. If anyone is in Kiev, what is it like? Are there major restrictions in place? Are people out and about enjoying life? Are nightclubs, bars, restaurants all open as normal? Thanks and hope everyone is staying healthy.

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