Kyiv

[Nanto71]

I ask informations to Gia agency by mail, it's working, they replay me:

Dear Sir!
We are glad to invite you to visit Ukraine, Kiev.

Our girls are: ZOYA, TAMARA, LINA, MILA, KARINA, VLADISLAVA, RITA, DIANA, KSYUSHA,
DASHA, NIKA, SASHA, IRA, YANA:

1 hour- 70 $
2 hours- 100 $
3 hours- 130 $
4 hours- 160 $
10 hours- 200 $
24 hours- 350 $

* Oral without condom (TAMARA, RITA, DIANA, MILA, KSYUSHA, DASHA, SASHA, IRA, YANA)
* Anal +20 $ (RITA, DASHA, IRA, YANA)
* Lesbi + 20

$ (ZOYA, TAMARA, KARINA, LINA, RITA, VLADISLAVA, DIANA, MILA, KSYUSHA, SASHA, IRA, YANA)

* An apartment for meeting 20$ - 30$
* 1 $USD = 5,4 UAH

PHONE NUMBER +38044 491 66 42
+38039 491 66 42
ADDRESS WWW.GIA.COM.UA
E-MAIL [Email address deleted by Admin]

I hope this help

Bye

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[Rendorseg]

Tech Boy - damn it... I'll be there between 4-24 and 5-8 so looks like we'll miss each other... but, hey, do me a favor and post some info on Nikolaev...

When in Odessa last time things were pretty sparce... chicks in the strip clubs were stuck up and those around that entrance to the port, well, they were kind of skanky by my measure.... I think that Nikolaev is more promising... not so much mafia $, women have a better attitude I think fm our perspective, eh? [;-)

[Vegamars]

Once you're in Ukraine you can stay as long as you wish till your visa expires and you can travel anywhere you wish.
The best places to meet students are the cheaper cafe/bar/restaurants alongside Kreschatik and Padole.
For a little excitement in a different design and atmosphere either at night or around midnight you could try Dinos Bar on Kraschatik right across Dnipro Hotel.

[Tech Boy]

Rendorseg,

I will be in Odessa and Nikolaev too, I am going to Kiev on 24th in 2 days, and leaving Ukraine 22nd April.

I may still be around Odessa by the time you get there, if you want to hook up for a chat, email me:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

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[Rendorseg]

I'll be in Odessa and Nikolaev areas late April/early May.
If anyone will be around perhaps we can hook up.
Might stop by in Kiev also but I'll be really forcusing more on the south.

[Tech Boy]

Uke Boy,

I appreciate your info for Gia site but what is their phone number now? I called +38 067 393 27 27 but the line seems to be closed.

Their email doesn't accept my messeages.

I was looking a the airport transfer and girl to assist me on info as I land, I will be in Kiev on 24th March, on Wednesday.

Will really appreciate it if you can reply before then.

[Snowy]

I've been re-reading some of the posts with a view to planning a trip in April (if I don't get back soon I'm going to explode!). I've got a couple of questions for the Kiev regulars that I hope they can assist with.

Firstly I read a couple of pages back that O'Neils was a good place to pick up non-pro students. I'm not saying this isn't the case, but I had an apartment 200 yards from there when I was in Kiev and went for a drink there early evening quite often and I'm pretty sure there was no action on offer on any of my visits. The crowd was pretty much ex-pats looking for familiar surroundings or groups of locals out together. Maybe it has changed in nature since December, but it didn't look like a good place to go to meet locals (although it's a nice place to go).

The thing I'm most interested in are reccomendations for regular bars in Kiev with a good vibe that have some life in them around 8-9pm in the evening. Where can I go with a chance of hooking up with locals without waiting for midnight or 1am for people to arrive? Uke Boy mentioned that Eric's bars are all good - I went to 111 last time, which was great, but really didn't get busy on the nights I was there until midnight. Anyone got some other reccomendations? I know Eric has at least one other bar in Kiev, but I couldn't find it. I don't mind the late life but some earlier alternatives would be useful.

My second question is about internal travel in Ukraine. I might need to get to Mariupol - what's the best way to get there and roughly how much should it cost? Would I need to declare this on my visa or can I make the decision when I'm there and just use my standard tourist visa from the UK? Anyone been to Mariupol and, if so, what is it like? I saw Michael Gage had been there and said it didn't really have any tourist infrastructure, but I have basic Russian so I don't mind a trip to the relatively unknown, but some advice would be really welcome.

Sorry for so many questions; I promise to report back in full after my next visit.

[Uke Boy]

For those of you who wish to consider Gia as a possible option, they are fairly reliable, the ladies are almost always who they are in the photos and Gia can provide a flat on the Left Bank for you to meet the ladies away from your hotel.

However, be very aware of very significant price differences for locals versus foreigners. Here is a recent comparison for a new girl:

Zoya
1 hour 325 gr. = $61 @ today's rate of 5.32 gr. = US$1.00
2 hours 435 gr. = $82
3 hours 595 gr. = $112
4 hours 650 gr. = $122
10 hours 760 gr = $143
24 hours 1570 gr. = $295

The new girl ZOYA
1 hour- 70 EUR or $91 @ $1.30 street exchange rate
2 hours- 90 EUR or $117
3 hours- 110 EUR or $143
4 hours- 130 EUR or $169
10 hours- 180 EUR or $234
24 hours- 350 EUR or $455
Oral with condom, lesbi.

[Uke Boy]

Mangus,

It is escort.odessa.ua. However, a few weeks ago I got a message from one of the co-owners blaming the other co-owner with theft of monies, deposits, or something like that. A short while after that, when I went to their site, I got a message saying that I had no permission to enter. I thought it was because I was here but it may be that their business dispute is still on-going and they are completely off-line. I will keep checking. I may have a phone number somewhere and if I do, I will call and find out the situation. If I do learn anything, I will post it since I see you like Odessa.

Kiev-x and odessa-x are Russian language only sites, I am afraid. I do not want to go over the language issue again. I may be accused of generalizing.

The ladies on the Kiev sites, including uaescort.com, tend to be in the $40-$70 first hour and $70-80 for 2 hours, with overnights in the $150-200+ range.

There are some glaring exceptions to these prices and some of them are actually worth it. One lady who was on the uaescort site (she is gone but I think she will be back) charges $100 per hour but did everything and was just great.

The two girl services range from a high of $150 for 1.5 hours to $100 for one hour and 2 hours for $150.

I am afraid I cannot help you with the translations programs. However if you click on DEBYWKU (something close to that on the Kiev-x.com site) you will see the ladies and I am sure language should not be that much of a problem. Details, photos that are mostly real and phone numbers are there but not prices.

Prices here, on the net or in River Palace, are about equal but I might add, the local pro prices are lower. The locals still have less money than we do and the local pros therefore charge less. Not a whole lot less but still less.

I enjoy meeting a stunning local pro once in a while and two hours as a regular costs me $50. That is real and specific, no generalizations.

Watch out what you grasp for, it may bite back.

[Snowy]

TravelMen

The appartment was comfortable, adequate, pleasant - not sure what else to say about it! Not the lap of luxury, but nicely decorated, light, warm (I was there in December) and quite big. Like all the places I've booked in Russia, it wasn't much to look at from the outside and had a pokey stone staircase, but it had double-door security to the flat, security coded main door, was safe with an excellent location. Small but adequate bathroom, nice spacious lounge, really comfy bed, basic cable TV connection. It was perfect for my needs.

The thing I'm most interested in is that when I book on spec over the web that the people I book through can be trusted, and this couple definitely could. I'm sure for $100 you could get something far more luxurious than the one I had - from what I remember you get a two-bedroom, centrally located, satellite TV and jacuzzi for that sort of money from a few agencies on the web.

MM - I just use http://babelfish.altavista.com to translate Russian sites - free, easy to use and pretty effective.

[TravelMen]

Thanks Armourer and Snowy.

Can you guys tell me what the quality of the places were like?
I was after a good place, maybe up to $100 per night.

The Sherbourne looks pretty good, and they do the visa support letter and airport transfer.
I think they also have in room safes, which is a bit of peace of mind.

Any details would be great.

[Bez Bezarra]

Uke.

I can't get anything to come up on escort.odessa.ua ?
Do I need to add something else like .com or .net
to get to that site?

kiev-x.com comes up in russian. Is there any simple way to switch it to English WITHOUT using one of those tricky translation programs that I don't have?

As for me, you certainly CAN ASK ME how I don't know, since I've never used glitzy websites to pick and pay for a professional sex worker, because it seems like their prices are guarranteed to ALWAYS be higher on the internet.

I know that when I first went to Kiev in 2000, I was told that $100 per hour is totally wrong. $100 should be for all night, no less. These sites that ask for $250 to $350 all night for Kiev, that just sounds like way too much unless you are some Saudi Royal family customer type.

Apologies to all for generalizing unnecessarily.

A frequent grasper,

MM

[Vegamars]

All the info I've given is concrete out of experience.
Some agencies like wild-escorts and starsfromheaven certainly don't want to work in Ukraine to keep up a standard,but it doesn't mean there are certain exceptions in different ways.
Anyway,there are millions of other ways to reach better quality in Kiev.

[Uke Boy]

Snowy,

Thanks for the information. Yes, I am based in Kiev so my provider does redirect wildescorts and starsfromheaven. Since these two sites definitely do not want to do business here, unless someone can show otherwise, then it is a waste of time to talk about them or mention them in this forum.

Actually, the same redirect thing happens with escort.Odessa.ua.

The redirect does not happen with Kiev-x.com or Odessa-x.com. Those are actually two reasonably reliable sites.

Vegamars,

wildescorts and starsfromheaven sites do not work in Ukraine.

I took a look at lovelygirls.org and it is a site with fake rip-off photos. Use them at your own risk since the prices seem too high for whatever goblin may show up.

Kiev.magicmarble.net is the mirror site for Kiev Escort Agency. It seems that kievescort.com was taken down. By the way, the photos of the girls there are actual photos. Gia.com.ua is also reliable with normal prices.

I am not sure I want to grasp any frequency. I would rather have solid and accurate information so I can spend more time grasping the ladies. Grasping frequencies is for NASA.

[Vegamars]

http://kiev.magicmarble.net,starsfromheaven.co.uk,wild-escorts.co.uk,lovelygirls.org,gia.com.ua are all perfectly functioning websites serving in Kiev as well,but it's important to know how to approach to grasp the same frequency.