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03-13-22 09:38 #22180
Posts: 558Originally Posted by Sorbonne [View Original Post]
The regular I talked about above is actually a former freebee, not a pro or semi-pro, who has been married in the last few years in Kyiv. So a few days after I left Ukraine when nobody was still not really serious about the possibility of invasion, she thought I was still in Ukraine and sent me a message, saying that she was about to get divorced and asked me if I wanted to go "crazy" with her. From her recent photos, she still appears to be in mid 20's. When I was hanging with her, she thought I was about 10 years older, whereas in fact I am more than 25 years older.
I was not sure if I wanted to get entangled with your divorce; therefore, I was not sure if I wanted her to join me. But I kept in touch with her on this matter. Then I sent her a message on Valentine's Day, saying that she should leave Kyiv to the western Ukraine at least for the next few weeks. At that time she still believed that there would be no war.
The last time I heard from her on March 2, she was still in Kyiv. Now I can no longer contact her.
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03-13-22 06:33 #22179
Posts: 516Did you mean to respond to HulaHoops?
Originally Posted by Tomasb [View Original Post]
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03-13-22 06:26 #22178
Posts: 516Bad news about Lviv
Reports of explosions from a possible Russian missile attack. Or the explosions could have been caused by Ukrainian anti-missile defenses. Either way, it's not good news for Lviv. Details sketchy at the moment but I'm sure more info will be released soon.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndep...CylbeQntspAAAA
https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndep...C5hZKmpNspAAAA
Here are a couple of sources I've been following for breaking news:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KyivIndep...C5hZKmpNspAAAA
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/#sort=new.
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03-13-22 06:19 #22177
Posts: 1264Lviv
From news reports, there were air alert sirens going off in the wee hours the last few nights. Whether those are only tests, they did not say.
As the city does not appear to be subject to bombíng or missile strikes at the current time. But I believe Putin's goal now is to level the entire country and render it unlivable, and that includes Lviv. For a foreigner to stay in Ukraine now is pointless, unless you are a journalist or a relief worker or have a death wish.
Originally Posted by Jmsuttr [View Original Post]
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03-13-22 02:15 #22176
Posts: 300Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-12-22 21:04 #22175
Posts: 516Consider the Principle of Least Regret
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
So, which would you regret more? Leaving Kyiv and missing out on whatever you perceive the possible benefits to be of staying? Or staying and possibly (probably, IMO) finding yourself in worsening conditions and likely unable to leave.
Only you can decide but, after all you've already experienced, if you decide to stay you'll assume full ownership of any negative consequences that may befall you or those in your group.
Relocating to Poland would appear to be the safest and most prudent option, as it's a NATO member and not likely to be under threat unless there's a major escalation. Lviv would be the compromise choice but you'd need to evaluate the pros and cons of remaining in what is still technically a war zone. Yes, Lviv is currently safer than Kyiv, but that doesn't preclude a missile or bomb strike if Putin decides to flex his muscles and wants to intimidate NATO without directly striking a NATO country.
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03-12-22 18:39 #22174
Posts: 675Pics?
Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-12-22 14:07 #22173
Posts: 43Still in Kyiv, will possibly move to Poland
We are deciding whether to stay or move to Poland for a bit. At least to Lviv and then the border. What a terrible trip and idea to come.
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03-12-22 05:55 #22172
Posts: 1680Media conspiracy?
Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 23:35 #22171
Posts: 133If there would be that kind of a poll, I'd vote HulaHoops for the Person of the Year ISG-award.
Posthumous or not.
Hopefully you get a chance to get out of there. Contacting your embassies is a good idea. If even one of them have contacts to help you, maybe everyone can use the same way out.
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03-04-22 23:28 #22170
Posts: 1264Corridor
I have seen some military analysis that suggests this corridor is being proposed only to get rid the citizens who might be part of active resistance fighters. Russia does not have a good track record in allowing citizens to safely pass thru a war zone.
Originally Posted by Sorbonne [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 22:52 #22169
Posts: 558Originally Posted by MojoBandit [View Original Post]
There are also some experts who are pessimistic about this. After all who can still believe what Russia promises?
Russia initially said they would not target civilians. Now a humanitarian corridor? Makes zero sense.
If this happens, that is for Russia to be able to raze the city to rubbles.
So my advise, if anything, is: be careful in what you believe under this unfortunate circumstance.
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03-04-22 22:16 #22168
Posts: 2813Originally Posted by Rocko20 [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 22:01 #22167
Posts: 343Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
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03-04-22 10:00 #22166
Posts: 1259Originally Posted by HulaHoops [View Original Post]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...ar-putin-news/
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/top-wrap-10-ukraine-seeks-ceasefire-humanitarian-corridors-talks-with-russia-2022-03-03/
https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/no-breakthrough-in-russia-ukraine-talks-but-agreement-on-humanitarian-corridors-1.10651124