Kyiv

[Misterxxx]

It seems like the "looking for a sponsor" option is gone. I have tried to search with this is as a new tag and nothing comes up. I don't even see women I started chatting with who used to have "looking for a sponsor" and they don't show up in searches even though I have our messages and they are still on mamba and active.

Any ideas how to search for girls in this "new" mamba?

Yes changes. Now you can write your own tags for the search option.

There is only one problem. If you want to set tags with sponsor and sex topics, the system will try to set them in your language. Change the language to cyrillic and write the tags in cyrillic language. And you will find a lot of girls with sex and sponsor tags.

[Esatikkanen]

It seems like the "looking for a sponsor" option is gone. I have tried to search with this is as a new tag and nothing comes up. I don't even see women I started chatting with who used to have "looking for a sponsor" and they don't show up in searches even though I have our messages and they are still on mamba and active.

Any ideas how to search for girls in this "new" mamba?

[AntonySun1996]

Guys,

I think SA is great, I am using it a lot in the States, since I am not able to travel as much now. Making way more money, but no time to travel. Lets' be clear about something, $200 in Kiev is way too much. $150 should be max and that is probably too much for the quality of girls there now. You can read my other reports, at $200 you can go to other destinations, in Europe, Mexico, Europe, you can have real models, not the fake ones in Kiev that are a 6. Your money and time, but be smart.

I know $200 was too high for that particular girl, but that was my first SA date and the girl appeared very educated during the dinner date and I liked her, so I decided to be nice. She was good in bed, but her body was not exactly my type, and her halitosis was a huge turn-off.

She told me she used to have a sugar boyfriend in Europe and traveled there a lot to meet him. Her English was awesome, close to native level, which made me think she must have spent a lot of time in the States as well.

I get matches with really hot girls on Seeking from time to time when I set my location to Kiev or, in particular, Moscow. I haven't got the opportunity to verify what percent of these profiles was actually legit, though, but I surely will as long as I get my ass to Moscow. I will not meet new sugar girlfriend in Kiev though, as my current Kiev girlfriend would get upset if she finds out.

I planned to visit Kiev and Moscow this month, but had to postpone my trip due to the coronavirus situation. My city is currently semi-blocked. Heck, I would already be Kyiv now if the government didn't lie about the disease in the start. A modern day Chernobyl.

Will probably go there later this month is situation turns better. Now all I can do is sitting at home, jerking off, while trying to get as many contacts as possible from the site.

[Kozerog]

Here's my rule of thumb. Whatever she's worth as an hour of escort, that amount weekly.

Sp you're recommending like 2000 uah or $80 per week, presumably for one or two meetings per week, each lasting several hours. Thus will work, especially if it's 52 weeks/year. This is typical of what local married men in their 40's pay, guys who want a young mistress because they are bored with the wife. But it's not a high rate, so don't be surprised if the girl trades up. If you want to lock the girl down, go higher.

Also, if the girl detects that you can easily afford to pay much more (and she will suspect foreigners can pay more), she will be annoyed by your perceived cheapness. In the business world, fact that a client is rich does not mean I can double my usual rates. However, women have their own logic which is different from normal business logic. So if you want to keep costs down, don't flaunt your wealth.

The key is the consistency. Kinda like potty training a puppy, got to keep the treats coming.

Consistency is indeed very powerful, but it has to be demonstrated, not just promised. I would suggest a higher initial rate, and more frequent meetings initially, but warn her that amount will eventually be reduced to $80 because you have a limited budget. So like $160 or even $240/week initially, for 3 or more meetings. This is much more tempting than $80, in case she is hesitant. Once she is hooked, you can reduce to $80/week with less frequent meetings.

[AntonySun1996]

I've never been in to it.

How much do you invest in sponsoring?

How does it work?

There are generally two ways of sponsoring.

1. Pay per meet (PPM).

2. Monthly allowance.

PPM is more like calling an escort than sugaring. If you intend to meet your sugar baby / sugar girlfriend frequently, monthly allowances will reduce your costs. However, when you are seeing a new sugar baby, PPM would be recommended until you build a mutual trust.

[Riina]

How much do you invest in sponsoring?

Here's my rule of thumb. Whatever she's worth as an hour of escort, that amount weekly. The key is the consistency. Kinda like potty training a puppy, got to keep the treats coming.

[Arkiloko]

I've never been in to it.

How much do you invest in sponsoring?

How does it work?

[DramaFree11]

I did once meet a girl from Seeking.com in Kiev. Success at first attempt. She was reasonably attractive. Her appearance matched her photos, with small variances. We did a G&M in a restaurant, agreed upon a ppm of 200 usd, and went to a hotel room to have some fun. This didn't lead to a long term sugar relationship though, as I already had a girlfriend and I realized that I still preferred my own girl.

This experience however gave me the impression that there are fewer fake profiles on Seeking than on other sites like mamba. I could be wrong, of course, since my sample size was too small. Again, just my personal experience. Others have encountered fakes from that site. There are even pretentious women who expect you to pay them for spending time with you (without having sex). Just maintain your professional skepticism and be prepared for all sorts of situations. And don't get frustrated by unpleasant experiences. You have to kiss a thousand toads to find a princess. Finding a gem in Kiev requires p.

Guys,

I think SA is great, I am using it a lot in the States, since I am not able to travel as much now. Making way more money, but no time to travel. Lets' be clear about something, $200 in Kiev is way too much. $150 should be max and that is probably too much for the quality of girls there now. You can read my other reports, at $200 you can go to other destinations, in Europe, Mexico, Europe, you can have real models, not the fake ones in Kiev that are a 6. Your money and time, but be smart.

[PhotoSlider]

...I found here in North America once the sugar baby gets too comfortable with you, they get more greedy and expect more, and want you to solve all their problems especially when they realize I have much more money than them (its funny how women love to suck up money like a vacuum cleaner and spend, and never think of tomorrow)

If sugar babies were more savvy with their (our) money, they wouldn't need to milk us as frequently by providing access to their commodities. So, their spending habits are a blessing in disguise. Unless, of course, one of them becomes too demanding. Then one door gets open for exit, and few more are open for entrance.

plus I get bored of a woman after a few months anyways.

BUT The first 10 fucks can be epic.

Ditto!

Then time to dump and find another.

I like 2 to 4 sugar babies at a time.

Smart sugar babies keep the same ratio. Servicing a rolling carousel of 2 to 4 sponsors.

More than 4 becomes a scheduling challenge. The key is to keep the pool updated in a timely manner, troops moral high and manners proper.

[Riina]

I don't fuck professionals anymore.

There's a lot of reasons as to why guys can walk away from meeting pros. But in my case, I've completely addicted myself to open up the minds of Ukraine college cuties. Once you learn how to act and talk to them, I don't think it's possible to walk away.

[AntonySun1996]

I tried Tinder last evening. I got a lot of matches from really hot girls, but they all answer with one world in Russian. Not Ukraenian. Is looks like it's a company who manage all this (fake) girls?

Someone with positive experience with Tinder in Kiev lately?

Last year my Tinder was working fine. But not now.

One of the problems of mongering with tinder is the difficulty of differentiating between working girls and civilians. Sometimes when you think your match is just a hot civilian girl, it turns out that she is a working girl with fake photos. Sometimes the opposite is true, and the civilian feels insulted by your money offer.

[AntonySun1996]

What if I prefer kissing no less than an 8? And not a thousand, but only a few dozen per visit.

Rhetoric question. Toads shouldn't be squashed, simply not allowed to enter my premises.

That's why Meet & Greet (the platonic date with your potential sugar baby when you meet for the first time) is a common practice for sugar daddies. That way you could filter out many (but unfortunately not all) toads before you have to kiss her. You just have to pay for the dinner.

Where I come from, the presence of the seeking site incurred public anger over the "immorality" of sugar relationships, and the government threatened to block the site. Now I can get access to the site, but there is only 20-ish girl searchable in my region. The site seem to be quite popular in Kiev or Moscow though, with thousands of girls waiting for some sugar. I get a lot of messages on weekends. I don't have intention to meet new girls at the moment, but I still enjoy window shopping on the site sometimes.

[James 006]

I tried Tinder last evening. I got a lot of matches from really hot girls, but they all answer with one world in Russian. Not Ukraenian. Is looks like it's a company who manage all this (fake) girls?

Someone with positive experience with Tinder in Kiev lately?

Last year my Tinder was working fine. But not now.

I did once meet a girl from Seeking.com in Kiev. Success at first attempt. She was reasonably attractive. Her appearance matched her photos, with small variances. We did a G&M in a restaurant, agreed upon a ppm of 200 usd, and went to a hotel room to have some fun. This didn't lead to a long term sugar relationship though, as I already had a girlfriend and I realized that I still preferred my own girl.

This experience however gave me the impression that there are fewer fake profiles on Seeking than on other sites like mamba. I could be wrong, of course, since my sample size was too small. Again, just my personal experience. Others have encountered fakes from that site. There are even pretentious women who expect you to pay them for spending time with you (without having sex). Just maintain your professional skepticism and be prepared for all sorts of situations. And don't get frustrated by unpleasant experiences. You have to kiss a thousand toads to find a princess. Finding a gem in Kiev requires p.

[PhotoSlider]

You have to kiss a thousand toads to find a princess. Finding a gem in Kiev requires p.

What if I prefer kissing no less than an 8? And not a thousand, but only a few dozen per visit.

Rhetoric question. Toads shouldn't be squashed, simply not allowed to enter my premises.

[Riina]

I did once meet a girl from Seeking.com in Kiev. Success at first attempt. She was reasonably attractive. Her appearance matched her photos, with small variances. We did a G&M in a restaurant, agreed upon a ppm of 200 usd, and went to a hotel room to have some fun. This didn't lead to a long term sugar relationship though, as I already had a girlfriend and I realized that I still preferred my own girl.

This experience however gave me the impression that there are fewer fake profiles on Seeking than on other sites like mamba. I could be wrong, of course, since my sample size was too small. Again, just my personal experience. Others have encountered fakes from that site. There are even pretentious women who expect you to pay them for spending time with you (without having sex). Just maintain your professional skepticism and be prepared for all sorts of situations. And don't get frustrated by unpleasant experiences. You have to kiss a thousand toads to find a princess. Finding a gem in Kiev requires p.

SA can be a real goldmine for the 30 something that understands "help". If you're 50 and looking for a college girl, hit the streets.