Kyiv

[AntonySun1996]

Antony's problem is that he thinks money will get him a girlfriend. That is never the case and he should focus on improving his status (looks, appearance, confidence). I definitely need to do the same, but I am smart enough to never to try to date a girl that I am paying to have sex with. Best bet for him is to spend some money to bang some hot semi-pros to improve his confidence until he finds a real girl.

Experience helps in future relationships. I somehow met a 8+/10 on Tinder and we hit it off a couple years ago. She was 22 yo, 176 cm, artistic and with long brunette hair. Pretty much exactly what I dream about, but I could not handle being obsessed and jealous about her. She wanted to move really slow in the relationship (which most hot girls do) and it drove me crazy which ruined the relationship. While the situation really sucked at the time, the experience has helped me a lot more in the future. Just as we always comment girls can smell money. They can smell confidence and status too.

What I expect is not necessarily a real girlfriend. A monogamous sugar relationship would work for me. Transforming your sugar GF into a real GF is quite difficult, but I don't mind trying.

Sometimes when I ask my sugar GF if she wants to have a serious relationship with me, she thinks that I just want to fuck her for free, which is not the case. I'm still willing to pay her. I just want to get more emotionally involved in the relationship.

[AntonySun1996]

If anyone lives near metro station and wants to have some drinks together, PM me.

[PhotoSlider]

Rarely is free pussy free.

Agree. I do like however that you use the adverb "rarely", instead of "never" or "always not". Pussy is rarely free in Ukraine, makes one so much happier when it does happen.

Perhaps we can differentiate between transactional hourly P4P, even GIA / KEC actresses hired for 8-12 hours, and civilian girl, that decided to have a good time. Assuming that the gentleman is already in Kiev, then it is his choice to save money and eat fast food, or go to Avalon on his own, solo. Or instead have an enjoyable female companionship, and feel the smooth skin of her inner thigh, welcoming his hand under the table, knowing that there will be a follow up soon.

I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.

Digging deep, playing all the way in! Takes substantial determination.

The frontal view is outstanding. Nothing to add or take away! 18, huh? I am trying to date the girls of legal age that are 3 times younger than me. A friend of mine from San Diego says: "We are only as young, as the women that love us!

[Michi T]

Enough pointless arguing about who is right and who is lying.

Friend of mine writes today from Kiev that he doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to visit all the girls demanding his attention. Competition is high for males with a promise of bettering girls lives. Riina, we should copyright this expression, I'll pay you royalties after opening T-shirt business.

Would be great to get some real reports. February and March are usually the slowest. April and May is when it picks up, as young hotties change into more revealing outfits, and stroll around showing off what they have to offer.

I am getting jeaouls) I also want to be Kiev! But now work and in April visit Georgia. No Ukraine for me for the moment (.

[Michi T]

Hi,

I am at the moment in Donetsk. Any tips on how and where do I get to meet some nice pleasure girls? Any good massage parlours etc, places like recommended bars or whatever?

How the border crossing from Ukraine to Donezk at the moment? Where the crossing? Still needed to give some bribe money?

[Michi T]

Rarely is free pussy free. Food, enough drink to relax their guard, all costs along with the efforts made on those who don't perform at all. I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.

Haha, well done))) That the young nice girl.

[PhotoSlider]

Enough pointless arguing about who is right and who is lying.

Friend of mine writes today from Kiev that he doesn't have sufficient bandwidth to visit all the girls demanding his attention. Competition is high for males with a promise of bettering girls lives. Riina, we should copyright this expression, I'll pay you royalties after opening T-shirt business.

Would be great to get some real reports. February and March are usually the slowest. April and May is when it picks up, as young hotties change into more revealing outfits, and stroll around showing off what they have to offer.

[JohnnyW]

I'm up for sharing the legit and good girls we find on Kiev.

https://t.me/joinchat/HNPXAw7tQXsDc-RTFYGsIQ is a channel for sharing information.

For more information about Kiev and girls.

[InDonetsk19]

Hi,

I am at the moment in Donetsk. Any tips on how and where do I get to meet some nice pleasure girls? Any good massage parlours etc, places like recommended bars or whatever?

[GDreams]

Sorry, spending between $1000-1700 on an airline, missing a couple of weeks of work, to bang a 5 or 6 is definitely, not free pussy. As I have mentioned, most guys could bang 5 or 6's in there native country, for free. . You guys might want to take a double take on the pictures you guys are posting of these supposed High Quality girls. Just normal girls, in an over inflated market.

Rarely is free pussy free. Food, enough drink to relax their guard, all costs along with the efforts made on those who don't perform at all. I married a Ukrainian from Kiev, she was 18 I was 48. It was expensive free but I enjoyed it. I now have a 23 yo Russian GF who is also an expensive freebie but worth it to me. I have little desire to seek out lots of casual encounters, one hot GF meets my needs. I will include a taste and I would consider her an 8 - 8.5, perfect body for my liking.

[PhotoSlider]

Some people really have a flair for the drama and love the use of numbers. First it is impossible to get anything but a 7 in Kiev until I point out that a 7 is a well above average woman now it's only 6's that is the best anyone can get.

And then to get really dramatic about the percentage of fake profiles on escort sites the guy says 95% but he has to come in with the dramatics with 99.5 despite admittedly not visiting Kiev for about 2.5 years and regardless there would be no way to know the percentage of fake profiles unless you called every one so in fact no one knows and the flair for the drama can be very misleading to other forum members.

Forget 7 and even 6 now it is 5. Ukraine is degenerating rapidly. In a dramatic fashion.

I am almost thankful to this troll fishing for attention. The less mongers go to Kiev, the more affordable beautiful pussy for the brave ones of us that do visit and partake.

[DramaFree11]

Looks like the only one on the Kiev thread that banged or hooked up with Ukraine girls this week is me. What a Surprise!

Funny how others complain, about my post, and deal in a fantasy world. I am the only one banging Ukraine Chicks, at the moment. (Crazy part is I am trying to avoid them, that is why I am traveling to Moscow) Interesting, but no girls are leaving Kiev, according to the experts, just makes you wonder.

I do give Mich T. Credit, he has major street game, but you may want to read what others have posted about those girls not me, just normal girls.

[PhotoSlider]

Simply not true.

As Karl Marx said: "Practice Is the Sole Criterion of Truth". Hehehe.

Whether a theory correctly reflects the objectively existing objects (beautiful and affordable Ukrainian ladies) with which it concerns itself, and whether it is the truth, cannot be determined within the sphere of thinking, or by means of dramatic theoretical argument, but only on the basis of testing in social practice.

As applied to mongering, AFAIK in November 2018 in Ukraine, Michi T performed social practice directly related to the subject of our discussion. So did I in September, October, November and December of 2018. So did couple of friends whose opinion I trust and value, and that was in January and February 2019. Somehow we all found beautiful Ukrainian ladies. Some of those beautiful ladies were free. Some of the flights to Kiev were on business, also free.

Dramatic theoretical argument on Forum without visiting Ukraine for years versus social practice on the ground in Kiev.

IMO Michi T wins easily.

[Michi T]

Free Pussy in Ukraine, very, very unlikely, unless you have extremely low standards. Not to mention the time you will put in and expenses flying to Kiev. You pay, one way or another.

Simply not true.

[DramaFree11]

Sorry, spending between $1000-1700 on an airline, missing a couple of weeks of work, to bang a 5 or 6 is definitely, not free pussy. As I have mentioned, most guys could bang 5 or 6's in there native country, for free. . You guys might want to take a double take on the pictures you guys are posting of these supposed High Quality girls. Just normal girls, in an over inflated market.