Kyiv

[BigBangLover]

Destinations I have lived or visited several times:

1. Moscow you can bang real models, (Not Hooter Girls) for $175-350, develop relationships with them they will go out with you and spend the night.

A. Cost of living is fair, if you us Airbb and Uber, very reasonable.

Be. You could sponsor a Model for $1000-2500 a month.

2. Mexico big Cities you can get real model, (from all over the world) $150-300, all shapes and sizes.

A. Living Expenses very reasonable..

Good information about other destinations from an experienced, Just missed Brasilia, should be one of the best countries.

E. G. Rio with nice beach atmosphere.

But it's all subjective, and it depends on what you are looking for. Its not all about sex.

A lot of factors influence the choice:

Beauty of girls, nightlife, living costs, good food, weather, visa required? Mentality of local people. And of course the situation in your origin country.

From my point of view the Visa for Russia (Moscow) is annoying.

Last time it took 4 weeks, many requirement documents, about 90€ etc.

Its nonsense for a person like me (living in Germany, where everywhere FKK Clubs - 30 min /50€) going to Kiev just for sex.

Maybe it was a good destination 4-5 years ago.

Nevertheless, I like to visit it 1-2 times for a short weekend trip.

It is still one of the cheapest (costs, living standards) european capitols.

[Volpone]

LOL, coming to Kiev and paying a monthly salary for a pro, that smells despair.

You can have many Eastern Europe girls for less than that in Western Europe. I think even Belgium, United Kingdom, Denmark, Switzerland, Austria are going to be cheaper than Kiev. Don't say that Ukrainian girls are prettier than Czech, Rumanian, Hungarian or Baltic countries girls, that's not true.

This morning just had a pretty NON-PRO, 23 years old student for 50 $ (French kisses, 69, BBBJ, Cuni and sex) + 200 UAH for taxi, because she lives very far away. She wanted to come by Mini-bus, but she was late, so she told me she took a taxi. Well I don't know the truth, she might have come by mini-bus anyway. Next time she wants to come by mini bus, because she wants to save the 184 UAH, small amount, a bit more than 7 $. So you can see that I could get 5 Non-pros with these 250 $ for a GIA girl.

Who is going to pay these insane prices and to feed the mafia?

[Horny American]

I visited Kiev in both June and July and had a pretty much easy time in getting as much action as I could handle. I do admit that Mamba was more work than usual since Gia wasn't running but I was still able to easily find many young, cute and sexy girls at affordable prices. My best Mamba girls actually contacted me. They could see my profile that I was both in town and willing to be a sponsor. Their profile DID NOT say that they would looking for a sponsor either. They were more or less UTR semi pro's using Mamba. I was also contacted on Mamba by over a dozen girls that pretended to be real but were really an agency.

I still visited a strip club and brought some action back from there as well. As mentioned before, I also got action from Buddha Bar very, very easily. I was also approached on three different occasions on Kreschatyk while I was just sitting and taking a break. One wanted to go to my room for $100 and when I declined she then gave me her laminated card and said she could arrange for anyone I wanted. That she would get a commission out of it. One of the others that approached me tried to get me to go back to her apartment instead of my hotel. I was VERY suspicious of her and said no way!

I'll add some pics below too since I always make an effort to get both pics and videos from my encounters and most women do allow it if you can talk the talk (or tip enough LOL). I plan on making another report when I have more time about some of the Mamba girls. I'm not giving out too much info for one reason. That reason is that I did before and then a monger threw me under the bus by blabbing to the girl about my report. She then freaked out on me even though I didn't use her real name or pics. Therefore, less info for others is less headache for me.

Note: I am not claiming that any of the women were a 10 at all. In previous trips, I did find women that most would say were a 10 but those I found on Instagram actually.

[DramaFree11]

The sight is nice, but the prices are insane. When you add in Travel Expenses you are paying any where from $250-350 an hour, or more, this make zero sense, to bang an average girl, that could barely get a job at Hooter's or Twin Peaks in America. Yes, the more money you spend. On the site the cheaper it is, but still a total waste of resources. Some of the same guys celebrating GIA, say do not over pay, total contradiction. Anything above $150 is way too much in Kiev. You can go to many different destinations, in the world where you can Hook up with real models for less money and you can pay them extra and the can lie to you! I will give examples.

I understand if you want a run around and approach 18-21 girls on the streets of Kiev, you probably have to approach between 10-25 a day to develop a network. Mamba, you are looking at 1-2 hours a day, probably more and many scams, (Fake Photos, trying to go to Expensive Restaurants, Bring there Friends, there are just too many to list.) This makes sense, around $100 or $200 for the night. The street game can work a by far less scams. The girls will tell you are great and Ukraine guys suck, not for me, but some guys love this. Also, Rio is a good option if you can get out of there with not spending a lot on there scams. Again, these girls are very average.

Destinations I have lived or visited several times:

1. Moscow you can bang real models, (Not Hooter Girls) for $175-350, develop relationships with them they will go out with you and spend the night.

A. Cost of living is fair, if you us Airbb and Uber, very reasonable.

Be. You could sponsor a Model for $1000-2500 a month.

2. Mexico big Cities you can get real model, (from all over the world) $150-300, all shapes and sizes.

A. Living Expenses very reasonable.

B. Mexico City I was banging real fitness Models for way cheaper then girls in Kiev.

C. Also, there also other great locations Tijuana. Monterrey. Beach destinations are way more expensive.

3. Colombia way over-rated, would not recommended it, but you can find some Hot Girls, again would not recommend, way over rated.

4. Dubai you have a better chance I finding a Hot girl from Ukraine there, then in Kiev.

5. Germany way cheaper and if you are willing to pay GIA prices, you can have whatever you like.

6. Asia, I am sure is way cheaper, but not for me.

7. Seeking Arrangement in the States or Europe, in Major cities you can get hot College Girls for $300-400, for the night and monthly $1500-3000, and they meet with you a couple of times a week. Europe, Russia, and Mexico much cheaper, I highly recommend this sight.

Has improved significantly:

- Much better organized and structured.

- Has ability to compare girls.

- New phone number.

"Site under construction" is not anymore.

There's a bit of usual cheating: age for many girls is few years off, customer review dates are adjusted to hide the 2-3 months gap, etc. Nothing unexpected.

Seems that business partners and protection services have worked out a mutually beneficial agreement. As a wise man said, too much money being lost.

Awaiting the first reviews. Actually do not expect it to be significantly different from before the bust.

[OlaxxxOlsen]

Hello,

Not easy to figure out about prices in Kiev.

I got sexbomb girl who give real GFE for 100 usd / 2 hours.

Then other nice InstagramGirl want 1000 usd!!

This is because somebody do pay so much.

Remember a teacher salary is about 300 usd / month.

Go for the semipro or MILF who need the money.

But it take time to find the good deal in Kiev.

The phone is not answering indeed.

Before you guys get all excited you might want to look at the prices. Prices start at $250, insane amount of money for Kiev.

[PhotoSlider]

New GIA site https://escort.vc/ has improved significantly:

- Much better organized and structured.

- Has ability to compare girls.

- New phone number.

"Site under construction" is not anymore.

There's a bit of usual cheating: age for many girls is few years off, customer review dates are adjusted to hide the 2-3 months gap, etc. Nothing unexpected.

Seems that business partners and protection services have worked out a mutually beneficial agreement. As a wise man said, - too much money being lost.

Awaiting the first reviews. Actually do not expect it to be significantly different from before the bust.

[Member #4722]

In the past I have gone to Shooters once or twice each trip. I didn't even bother this time. Not many pretty girls and the staff is very rude.

Most of the staff at Caribbean is nice but one bartender chastised me for not tripping when I had been tipping for every round. Maybe some girls grabbed my tips off the bar. Then the next night he refused to serve me! I was stone cold sober at the time. He just pointed me to the other bar where I got my drinks with no issues.

[DramaFree11]

Yes, but it seems, it is still the best option when we talking just about Clubs.

Of course, you can try street game, mamba etc, but let us just concentrate on Nightlife and Clubs:

Especially when you have just a short time visit in Kiev, CC looks like the best place for tourists.

Shooters and Buddha Bar maybe the second option?

During my visit Ii explored some local non-touristic clubs DLeur (former DLux), Chi, Coyote Ugly.

I heard about Club Ajur in the Avalon Complex, but not tried during my short visit.

Sometimes there can be Non-Pro, E. G. Students on weekends, who want try their luck with foreigners.

Good Advice, I would avoid Shooters, just go to Strip Bar. Shooters is a total waste of time unless you real have incredibly low standards. There was a time that it was decent, but real bad reviews now.

[BigBangLover]

Just want everyone to Understand Car. Club is an average place, some might say below average depending on your tastes. But during the week is an option. You should probably go there before hitting the strip clubs you probably can negotiate a better deal and for a longer period of time. You will find the same type of girls that are at the strip clubs, 5-6, we a few 7's mixed. Mostly Sex Tourist (Attempting to B P. C.).

Rog123 just explained it. Ratio changes depending on what's going on at CC. Concert, public dancing, different days of the week.

Yes, but it seems, it is still the best option when we talking just about Clubs.

Of course, you can try street game, mamba etc, but let us just concentrate on Nightlife and Clubs:

Especially when you have just a short time visit in Kiev, CC looks like the best place for tourists.

Shooters and Buddha Bar maybe the second option?

During my visit Ii explored some local non-touristic clubs DLeur (former DLux), Chi, Coyote Ugly.

I heard about Club Ajur in the Avalon Complex, but not tried during my short visit.

Sometimes there can be Non-Pro, E. G. Students on weekends, who want try their luck with foreigners.

[PhotoSlider]

Awesome Report!

...The city is pretty amazing and there is so much to do. I could probably stay there a couple months and never get bored. As this was my fourth trip and I have now spent more than a month in Kiev I am pretty comfortable with the city and it's no longer a culture shock. I love that in this city you can go out any night and meet a much younger woman as in Ukraine it's not that odd for a woman in her 20's to be with a guy in his 40's...

That is the essence of Kiev! I feel exactly the same before, during and after each visit. Thank you so much for sharing.

[DramaFree11]

Just want everyone to Understand Car. Club is an average place, some might say below average depending on your tastes. But during the week is an option. You should probably go there before hitting the strip clubs you probably can negotiate a better deal and for a longer period of time. You will find the same type of girls that are at the strip clubs, 5-6, we a few 7's mixed. Mostly Sex Tourist (Attempting to B P. C.).

Rog123 just explained it. Ratio changes depending on what's going on at CC. Concert, public dancing, different days of the week.

[Kater100]

Recently spent two weeks in Kiev. Love the city there is so much to do. I had friends in town and was doing a lot of non-mongering activities, so I didn't get as many girls as I had hoped. But had a great time regardless.

I have been to Kiev now four times so I had some contacts from previous trips. Before my visit I collected about 20 numbers from Mamba. I prioritized the ladies that were the most attractive and the ones where their Whatsapp pictures matched their Mamba profile. Also good communication via Mamba helped me prioritize.

Just to be clear I will not be sharing any contacts. Last summer I shared contacts with 10-15 people and got only a few thank yous and only one report back. You can find all the same women I am reporting about you just have to do the work.

So my first night in town......

Excellent Report Rog123! Thank you very much!

I will be in Kiev next month in August with some friends for the first time. I will do my "homework" in mamba.

We arrived on Wednesday late at 23:30. I asking this already in another post if someone have a recommendation for Wednesday and Thursday night. It seams like that Caribbean Club is the right choice.

What I didn't understand in CC is when they have shows on weekends when the DJ start to play? When we don't like to watch the show when should we come for the DJ?

[Rammstein2]

I read your report with great pleasure and could confirm that Mamba is great to get in touch with girls. I have been in Kiev 15 times since December 2015; all together about half a year and it was a great time. Unfortunately my 24 year old number one girl whom I knew since may 2016 left me in may because she had a boyfriend now. I recognized that she was the great factor to go to Kiev; the other girls only have been the starter and the dessert. I am about 50 and I think that I will never had such a beautiful, clever and shy girl again, a former student who only got in financial troubles once and met me at this time.

What can I do to feel good in Kiev again? I think your post helped me very much!

[PhotoSlider]

Caribbean.

I was there on Sunday evening with that other guy from the forum. And both of us did not see any working girls. All people were into (salsa) dancing.

Rog123 just explained it. Ratio changes depending on what's going on at CC. Concert, public dancing, different days of the week.

[PhotoSlider]

Hi Seniors,

Iam exploring Kiev / Baku for a trip in October.

Please suggest as which one is better for mongering?

Compare number of Kiev Forum messages vs. Baku. See if you have any further Qs.