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  1. #20618
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    All major airports are open again. Foreigners can return to Ukraine. But look at the list first.

    Green and Red = https://bit.ly/2YyT6pH.

    USA, GB, France, Italy, Canada are Red.

    Turkey, Germany and even Egypt are Green.

    Red means 14 days quarantine. Green means no quarantine.
    This chart is interesting. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    It charts "Active cases per 100,000. " Active case means all infection cases minus recovered (and mortal?) cases. The figure in the green column can be obtained by "active case / population x 100,000".

    There's not much difference between Sweden without lockdown and UK with lockdown.

  2. #20617
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    The major change is that if a citizen of a Red Zone country has spent at least 14 days prior to entering Ukraine in a Green Zone Country, and if he has documents to confirm this, then he is to be considered as coming from a Green Zone and is not subject to self-isolation.
    Jeez, I didn't know that the Ukrainians were so clever!

    They probably modeled this method after some other country's.

  3. #20616
    Quote Originally Posted by Kater100  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for sharing the information! For me (and I think for most of the others here):

    What about the bars, clubs, discos and restaurants?
    So far, all closed except for restaurants having outside terraces.

    Even the strip clubs are closed.

  4. #20615
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    All major airports are open again. Foreigners can return to Ukraine. But look at the list first.

    Green and Red = https://bit.ly/2YyT6pH.

    USA, GB, France, Italy, Canada are Red.

    Turkey, Germany and even Egypt are Green.

    Red means 14 days quarantine. Green means no quarantine.
    Yes, but. There still is a big change in how they look at citizens of Red Zone Countries. The link is here: https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...n-krasnoi-zony.

    The major change is that if a citizen of a Red Zone country has spent at least 14 days prior to entering Ukraine in a Green Zone Country, and if he has documents to confirm this, then he is to be considered as coming from a Green Zone and is not subject to self-isolation. In all other ways, a Red Zone citizen is to self-isolate.

    And do not forget that all important health insurance policy you must also show, and this applies to EVERYONE, Red Zone, Green Zone, no matter.

    Spain, the Netherlands, Moldova, Belarus, Belgium, Russia and Portugal are also red Zone countries.

    Due to the changes in outbreaks in various countries,. This list is also subject to change so anyone travelling here should check the latest update from the Ministry of Health before they travel or else there may be unpleasant surprises.

  5. #20614

    What about the bars, clubs, discos and restaurants?

    Thanks for sharing the information! For me (and I think for most of the others here):

    What about the bars, clubs, discos and restaurants?

  6. #20613
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Read the Ministry of Health advisory. The translation is as follow:

    Mandatory observation is only for those persons crossing the border and coming from countries or are citizens (or subjects) of countries with a high prevalence of COVID-19;.

    As I read it, if you are coming from a country designated a Red Zone nation and are also a citizen of that country you will be subject to automatic mandatory self-isolation or observation. The same applies to anyone who has come from a Red Zone country but is not a citizen of that country. This will apply to Ukrainians returning home, as well.

    This is Ukraine and this all makes no sense here anyway. This will definitely create a nightmare at Borispol arrivals. And do not forget the mandatory insurance issue that will also create additional headaches and delays. The Border Guards will have a huge say in the matter and passport control will be a real horror.
    All major airports are open again. Foreigners can return to Ukraine. But look at the list first.

    Green and Red = https://bit.ly/2YyT6pH.

    USA, GB, France, Italy, Canada are Red.

    Turkey, Germany and even Egypt are Green.

    Red means 14 days quarantine. Green means no quarantine.

  7. #20612
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    I usually live peacefully in a city one-two hours outside Kiev, but I often went through Kiev when I went in and out of Ukraine before corona.

    One of the girls in Kiev used to come out to my city for 3000 UAH overnight, but another girl previously asked for additional 3000 UAH for her to come out to my city, so I had never invited this girl before.

    But she contacted me recently and agreed to come out without any addition, so she was here a few nights ago.

    I guess, just like many of us, she had to expand her horizon to survive in this era.
    Aside from pandemic events, and the usual once a month rent is due, there is an additional factor currently affecting Ukrainian ladies mindset, especially of those educated slightly better than average.

    Many are going through their University finals right now, and already seek accommodations for the summer and beyond immediately after graduation.

    There are 2 major destinations: Odessa and Kiev. Both require funds. Recent graduates have no jobs. Good jobs were scarce before, now unemployment is much higher than usual.

    Sugar babies are ripe for harvesting by the lucky gentlemen who happen to reside in Ukraine at the moment.

  8. #20611

    Why do these girls change their number frequentyly?

    I was in Kiew in winter and met 2 girls via Mamba that both are friends. They offered a fantastic 3 some and I would dearly like to go back again.

    To have some more good time. Before I met them they've changed their Mamba profile and 2-3 months later they have changed their number.

    Logged back on to Mamba, but I can't find their profile. But I would dearly like to get to know why this is?

  9. #20610

    Has Mamba changed?

    Lads, I dunno what happened, but on Mamba, it seems they have changed the profiles, yeah? Because "looking for a sponsor" is gone?

    I still see my "go-to" girls up there, only advertising in the tags what they're looking for. I mean to hit them via PM up is still an option, but.

    It made things easier back then. Any idea why this is?

  10. #20609
    Quote Originally Posted by Kozerog  [View Original Post]
    Nothing in Korrespondent article said red / green zone based on passport. And it makes absolutely no sense, since many people are residents of countries other than passport country. More likely, they will examine your passport stamps and flight info to see where you spent last 14 days. If an American flew from New York then made connections in London and Munich before arriving in Kyiv, then logically they should check if any of USA, United Kingdom, Germany are red zone.
    Read the Ministry of Health advisory. The translation is as follow:

    Mandatory observation is only for those persons crossing the border and coming from countries or are citizens (or subjects) of countries with a high prevalence of COVID-19;.

    As I read it, if you are coming from a country designated a Red Zone nation and are also a citizen of that country you will be subject to automatic mandatory self-isolation or observation. The same applies to anyone who has come from a Red Zone country but is not a citizen of that country. This will apply to Ukrainians returning home, as well.

    This is Ukraine and this all makes no sense here anyway. This will definitely create a nightmare at Borispol arrivals. And do not forget the mandatory insurance issue that will also create additional headaches and delays. The Border Guards will have a huge say in the matter and passport control will be a real horror.

  11. #20608
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...ny-na-dve-zony.

    ... Those from Green Zone countries are free to leave the airport and need not self-isolate. It does not matter where a Red or Green Zone traveler is coming from, it will be based on their passport.
    Nothing in Korrespondent article said red / green zone based on passport. And it makes absolutely no sense, since many people are residents of countries other than passport country. More likely, they will examine your passport stamps and flight info to see where you spent last 14 days. If an American flew from New York then made connections in London and Munich before arriving in Kyiv, then logically they should check if any of USA, United Kingdom, Germany are red zone.

  12. #20607
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    This is interesting, and ridiculous in my opinion.

    In Greece, where infection is scarce, I read that they will base their decision on where a visitor comes from, regardless of his nationality.

    Ukraine may be placed in the list of countries, from which people are eligible to enter Greece after July 1. Though an American, I would be able to enter Greece, as I'm coming from Kiev. I thought I'd spend the next 3 months in Greece and come back to Ukraine in October. If the policy is still in effect in October, I will have to self-isolate for 2 weeks when I come back.

    They should base their decision on where a visitor spent in the previous 2 weeks.
    I decided to go to the Ministry of Health site and try to get further clarification Here's the link https://moz.gov.ua/article/reform-pl...aksim-stepanov.

    First thing that stands out is that you will definitely need a health insurance policy that is acceptable in Ukraine in case you do become ill with the virus (or any other illness which requires hospitalization). What that policy covers and who the issuers are is not spelled out so it is very much of a gamble for anyone who arrives. The Border Guards have a great deal of leeway in their decisions and they could send you back on the next flight.

    The site also clearly states that if you are a citizen of a Red Zone country or if you are coming from a Red Zone country, you will be required to self-isolate (if you have the required health insurance policy or else you may be sent back).

    Guaranteed chaos especially for those foreigners who arrive early after the international airlines resume their Ukraine flights.

  13. #20606
    Quote Originally Posted by UkeBoy  [View Original Post]
    Here is the very latest update from the Minister of Health, as of this morning. https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...ny-na-dve-zony.

    In short, all arriving passengers will be placed into two categories, a red zone and a green zone. The Red Zone is based on those countries whose epidemiological situation is worse than Ukraine, the Green Zone, naturally, is where the virus situation is less severe than in Ukraine. Those from Red Zone countries will be forced to self-isolate for two weeks or they might be placed under observation. Those from Green Zone countries are free to leave the airport and need not self-isolate. It does not matter where a Red or Green Zone traveler is coming from, it will be based on their passport. For example, if the USA is placed in the Red Zone and an American is coming from New Zealand, where the virus supposedly has been eradicated, then the American will have to self-isolate.
    This is interesting, and ridiculous in my opinion.

    In Greece, where infection is scarce, I read that they will base their decision on where a visitor comes from, regardless of his nationality.

    Ukraine may be placed in the list of countries, from which people are eligible to enter Greece after July 1. Though an American, I would be able to enter Greece, as I'm coming from Kiev. I thought I'd spend the next 3 months in Greece and come back to Ukraine in October. If the policy is still in effect in October, I will have to self-isolate for 2 weeks when I come back.

    They should base their decision on where a visitor spent in the previous 2 weeks.

  14. #20605
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Would be interesting to see the list of countries that are considered low and separately high risk.

    Low risk must be PRC, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Australia.

    High risk, logically speaking every country in North and South America. Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sweden.

    Perhaps Ukrainian government has its own ideas, as it needs money, and there were talks about not requiring visas for citizen of China and India.

    Another report stated the requirement of having the health insurance covering COVID treatment. It should be provided upon arrival. I suspect there might be a way to buy such an insurance at the airport.
    Here is the very latest update from the Minister of Health, as of this morning. https://korrespondent.net/ukraine/42...ny-na-dve-zony.

    In short, all arriving passengers will be placed into two categories, a red zone and a green zone. The Red Zone is based on those countries whose epidemiological situation is worse than Ukraine, the Green Zone, naturally, is where the virus situation is less severe than in Ukraine. Those from Red Zone countries will be forced to self-isolate for two weeks or they might be placed under observation. Those from Green Zone countries are free to leave the airport and need not self-isolate. It does not matter where a Red or Green Zone traveler is coming from, it will be based on their passport. For example, if the USA is placed in the Red Zone and an American is coming from New Zealand, where the virus supposedly has been eradicated, then the American will have to self-isolate.

    Also, all arrivals must show a health insurance policy that will cover them in case they are hospitalized for any reason whatsoever in Ukraine. So far no word if such policies will be available upon arrival but assume for the moment that they are not until there is further word on the issue.

    The health insurance policy was a requirement and you had to buy these policies upon arrival years ago when the visa system was still in effect. Corporate and government greed may win out and there may be tables to buy policies before you go to passport control, if they suddenly decide institute this procedure. That would mean at least two long lines before you get your luggage and who knows what else they will think up to make matters worse.

    Red and Green country lists will be issued soon. And as always with Ukraine, all of this is subject to change without notice. And how they will enforce the self-isolation or observation has also not been defined. More to come.

  15. #20604
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    Entry into Ukraine is possible again from Monday. Even for foreigners.

    However, some citizens must be quarantined for two weeks. The exact list of non-quarantined states will be announced soon.

    Have a look at:

    https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/r...06/12/7111049/
    Would be interesting to see the list of countries that are considered low and separately high risk.

    Low risk must be PRC, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Australia.

    High risk, logically speaking every country in North and South America. Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Iran, Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sweden.

    Perhaps Ukrainian government has its own ideas, as it needs money, and there were talks about not requiring visas for citizen of China and India.

    Another report stated the requirement of having the health insurance covering COVID treatment. It should be provided upon arrival. I suspect there might be a way to buy such an insurance at the airport.

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