Kyiv

[HessenStud]

It's not as easy as you think. I was only traveling in Lviv. I was advised not to go to Kyiv. Not because of the danger, but because of the many passport controls and still very limited options (compared to Lviv).

VPN is of course possible. But Mamba also records the geo data. With my phone card from Poland, I was always located in Poland. With VPN from the USA I was in America for my Mamba account. This could only be changed to Ukraine as the location in the paid account. VPN is therefore not enough. The girls in Ukraine, in addition to VPN, also need to set up a paid account. But probably only professionals will pay. No amateurs.

Mamba can also still be reached via other domains in Ukraine. Without a VPN. With identical database. But no longer via the Mamba main page. I hope, however, that this will not remain the case forever. Because many mamba girls are otherwise lost.

I sent several messages to some heart-breaking beautiful girls (Yulia 19, Kiss 21, 22 etc.) in Kyiv in the last 24 hours, although they didn't reply a word, but I can see they've read it. Like with WhatsApp, there are two blue ticks. Because they are so beautiful that I don't think they know VPN or Geo data stuff at all. I highly doubt that Mamba is completely forbidden in Kyiv. I hope someone in Kyiv can confirm my guess.

[PedroMorales]

It definitely sounds a whole better than being gang raped by Russian soldiers. Not to mention, having to be one of millions rushing to flea to the United States / British side before the arrival of the Russian Mongol army.

An American cigarette butt was likely better than a fresh Soviet crap cigarette.

Thanks for the link but not your comments. Full disclosure: I am the most anti cigarette poster on the site. It is a revolting addiction but an interesting one.

When the Soviet Union imploded, Big Tobacco bought up the Soviet tobacco firm to remove the competition; much the same happened with Cola companies, cola being all sugar and marketing. Hitler's Nazis actually invented Fanta (the Fantastic Cola Company), as sugar and Coca Cola, the former sponsor of the Hitler Youth, was no longer available.

Your idea that American, South African etc cigarettes are best is down to marketing "It's Toasted".

Good on that British OAP to go to Kiev (non Nazi spelling) to get his rocks off. Not sure how he would get on if disputes arise.

For anyone making a small fortune in such a corrupt and lawless country, begin with a big fortune. That way, you might have something left. Factor that in.

[Misterxxx]

Most of the young Ukrainian girls I know already use VPNs. They need it to access many Russian language websites.

It's not as easy as you think. I was only traveling in Lviv. I was advised not to go to Kyiv. Not because of the danger, but because of the many passport controls and still very limited options (compared to Lviv).

VPN is of course possible. But Mamba also records the geo data. With my phone card from Poland, I was always located in Poland. With VPN from the USA I was in America for my Mamba account. This could only be changed to Ukraine as the location in the paid account. VPN is therefore not enough. The girls in Ukraine, in addition to VPN, also need to set up a paid account. But probably only professionals will pay. No amateurs.

Mamba can also still be reached via other domains in Ukraine. Without a VPN. With identical database. But no longer via the Mamba main page. I hope, however, that this will not remain the case forever. Because many mamba girls are otherwise lost.

[YummyPL]

Ukrainian girls will not use VPN, then its the same.

Most of the young Ukrainian girls I know already use VPNs. They need it to access many Russian language websites.

[Nooky Ninja]

Think it is time to change thread name here to accepted international spelling. Kiev has some bad connotations. Maybe regulars can weigh in and ask Admin to do this.

[Jojosun]

Just read the first Report on everyday Life in Kyiv from a reporter on the ground there.

https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/k...a-b998810.html

"Postcard from Kyiv: tulips blooming, wine bars re-opening and people starting to return.

After months of misery, Ukraine's capital is discovering its 'new normal."

American Choppers Bar seems to be the Place to see and be seen at present.

"There is a trickle of tourists. At the train station this week I met Matthew Sample a 71-year-old English retiree from Hungerford who had just arrived on a train from Poland and was visiting Kyiv for fun.

"I guess I'm a war tourist" he told me with a laugh. "But I don't want to go anywhere where there are no good bars open. " Sounds like he's looking for more than a Stiff Drink!

The US Embassy is due to open end of the Month, The British Embassy is now open.

[Jmsuttr]

If that's true, it will be a disaster! With Tinder you cannot contact the others for free, you need a match, you know the chance if your look is not outstanding, right? Several years ago, the VK was also forbidden in Ukraine, it could be acceptable that now they want to do the same to Mamba.

I'm not a tech person, so the details are outside my wheelhouse, but from a business perspective it seems to me that there are some juicy opportunities for talented entrepreneurs. Full disclosure: I have no idea if Mamba is Russian-owned, so any reference to that site is based on what others have posted about it.

To continue: I don't know how many Russian websites that were formerly used widely in Ukraine are currently banned, but any which are will likely continue to be banned for a long time. Even after the war ends, the relationship between the two countries will be in the toilet, likely for decades. That means any good or service from Russia that was formerly popular in Ukraine will be ripe for replacement by a non-Russian alternative. Even if that new good or service is more expensive, or not as convenient, or even if it's a total clone, it will have a competitive advantage in the Ukrainian marketplace simply by virtue of the fact that it's not from Russia.

Also, I'm guessing Ukrainian authorities won't give two shits about any Russian IP, patent, or copyright protection. That means (IMO) someone in Ukraine could blatantly copy the code, design, and other elements of Russian software and sites and use them in Ukraine without having to worry. In fact, the same might prove true in other European countries that are pissed at Russia, like Poland and the Baltics.

And if the Russian company makes a fuss, and sends some kind of a "cease and desist" notice, so what? Give them a Snake Island "go fuck yourself" salute, or just say it's part of the reparations that are due. The only thing I'd pay attention to is if the govt of your home country (Ukr, Pol, etc.) raised some type of issue. Otherwise, I don't think anyone is going to lift a finger to protect the "rights" of Russian companies.

If I was younger, and more technically inclined, I might be tempted to dip a toe in such a pond. For those of you with the appropriate skillset and knowledge of the local market, this could be a gold mine. As always, do your own homework and proceed at your own risk. And, for anyone who does take the plunge, Good Luck!

[Ringudor]

A VPN will allow you to access mamba.

Ukrainian girls will not use VPN, then its the same.

[HulaHoops]

A VPN will allow you to access mamba.

[HessenStud]

I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.

If that's true, it will be a disaster! With Tinder you cannot contact the others for free, you need a match, you know the chance if your look is not outstanding, right? Several years ago, the VK was also forbidden in Ukraine, it could be acceptable that now they want to do the same to Mamba.

[Ringudor]

I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.

They will move to tinder.

I'm curious about situation there now, you feel safe? What city you are? How behave local people towards you? Women open to meet you?

[Misterxxx]

I'm back in Ukraine now. I don't know about it elsewhere, but Mamba (a Russian site anyway) is definitely blocked here. Via the local landline provider, via my Lifecell card, but also via the free internet in the restaurant. Of course you can try any tricks and get to the site. But this blocking will probably mean the end for Mamba in Ukraine. Less new girls and clients.

[Jojosun]

LOL "After World War Two, Germans used to line up outside cinemas to grab the cigarette butts from Allied soldiers who tossed them away".

45 Years later inThe Soviet Union, "Desperate Soviet smokers are resorting to extremes, puffing dried tea leaves and buying tobacco dust used as insecticide. And a new, stomach-turning trade has blossomed: Jars of used cigarette butts are on sale at peasant markets. Travelers returning from the Crimea say an eight-ounce glass of butts costs one ruble (about $1.60)."

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...195-story.html#text=The%20 Soviet%20 Union%20 has%2077,in%20 buses%2 C%20 elevators%20 and%20 restaurants.

[WyattEarp]

A Japanese banker gives an account of being in Germany after World War One, women having sex for pennies. After World War Two, Germans used to line up outside cinemas to grab the cigarette butts from Allied soldiers who tossed them away. Any idea where are the war brides the GIs got came from?

It definitely sounds a whole better than being gang raped by Russian soldiers. Not to mention, having to be one of millions rushing to flea to the United States / British side before the arrival of the Russian Mongol army.

An American cigarette butt was likely better than a fresh Soviet crap cigarette.

[Jmsuttr]

A Japanese banker gives an account of being in Germany after World War One, women having sex for pennies. After World War Two, Germans used to line up outside cinemas to grab the cigarette butts from Allied soldiers who tossed them away. Any idea where are the war brides the GIs got came from?

You'll be in your element in Western Ukraine.

As such, when the war comes to an end, places like Kyiv and Lviv should achieve relative normality pretty quickly. Obviously the areas brutalized by Russian troglodytes will recover more slowly, and the issue of returning refugees is a wild card that's hard to predict. But, wherever there's a lot of money circulating, sex workers are bound to flourish.

Russia, however, will be under sactions, reparations mandates (or both) for years or even decades. So the bleak post WW-I scenario you bring up is more likely to happen in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Except that the selection will probably be sparse, since any intelligent and attractive woman will do her best to leave a futureless country. But, for any monger who is able to get into Russia, it should be quite inexpensive. Forget money, as it'll probably have devolved into a barter economy. I'm guessing a roll of Western toilet paper will get you a roll in the hay.