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  1. #18400

    What You Need To Know In Ukraine.

    1. Average monthly wage is about $176.

    2. Prostitution is illegal.

    3. Most girls don't want to be prostitutes.

    4. Quality prostitutes have far better options outside of Ukraine.

    5. Because of low wages, relationships are very important to get by.

    6. One week tourists can expect this.

  2. #18399
    Quote Originally Posted by Alekezam  [View Original Post]
    I found it to be easy to meet girls both civilian and pro. Out of the visits I made I stayed no longer than a week.
    Can you share some substance on how you met these girls and any insight learned?

  3. #18398
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your post with the exception, energy level is real low in Kiev. The City is dead most nights of the week, but very cheap and some find that real attractive. Not for me, I would rather work a little harder and go to destinations were the city is alive with life. , not the case in Ukraine. Odessa does have energy, but difficult to get girls there.
    As an over forty guy, I can find a girl in a dead Kiev night life. I can not find a girl in a vibrant Western night life.

  4. #18397
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Informative concise contribution!

    Uklon also has smartphone app, and online request option for English speaking driver.
    I was in Kiev last month. I was never able to get a taxi with Uklon app.

    Uber works fine. It was really usefull for me. a lot of cars, good service and price

  5. #18396
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterxxx  [View Original Post]
    You forgot a big provider: Uklon.

    https://www.uklon.com.ua/

    Older and more widespread than Uber or Yandex.
    Informative concise contribution!

    Uklon also has smartphone app, and online request option for English speaking driver.

  6. #18395
    With the strong right to have my own opinion, I do think that Ukraine is far better than western Europe and US. One thing I would say is that, there might be many who came to Kiev with a lot of hope but got burnt with prices and bad experiences. Well (in my opinion), these bad experiences are just because of your mistakes. If you behave as desperate sex tourists showing off money and status, then there are much more smarter (yet poorer) people who will take advantage of you. This is not only in Kiev but anywhere in the world. Just go there will reasonable expectation, and knowing that Kiev is "Comparably" better than the country you live in. No girl is going to fall into your lap asking for having sex with you in exchange of small money.

    1) Know the place / clubs / coffee spots you are going to. Do your homework. If not, get burnt, Kiev is not going to make it super easy for anyone.

    2) Be patient, you might not succeed in the first attempt, but don't behave desperate, be cool and behave as if you are not talking to the girl to get her to bed. Talk to her as if you genuinely are interested in something else other than the girl you are talking to. Most likely, she will sense that you are harmless and will put her guards down.

    3) Kiev is really cheap (I feel this since I live in Norway), enjoy this purchase power on something else apart from sex, while looking for sex.

    The point is, don't be desperate and don't behave desperate. If you are, then go to expensive take out options, where the girls are waiting for you to come and pick her. After 2 decades of mongers flooding Ukraine, you think that girls do not know about why a tourist is trying to talk to a strange girl? They know, you have to make the conversation past that. I totally understand that not everyone is extrovert enough to do this. But then, guys who are introverts will have about 30% (yes, pulling the number from my hat) more chance than you country. Its not like you go to a girl, talk and she will fall into your lap (never going to happen, unless you make her think past the sex tourist question in her head).

    My final request, stop all the negativity about this place, reader will get a negative vibe about Kiev and might backoff. This place is really nice, in all aspects. Purchase power / girls / clubs / food / energy. Just go there and sample them all.

    I agree with your post with the exception, energy level is real low in Kiev. The City is dead most nights of the week, but very cheap and some find that real attractive. Not for me, I would rather work a little harder and go to destinations were the city is alive with life. , not the case in Ukraine. Odessa does have energy, but difficult to get girls there.

  7. #18394
    Quote Originally Posted by NorskKing  [View Original Post]
    With the strong right to have my own opinion, I do think that Ukraine is far better than western Europe and US. One thing I would say is that, there might be many who came to Kiev with a lot of hope but got burnt with prices and bad experiences. Well (in my opinion), these bad experiences are just because of your mistakes. If you behave as desperate sex tourists showing off money and status, then there are much more smarter (yet poorer) people who will take advantage of you. This is not only in Kiev but anywhere in the world. Just go there will reasonable expectation, and knowing that Kiev is "Comparably" better than the country you live in. No girl is going to fall into your lap asking for having sex with you in exchange of small money.

    1) Know the place / clubs / coffee spots you are going to. Do your homework. If not, get burnt, Kiev is not going to make it super easy for anyone.

    2) Be patient, you might not succeed in the first attempt, but don't behave desperate, be cool and behave as if you are not talking to the girl to get her to bed. Talk to her as if you genuinely are interested in something else other than the girl you are talking to. Most likely, she will sense that you are harmless and will put her guards down.

    3) Kiev is really cheap (I feel this since I live in Norway), enjoy this purchase power on something else apart from sex, while looking for sex.

    The point is, don't be desperate and don't behave desperate. If you are, then go to expensive take out options, where the girls are waiting for you to come and pick her. After 2 decades of mongers flooding Ukraine, you think that girls do not know about why a tourist is trying to talk to a strange girl? They know, you have to make the conversation past that. I totally understand that not everyone is extrovert enough to do this. But then, guys who are introverts will have about 30% (yes, pulling the number from my hat) more chance than you country. Its not like you go to a girl, talk and she will fall into your lap (never going to happen, unless you make her think past the sex tourist question in her head).

    My final request, stop all the negativity about this place, reader will get a negative vibe about Kiev and might backoff. This place is really nice, in all aspects. Purchase power / girls / clubs / food / energy. Just go there and sample them all.
    Excellent. Can't agree more with you.

  8. #18393
    Relationships. Relationships. Relationships.

    Go to Germany if it's all about sticking your dick in a hole.

    Most go in the search of Relationship, nearly impossible now. I know what the girls say all, "Ukraine Guys are Bad. " Just not the case, most very nice, deep down 95% of the girls want a Ukraine Guy. Germany or Mexico much better options. For Relationships Russia.

  9. #18392
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Mostly used: Uber, Yandex Taxi, Red Taxi. All three have smartphone apps. Enough for placing an order. Many drivers speak basic English. Or you can use Google translator.

    I liked Red Taxi. Not sure which is better price wise, as some used mileage traveled and others used time by passenger inside the car, so incurred expense could vary depending on traffic congestion.
    You forgot a big provider: Uklon.

    https://www.uklon.com.ua/

    Older and more widespread than Uber or Yandex.

    Uber has lost a lot of money in the last two years in Ukraine.

    There were tons of subsidies for taxi drivers.

    This year, Uber and Yandex want to make money.

    Uklon costs the taxi drivers 10 percent commission.

    Uber 20 to 30 percent.

    That's why there are more and more frauds with the Uber App.

    Because taxi drivers want to earn as much with Uber as they did in the past.

  10. #18391
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan7  [View Original Post]
    What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.
    Mostly used: Uber, Yandex Taxi, Red Taxi. All three have smartphone apps. Enough for placing an order. Many drivers speak basic English. Or you can use Google translator.

    I liked Red Taxi. Not sure which is better price wise, as some used mileage traveled and others used time by passenger inside the car, so incurred expense could vary depending on traffic congestion.

  11. #18390
    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]

    Younger girls stay with us older guys as long as we provide, and as Riina explained in not so many words girls have certain expectations at this commercial market. No freebies. They are great actresses. We are not Romeos for them. We are milked with different degree of intensity. Don't let them squeeze you dry.
    Wise words, their's really no freebies for us older guys in Kiev. 99% of the contact we have with significantly younger girls is for money. If a girl just wants a good fuck, she's better off going to a bar and finding a young hard dick she can bang raw and without the risk of shame from dating grown up men.

  12. #18389
    Which club do you think is a better hooker club, shooters or Caribbean?

    I'm staying not far from Caribbean, 20 minutes walk.

    Both are bad, Caribbean slightly better. Expect to pay between $100-200. Shooters a little more.

  13. #18388
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan7  [View Original Post]
    What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.
    Either a taxi or a Uber. The taxi drivers basically English ok.

  14. #18387
    Which club do you think is a better hooker club, shooters or Caribbean?

    I'm staying not far from Caribbean, 20 minutes walk.

  15. #18386
    What taxi service do you use in Kiev? Prefer English speaking dispatchers.

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