Kyiv

[Lego Maniac]

I have not been to Kiev in 2 years but will be there for the last 2 weeks in May. I was hoping that someone would be kind enough to help me with the current pricing is for girls at RP. Any info on what the going rate is for a girl for the night will be greatly appreciated. I also have been reading the board and have not seen any information on any other good clubs to find beautiful working girls. Is there anywhere new worth mentioning?

[Cruiser D]

How do you stop someone at random on the street and ask someone where a flat is that you don't know the number to? Do you say, hey, I was at this apartment near here some time last week. Can you tell me where it is?

You had the number of the apartment owner? But not the mobile phone number of the girl?

I've been out with Ukrainians and Russians in Kiev and have yet to experience a 'local preference' at salons and strip clubs.

Does the Sun rise in the west and set in the east when you are in Kiev too?

[Hecker]

Yes Acolonizer. Because if you make all your contacts known, foreigners will spoil them. Basically the foreigners make a mistake slavic men do not do. They pay the girl before. Girls used to provide first and then get paid, for example you had sex with them and then they asked for presents, now they have learned that foreigners pay hoping and so can play game not providing since the payment is given beforehand. It was different. You will never experience the old good time. The basic is never get frightened. Think you are Acolonizer and your dick exceeds from Italy to Kiev. So there is no problem. Your dick is your advantage. This is the right thought frame.

[AColonizer]

Yes that's true but it is hard to act as a Russian, first of all it is necessary to speak Russian well and to "assimilate" (does this word exist in English? ) their acting: when I see Slavic people talking among them, it seems to see actors in a movie, everything done by them is fake and is a part of a pretending game among them.

Sometimes, or often, here forumers misunderstand what I talk about. Therefore it is possible people don't understand what I am talking in next examples, this is a very important detail to understand how much different is Slavic mindset "mentalitet".

First example.

In November, I went to the street address of a prostitute but I didn't remember the number of her flat. So I asked to a person walking near there (of course, I didn't say she is a prostitute) and this person called the owner of that flat, Victor. Victor replied she ran away some months ago because he sent police to stop her business. Victor speaks Russian only and so he phoned her speaking-English daughter to translate to me. In last week, I met this prostitute again and again (I have a too good time with her and a very discounted price) and I discovered she is living at the same street address. You know, flat owners always know who is living in their flats. Therefore the situation is: Victor lied to me and her daughter, he doesn't want people and his family know he is connected in prostitution business and he acts as a tender father.

Second example.

In last week, I went to some massage salons and strip bars. Everybody, both foreigners and Ukrainians, said to me there is no sex inside those. I went out with some Ukrainians and they always repeated they don't know massage salons and stripbars with sex service. Instead I had sex in a massage salon and I saw blowjobs are usually provided in some strip bars to Ukrainians, to Ukrainans only, and for the same price of a private dance.

There is something important more to add here but I haven't time to report about that.

I am sorry for my English. Anyway the discover is one only: here forumers are discussing about crazy prices and River Palace and other sex services but the truth is that we are talking about a business built just for foreigners and these crazy prices, River palace etc. Are just stupids things for stupid foreigners and this forum is, often but not always, a big shop window of some businessmen. I am sure some mongers have good information about cheap sex in Kiev but there is no convenience to share them with the world.

At least Acolonizer you have discovered the advantages of slavic style.

[Cruiser D]

AC (and Hecker), you are just wasting your time (and money) avoid the sl uts and ho's who don't fit your needs or who you know are probably scammers. Very easy to do. That's the real Slavic style Hecker.

[Hecker]

I discovered prices rose up about 50% in entertainment services in last months: for example the mint rhino strip bar in February was 60 grivnas/entry, instead now this is 100 grivnas/entry, prostitutes in February was 60$/first hour, instead now they are 100$/first hour. Crazy prices, above all about prostitutes because they usually have anal sex (and swallow blowjobs) with their boyfriends but they don't give her ass for customers paying crazy prices.

Now scamming has definitely become the favourite sport in Kiev! I have some regular girls that in the past they were good girls. But now they have become scammers too. In my opinion, there are a lot of ways for scamming, the classical way is to have a dinner in an expensive restaurant and to pay for her taxi transfers.

I am studying a strategy to waste their money as much as they wasted my money. .

In general, any girl doesn't deserve a gentleman. We have to be gentlemen just to fuck them and to throw them away when we have bored about them, in the same slavic male style. Or better, I explain what I see with my own eyes: girls in Kiev are used to be easy fuckable with their slavic men, whatever is the slavic men's behaviour. Instead girls in Kiev are used to be scammers with foreigners. I heard some users here are successfull with freebies but I am sure they have a slavic style to manage girls in Kiev.

A lot of funny/sad things I saw here in Kiev, maybe I will report in future. I am always ready to reply to private messages that I received but I would like a real information exchange among us.

At least Acolonizer you have discovered the advantages of slavic style.

[Moliere]

I am also trying to follow your directions to get into Flirt.com. The trouble I have is which site are you guys talking about.

Thank you for your time.

There are three big databases for dating in the Ukraine. Each database appears under 2-12 different names and URL's. See this link to a previous post for a list.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...964#post677964

It's not Flirt.com, but Flirt.ru which has about 10 million screenames.

The other two big ones are dating.ru and loveplanet.ru

[Moliere]

When I registered it gave me a map. And I choose my place of residence as NY, USA. Is that the problem? Should I have said I was from Kiev?

Also, the site is the same that ITtravel always uses which is flirt.com. Ua.

I myself would put down Kiev if that's the city where you're going to be. It probably won't make a big difference because you will like only correspond with women you write to first. (No surprise: the 18-25 year olds will not be looking for you.) Eventually, they will ask "What brings you to the Ukraine? To Kiev? " so you might as well figure out what you're going to say.

[Smith Joe]

Dont use bable fish to trabslate the full page! thats the problem!
Have a friend who had same problem, as I said copy and paste certain parts into bable fish

Oh this is not a problem. What I did was translate on one tab the whole page. But to navigate I used the regular page without any translation but still knew what I was clicking due to the other tab I had open. I hope that made sense.

When I registered it gave me a map. And I choose my place of residence as NY, USA. Is that the problem? Should I have said I was from Kiev?

Also, the site is the same that ITtravel always uses which is flirt.com. Ua.

Thanks guys for your patience with me.

[AColonizer]

About a good service and a valued price, I suggest Ludmila/Yana phone number +[Telephone Number deleted by Admin]: she deserves a visit!

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[AColonizer]

I discovered prices rose up about 50% in entertainment services in last months: for example the mint rhino strip bar in February was 60 grivnas/entry, instead now this is 100 grivnas/entry, prostitutes in February was 60$/first hour, instead now they are 100$/first hour. Crazy prices, above all about prostitutes because they usually have anal sex (and swallow blowjobs) with their boyfriends but they don't give her ass for customers paying crazy prices.

Now scamming has definitely become the favourite sport in Kiev! I have some regular girls that in the past they were good girls. But now they have become scammers too. In my opinion, there are a lot of ways for scamming, the classical way is to have a dinner in an expensive restaurant and to pay for her taxi transfers.

I am studying a strategy to waste their money as much as they wasted my money. .

In general, any girl doesn't deserve a gentleman. We have to be gentlemen just to fuck them and to throw them away when we have bored about them, in the same slavic male style. Or better, I explain what I see with my own eyes: girls in Kiev are used to be easy fuckable with their slavic men, whatever is the slavic men's behaviour. Instead girls in Kiev are used to be scammers with foreigners. I heard some users here are successfull with freebies but I am sure they have a slavic style to manage girls in Kiev.

A lot of funny/sad things I saw here in Kiev, maybe I will report in future. I am always ready to reply to private messages that I received but I would like a real information exchange among us.

[Qjump]

Thanks I tried doing what you told me but failed miserably. lol.

I don't know what I am doing wrong. My popups are off and still no map shows up. Do I need to become a VIP member to make searches?

Sorry for my incompetence. lol.

Dont use bable fish to trabslate the full page! thats the problem!
Have a friend who had same problem, as I said copy and paste certain parts into bable fish

[Smith Joe]

I think your problem is with the pull down menu, not babelfish.

I think the web site recognizes your IP address as being in the USA and so gives you a choice of US cities. You need to get past this. At the very bottom of the pull-down menu you get "pick another city" vybrat drugoj gorod. You will get a pop-up screen with three cascading menus for country, oblast, city where you pick Ukraine, Kiev, Kiev (in Russian).

Note Ukraine, is second from the top of the country list, below Russia, not at the bottom of the country list in its alphabetical order.

If you have set your browser to prevent all pop-ups, you may never get past the first step.

Does this help?

Note correction: you are looking for "vybrat drugoj gorod" at the very bottom.

Thanks I tried doing what you told me but failed miserably. lol.

I don't know what I am doing wrong. My popups are off and still no map shows up. Do I need to become a VIP member to make searches?

Sorry for my incompetence. lol.

[Dallim93]

I am also trying to follow your directions to get into Flirt.com. The trouble I have is which site are you guys talking about. There is many sites that star with "Flirt". Are you speaking of flirt.com or flirt. Ru or flirt.com. Ru, or flirt&love.com? I registered on flirt. Ru where there is a pull down menu and you can find Ukraine and Kiev on the pull down menu. But then I don't know how to find the girls that are advertising to get "sponsorship", may be you can help many of us newbies and clarify this further.

Thank you for your time.

I think your problem is with the pull down menu, not babelfish.

I think the web site recognizes your IP address as being in the USA and so gives you a choice of US cities. You need to get past this. At the very bottom of the pull-down menu you get "pick another city" vybrat drugoj gorod. You will get a pop-up screen with three cascading menus for country, oblast, city where you pick Ukraine, Kiev, Kiev (in Russian).

Note Ukraine, is second from the top of the country list, below Russia, not at the bottom of the country list in its alphabetical order.

If you have set your browser to prevent all pop-ups, you may never get past the first step.

Does this help?

Note correction: you are looking for "vybrat drugoj gorod" at the very bottom.

[Folletto]

I'll be in Kiev until 5 May, if you want we can meet.

Send me a private message with your e-mail.

Hi there,

I will be travelling to Kiev from 30. April until 05. May. Any of you there and able to show me arround a bit and giving me a hand with the girls / ladies?

I dont speak russian, only english or german.

ATM. waiting for my account to get activated, so I think PMs are currently not possible.

Any help appreciated.