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05-11-19 19:35 #19480
Posts: 2794Gia / KFC.
This is a complete rip off, and should only be used if you are there for a short stay or a last resort, and these girls sure as hell are not models, just normal girls with Photo Shopped Pictures. Anything above $150 for one hour, is way too much money to spend in Kiev, on girls. You can go to any surrounding country, including Germany and bang very good looking girls for the same money or cheaper. It makes zero sense to fly from Europe to Kiev. You guys have all kinds of hot girls, get on SA, and find some locals.
Kiev is good for cheap average girls, safe city, good weather, many things to do during the day and if you are worried about the Visa. There is absolutely no other reason to go, if you are looking for higher end girls. There is no Night Life and Strip Bars are mediocre at best. If this is what you are looking for, I highly recommend Kiev.
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05-11-19 17:50 #19479
Posts: 258Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
I don't think Norway and Spain are comparable in terms of mongering, for example. Nor Singapore and Thailand.
Kiev is not perfect, but still surpasses most cities in the Old World as a mongering spot, especially if you are into Slavic girls.
Kiev is full of scams, but with more caution and efforts you can still get really hot girls here. This city is not newbie-friendly, it is for frequent visitors and people who reside here.
While I understand that you just want to warn people of the scams and potential disappointments in Kiev mongering scene, the negative aspects of Kiev are often exaggerated in your constant criticism of the city.
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05-11-19 17:20 #19478
Posts: 258Originally Posted by Francis4 [View Original Post]
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05-11-19 04:03 #19477
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Argo1990 [View Original Post]
1 hour from KEC. 2-3 hours from reliable validated through prior visits source (Viber agency). For that much money easily can be 6-10 hours with regular contact. Yes, true model in the common sense of that term.
Would be newbie able to achieve that level? Maybe with KEC, most likely for more money, like 5000 UAH first hour and 16000 UAH for 10 hours (500+ Euro, or 50 Euro per hour for 10 hours):
https://kievescort.club/girl/katia12
But not with any other regular agency in short time interval. Money versus time versus effort versus quality and convenience. Old laws of economy.
Pattaya is easier than Kiev for sure.
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05-11-19 03:53 #19476
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Argo1990 [View Original Post]
How many times have you been to Kiev?
When was your last time? How many years ago?
How long do you typically stay?
What is your budget? Total and per hour?
What do you call "a model"?
To me a 19-21 years old student with minimal makeup, clean cloth, fit, good manners, sincere and friendly is better than any so called model. I meet young ladies in Kiev for my own pleasure, not for bragging rights.
If you are happy with girls in Thailand or Mexico, and have no particular preference for Ukrainian beauties then don't go to Kiev. It is not cheap and not easy at all. In my opinion, however, the reward justifies the effort.
I said 2 weeks because many gentlemen left unhappy staying for only 3-5 days. There is no drive-through FKK or Pattaya style ordering in Kiev. Yes, I know, you want it, but it doesn't exist the way you want it. Bars, strip clubs, apartment brothels are all self-deception. GIA-KEC is expensive and these days doesn't guarantee good quality. There are still great KEC girls, but even in Kiev there are significantly more affordable alternatives with great quality.
I do rapid fire agency ordering sifting through candidates and calling up my regulars from prior visits.
No later than today, in anticipation of my imminent arrival to Kiev, I sent a Viber request to my agency dispatcher. I know her since November 2017. The following conversation transpired:
- Hi, Oksana! Sorry, I am not in Kiev yet, but will be soon. If you have a minute, could you please resolve a dispute I am having? I am saying that when I arrive to Kiev, with your help and with my prior contacts I can easily have 2-3 amazingly beautiful girls with good manners for no more than 2100 UAH per hour within my first 24 hours in Kiev. And my ever so doubtful counterparts that were cheated in Kiev and didn't visit it for few years now state that Kiev sucks, that due to visa-free all the decent Ukrainian girls traveled to Europe and Middle East, and those girls that stay in Kiev are either ugly, or short, or old, or expensive. Would you mind resolving our dispute please? Who says the truth?
Of course being the agency dispatcher she is marketing her goods. For her it was 10 pm Friday night, and she was very busy, so her response was curt and straight to the point:
- You do. You tell the truth. There are new girls all the time. Young, beautiful, tall, well-mannered students. We are awaiting for your arrival.
And I ordered from that agency a lot. Dozens and dozens and dozens. Yes there were occasional mishaps, yes I speak local language, yes I am able to explain what exactly I want, and I am not afraid to reject when they send me bad ones, I also do not mind bait and switch at all, as long as those that arrived satisfy my requirements.
Many of my friends from this Forum have seen and confirmed the quality, and shared theirs. The rest is theological argument.
You want to go to Pattaya or Moscow or Tijuana, then forget about Kiev, and please do your thing, stop daydreaming about Kiev. More girls for the rest of us. NP at all.
Cheap readily available models for newbies in Kiev never existed.
And speaking about foreigners not being an object of interest anymore. Sex tourists aren't.
I had the following occasion of trading up a used iPhone in Kiev. Needed more memory. They asked for my passport. Stupid me, I gave it. You should have seen how the attitude of that girl has changed 180 degrees from being all business, an impregnable fortress to a smiling beauty looking for a way to prolong our conversation. She didn't know that my GF was sitting on a side bench, and trying not to laugh aloud. But I returned later and we addressed our mutual needs in amicable fashion.
Realistic expectations are the key in Kiev.
End of story.
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05-11-19 03:08 #19475
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Francis4 [View Original Post]
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05-11-19 02:55 #19474
Posts: 690Originally Posted by Arkiloko [View Original Post]
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05-11-19 02:49 #19473
Posts: 690Originally Posted by Francis4 [View Original Post]
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05-11-19 01:47 #19472
Posts: 124Originally Posted by Francis4 [View Original Post]
I like pushinska, it's very central, good place.
Anyway I prefer to stay out of inner center. You always move with uber, it's cheap and so you can stay in residential areas where living is cheaper.
You will pay less going around with uber than renting a central apartment.
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05-10-19 23:09 #19471
Posts: 2794Almost impossible to even find a model in Kiev on a short stay. Maybe if you are working there and can speak the language, but highly unlikely you have a better chance becoming a professional athlete.
When you guys make these ridiculous statements, you are lying to yourself and more importantly others. Guys read this crap and believe it.
If you want models here where to go:
1. Russia.
2. Europe.
3. Germany.
4. New York.
5. Latin Americal.
6. Vegas, LA, San Diego.
7. Asia.
8. Kiev is at the bottom of the barrel, sorry the truth hurts.
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05-10-19 22:48 #19470
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by Argo1990 [View Original Post]
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05-10-19 20:58 #19469
Posts: 258Originally Posted by RollBuzz [View Original Post]
Some use it to send money overseas.
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05-10-19 20:07 #19468
Posts: 1Question re accommodation.
Hi guys,
I've been following the threads here for some time and about to go to Kiev for the first time. I'the like to ask for some practical advice regarding accommodation. I've found a good apartment on Pushkinska St but Google maps shows something that looks like a police booth close to the entrance of the building. Does this sound like a bad idea to you when it comes to having girls come over to the apartment? Or not?
Thanks for any advice!
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05-10-19 18:39 #19467
Posts: 823Originally Posted by RollBuzz [View Original Post]
WU incurs fee. These days girls ask for deposit directly into their bank account. Ukrainian banking system easily allows that between different individuals and even different banks. Quite often without any fee.
Again, the best practice is not to do any online transfers. Especially before the commodities are delivered.
Agree with Roll Buzz, IG profile of that ummmm female should be revealed. Not for persecution or prosecution, but for prevention. Perhaps a blacklist thread creation may be considered.
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05-10-19 17:29 #19466
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by RollBuzz [View Original Post]