Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

I think I'm cute Where better and easier to find a girl in Kiev? I do not like the services of prostitutes I love real girls, it gives a lot of emotion.

Honestly, this is the best approach to find decent girls in Kiev, but be prepared it will take a lot of time, effort, money and work. Also you need to be able to speak the language and stay away from K. Street.

Easier just too pay.

[DramaFree11]

Finally, some good information, thanks for the report PhotoSlider!

I actually much prefer going to the apartments as I hate waiting for an hour to two hours for an ugly girl to show up then have to pay for an overpriced taxi for her.

I'm glad to hear there are apartment girls, as when I was there 2 years ago, it was almost all outcall only and after weeks I only found 1 place that had in-call (apartment).

Did you try any of the 1,000 uah - 1,500 uah girls? Were there are decent ones. 25 and under and thin?

Here in Kharkiv, I've found a few places from 900-1,200 uah with beautiful girls in their early 20's and thin. It just took a few weeks but there are quite a few. I've experienced more than 5 of them myself and had a few repeats.

I had trouble even finding any decent girls at the $100 mark at the apartments. $40-60, I can only imagine how bad that is. When I was there it was very hard to find decent girls at all at the apartments. I am talking 5's and below. Apartments and nightclubs use to be my approach, but both had a serious decline in quality girls.

[Member #4722]

I think I'm cute Where better and easier to find a girl in Kiev? I do not like the services of prostitutes I love real girls, it gives a lot of emotion.

FOH LOL I think I'm cute. If you don't like hookers you came to the wrong forum!

[Sofiy]

Leaving Kiev today after 34 days trip. All agencies have same girls, they all just share the girls from one agency to another. Operators keep changing 2 to 3 times a day confirmed by PhotoSlider, and each operator is having different contacts. It does not matter if you are a long term old customer as the operators change, addresses change, etc. This is the issue because Sex is not legal here. In Bangkok it is legal, but yea they have different beauty, we cannot compare it here.

They can send you different girl and show different girl in viber. This is common. I sent 2 girls back, keep paying taxi money.

One secret I learnt is that the in house (apartment girls) are different, out house girls are different. Mostly the In house are best girls. Visiting apartment really is best, but if you do not like the stink or the feeling that someone else have banged on this same bed a few minutes ago, then it can be tough. Generally 2100 UAH range girls are always best. They ask extra 1500 for BBBJ but now I think BBBJ should be avoided for the STDs. Anyways, here i come Bangkok.

Finally, some good information, thanks for the report PhotoSlider!

I actually much prefer going to the apartments as I hate waiting for an hour to two hours for an ugly girl to show up then have to pay for an overpriced taxi for her.

I'm glad to hear there are apartment girls, as when I was there 2 years ago, it was almost all outcall only and after weeks I only found 1 place that had in-call (apartment).

Did you try any of the 1,000 uah - 1,500 uah girls? Were there are decent ones. 25 and under and thin?

Here in Kharkiv, I've found a few places from 900-1,200 uah with beautiful girls in their early 20's and thin. It just took a few weeks but there are quite a few. I've experienced more than 5 of them myself and had a few repeats.

[MikeFree83]

If you have the looks, if you have maintained the body, and if you can speak local language, then it is possible for sure.

I think I'm cute Where better and easier to find a girl in Kiev? I do not like the services of prostitutes I love real girls, it gives a lot of emotion.

[Visal]

Hi guys,

Is it possible to meet a girl on the street and offer her love without money?

If you have the looks, if you have maintained the body, and if you can speak local language, then it is possible for sure.

[MikeFree83]

Leaving Kiev today after 34 days trip. All agencies have same girls, they all just share the girls from one agency to another. Operators keep changing 2 to 3 times a day, and each operator is having different contacts. They can send you different girl and show different girl in viber. This is common. One secret I learnt is that the in house (apartment girls) are different, out house girls are different. Mostly the In house are best girls. Visiting apartment really is best, but if you do not like the stink or the feeling that someone else have banged on this same bed a few minutes ago, then it can be tough. Generally 2100 UAH range girls are always best. They ask extra 1500 for BBBJ but now I think BBBJ should be avoided. Anyways.

Hi guys,

Is it possible to meet a girl on the street and offer her love without money?

[Visal]

Leaving Kiev today after 34 days trip. All agencies have same girls, they all just share the girls from one agency to another. Operators keep changing 2 to 3 times a day confirmed by PhotoSlider, and each operator is having different contacts. It does not matter if you are a long term old customer as the operators change, addresses change, etc. This is the issue because Sex is not legal here. In Bangkok it is legal, but yea they have different beauty, we cannot compare it here.

They can send you different girl and show different girl in viber. This is common. I sent 2 girls back, keep paying taxi money.

One secret I learnt is that the in house (apartment girls) are different, out house girls are different. Mostly the In house are best girls. Visiting apartment really is best, but if you do not like the stink or the feeling that someone else have banged on this same bed a few minutes ago, then it can be tough. Generally 2100 UAH range girls are always best. They ask extra 1500 for BBBJ but now I think BBBJ should be avoided for the STDs. Anyways, here i come Bangkok.

[Bearsi]

Never been to Kiev and thinking about going for December holiday and I've been looking at girls on relaxkiev and Natashaescort websites and I'm seeing decent looking girls for 3600-6000 uah for overnight service and I'm wondering if these sites are trustworthy and are these prices normal for Kiev because they are really low to reasonable to me!

Thanks.

[GDreams]

So I am searching for the maps / links, best areas of town, and driver recommendations but I am not able to find them. Whats the 411? Thanks in advance to all replies. Also, anybody who wants to meet up in kiev, belgrade, or bucharest between July and Sept. , just PM me.

I always go around Maidan or Bessarabska Rinok. Keep within 2 streets of Kreshatik. This gives easy access to the metro and the Marshutkas that girls will use to visit. Also easy o walk around to restaurants and sights.

[ShawMan74]

So I am searching for the maps / links, best areas of town, and driver recommendations but I am not able to find them. Whats the 411? Thanks in advance to all replies. Also, anybody who wants to meet up in kiev, belgrade, or bucharest between July and Sept. , just PM me.

[Kozerog]

I was never clueless, but emotion used to override reason where women were concerned. I can still remember the facts of my crazy behavior, but not the emotions behind the craziness.

Once suggested marrying a girlfriend as we were walking past the civil marriage office. We had not had sex in months but were still living together because of tight rental situation in San Francisco in late 1990's. She was seeing another guy for sex, I was seeing another woman. My marriage proposal was a follow-up to a fight we had just had: "That'll teach her!" I was running my own business, wealthy with high income and she knew it. I was 38 at the time. Luckily, she decided to teach me a lesson by creating a scene in the marriage office, so that I stormed out.

Just 4 years ago, here in Ukraine, I was still thinking that I should be dating civilians not more than 20 years younger, versus having much younger sugar babies. For whatever reason, I got excited by one of these women in Dnipro (still Dnipropetrovsk then) who I had just met for coffee. Hadn't even kissed her much less had sex with her, had only spoken briefly with her, and already I was making plans about our future together. "I'm a madman in love!" I shouted in bad Russian as she laughed and waved goodbye from the taxi she had summoned to escape me. As soon as she was out of sight, I came to my senses: "What the hell was all that about?

I could go on and on. So many dodged bullets over the years. But I think I'm finally over all that now that I've committed to being a monger henceforth.

As for Antony, the reason she "recommends" condoms, rather than absolutely requiring them, is so she can blame him for the inevitable pregnancy: "I told you over and over to use condoms!"

[Stevie69]

My method is to find a good provider, one who gives you want you want and actually seems to enjoy it. You then ask her if she has a friend. She might then immediately show you photos from her phone, or send them to you later. If you like her, she will contact her and tell her that you are a good guy. Anyway, I give the first girl double her usual amount, or maybe a little more, and I have no idea how much she give to the other girl. I would like to think that it is about half.

I think that unless the girls know each other and cooperate, threesomes can be difficult. After the double headed BJ, there is a tendency to work on one girl and then the other one, so essentially, it is like having sex with just one girl at a time. But if they know each other, cooperate, and maybe do a girl on girl, then it is wonderful.

Whenever I have arranged 3-some my standard procedure is to recruit girl #1. Tell her what I want and then either ask her to recruit girl #2 on the spot (if there are other semi-pros around) or recruit girl #2 for the next visit. Maybe promise her a little money extra money on the next hookup as a finders fee. Works flawlessly and allows you to sit back and relax and watch the recruiting as a little extra entertainment before the action.

[Stevie69]

Yes; if she is having unprotected sex, she IS trying to get pregnant. You do not have to ejaculate to impregnate a female: sperm and seminal fluid come from different places. Seminal fluid helps, but it is not essential. . The times you "accidentally" end up having sex "au naturel" are the times of her period that she is most fertile.

As per my previous posts I'm not seeing WGs now, I have turned an ex-WG to my girlfriend whom I support financially. We are living together. She told me she didn't want to get pregnant now either and always recommends me to use condoms or at least not to cum inside, but we still practice unprotected sex at times especially recently.

[Stevie69]

Have you been to the border lately? Anyone can just walk in. Sam in Canada, same in Europe.

On a related note, check out Dave Foley's horror story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaC-2lj6HNg).

Anecdotal. I had a Mexican worker with US citizenship a year ago who told me of his child support adventure. His Mexican wife ran off with a rich guy in Mexico and she got a divorce and child support for the daughter. The wife wouldn't let him see his daughter, so he returned to the USA and refused to pay the Mexican child support order. The wife has been trying to collect child support but cannot get a visa to chase him for child support in California. He told her, when you let me see my daughter, then I will pay you the child support, but she refuses. . . A large powerful force protects American men from foreign golddiggers. The US Border Patrol and ICE. If you get a foreign woman US citizenship or green card, then she can easily come to where you live and make your life hell in a US divorce court.