Kyiv

[Member #4722]

Can any one please share what are the asking rates of Mamba Girls going on nowadays and on what amount they do settle down.

Please.

It's mostly independents on mamba they all have different requirements.

[Womaniszer]

Can any one please share what are the asking rates of Mamba Girls going on nowadays and on what amount they do settle down.

Please.

[JokerToker]

I do have a tip for you that want an alternative to Mamba and Tinder. Fdating is a totally free international dating site, from my experience almost free of scam-girls.

Most of the girls are from Russia and Ukraine and there can be over 1000 girls online an evening. There are many, many from Kiev.

It works best with a computer, its not an app.

[Llkkjj]

Thanks, last year I was at the one in arena city, the girls seems friendly, private dance was very good and price seems to be fair, for for how much, I think its was like 300 - 500 for 2 dances.

Want to go back next week and try to hook up with some of them. But no idea if its allowed or not, remembered there was a girl with huge tits and she was giving it all in the lapdance.

Last time I was accompanied by a Ukrainian guide, and invited them to come next to me and I had like 3 girls chatting with me, seemed really friendly, offered to buy them some drinks.

But scared if I go alone this time, would this try to order something really expensive and if offer them a drink?

Warning: my info is dated.

Hotel wouldn't mind you bringing the girls. Checking them out from any of the Nosorogs (Golden, Star, Mint) is another story. The best I could manage 7-10 years ago was to get the beauty's phone number, she agreed to meet me later in the week, and then never responded.

Dancing is not considered by the girls as something as bad, and they take a special pride in separating punters from the money by selling the promise of an ultimate prize without sacrificing it.

I surely had the best lap dances at Star Rhino, lots of touching. It must have been at a different location in Solomenka back then. It is in Podol, no idea how good it is, and if check out is allowed now.

[PhotoSlider]

Hi,

Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my hotel from strip clubs such as Zolotoy nosorog, and what it might cost?

Warning: my info is dated.

Hotel wouldn't mind you bringing the girls. Checking them out from any of the Nosorogs (Golden, Star, Mint) is another story. The best I could manage 7-10 years ago was to get the beauty's phone number, she agreed to meet me later in the week, and then never responded.

Dancing is not considered by the girls as something as bad, and they take a special pride in separating punters from the money by selling the promise of an ultimate prize without sacrificing it.

I surely had the best lap dances at Star Rhino, lots of touching. It must have been at a different location in Solomenka back then. It is in Podol, no idea how good it is, and if check out is allowed now.

[Llkkjj]

Hi,

Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my hotel from strip clubs such as Zolotoy nosorog, and what it might cost?

[Kozerog]

Forgot to mention. Get the VIP option on Mamba so you can view whether girls are seeking sponsor or not, since those are the girls to focus on if you are a monger. Payment using the Android app and Google pay (or equivalent in iOS) is probably safest. I paid $12 for 3 months. You have to subscribe for recurring payments, but Google pay allows you to immediately cancel the subscription effective after the 3 months is up. If you pay with the website, who knows what hassles Mamba will cause.

[Kozerog]

I use mainly Mamba to meet girls.

I used Mamba 2 years ago and had such a frustrating experience using the service itself, to speak nothing of hassles with the girls, that I didn't even try last summer. Based on all the positive reviews on this forum, I just set up another account, setting my age at 47 or 15 years younger than real age because I know girls often set 50 as a hard cut-off. Mamba immediately screwed up my password so that I had to do a reset, and then more problems uploading photos. I wanted my handstand photo to show I'm not a fatty, but that is a profile and not frontal view, which is evidently not allowed, though the rules don't say that. Finally got the damn thing working. Mobile app actually not that bad, much better than I recall from 2 years ago.

Mamba is clearly the best place to find working girls in Kiev, much better than ukrgo, that's for sure. I'm not sure what the rules are for discussing prices, so I bounced my first prospect to Viber for explicit price talk. Accepted my initial offer of 3000+taxi for 3 hours. I suspect she is an agency, however. I'm getting pretty good at spotting these.

Probably won't follow up on any prospects. I've lost my sense of adventure and would just as soon stick with my tried and tested jewel. In my report below I said my feelings for her were akin to fatherly love for the daughter he never had. I meant grandfather and granddaughter LOL, since the age difference is almost 40 years.

Bottom line, newbies and experienced hands alike should probably focus on Mamba. Read the forum for all the pitfalls associated with buying (or renting, I should say) sight unseen. I'm going to insist on Viber video chat first if I ever need to replace the jewel. Meet on a street corner and walk away if they aren't what was advertised (I would walk towards to the district police station 100 meters away from my apartment, good luck with some goon threatening me on the sidewalk there). Insist on money on table until end of session, in case services not provided as advertised.

[Member #4722]

Planning my first trip to Ukraine, I usually do Colombia but I want a change. Are websites reliable? Are the girls on these sites like Kiev Relax real? The going rate seems to be about 50 euros an hour, is that right? Are there better deals to be had?

Is there a list on this forum? A list of brothels, strip clubs and places to hookup? Any mongering hotels?

Would someone please point me to some sort of guide or summary reference about the scene in Ukraine? Referrals to girls in Kiev would be appreciated, facebook info or any other app contact info for girls.

Thank you guys.

There is no list or Cliffs Notes for Kiev. Your best bet is to set aside a couple hours to read back into the forum. But there is a lot of conflicting opinions so it's difficult to figure out what is real or not.

I use mainly Mamba to meet girls. I have met a couple out at clubs. I have used Gia escort agency but they have been shut down recently. I have gone to Rio strip club and they have many beautiful women but its expensive ($300 takeout for 2-3 hours). I haven't tried any agencies but from reading on here you are 75% likely to not meet the girl in the picture. But I'm not incredibly picky so unless she is ugly or fat I am probably game to give her a whirl. I think eastern european women in general are most beautiful so even when I had bait and switch once she was pretty and it turned out to be a pretty good session. Last summer on mamba I met some 7's and one 8 and all the sessions were pretty good. All but one of the girls was the one in the picture.

[DramaFree11]

Be prepared there is a lot of bait and switch. Gia was best site, but they are gone.

Planning my first trip to Ukraine, I usually do Colombia but I want a change. Are websites reliable? Are the girls on these sites like Kiev Relax real? The going rate seems to be about 50 euros an hour, is that right? Are there better deals to be had?

Is there a list on this forum? A list of brothels, strip clubs and places to hookup? Any mongering hotels?

Would someone please point me to some sort of guide or summary reference about the scene in Ukraine? Referrals to girls in Kiev would be appreciated, facebook info or any other app contact info for girls.

Thank you guys.

[DramaFree11]

Here we have to deal with several problems. First Kiev itself is quite an expensive city and life in the capital is always a little more expensive than life in the province. One thing to live in New York and another thing somewhere in the state of Dakota or Nebraska. For Ukrainians, life in Kiev is like for an American life in New York. Naturally a nice American girl who sometimes sucked a dick in a Nebraska to have an addition to a scholarship. She in New York will do it for another price. Just for that the reason that rental housing in Nebraska and New York as I suspect different. Accordingly, her blowjob in the capital should be more expensive. Respectively, foreigners were initially placed in Ukraine in an uneasy situation. The infrastructure of the country is not developed. The province frightens many foreigners. A lot of Italians. Who have long massively married Ukrainian girls and you can see an Italian guy in the center of a relatively small city in the summer. But the reason for this is a banal-a huge amount of Ukr women for 20 years working in Italy. So there are so many contacts of Italian-Ukrainian. So there are so many mixed families. Many guys from Italy after leaving pension buy villas in the Ukrainian province and enjoy sex with a 34 year old lonely MILF and life in a poor country. This guys are 50-60 years old.

Kiev is not expensive at all, only if you choose to make it.

In Italy as well as in Ukraine there is crime. For example in Sicily. One word these Italian guys came in Ukraine from other, Ukraine, only more rich. But not every guy from Finland or Canada will agree to go to the Ukrainian province. The maximum is Kiev. That is, the infrastructure of sex is not developed. For example, we see that in Colombia there is Medellin and many other sweet places. Where there are many Americans and Canadians. In Ukraine it is mostly Kiev. Odessa and Kharkov are mostly driven by guys from Turkey. They also like lately in Lviv. This is the same phenomenon that in Russia. In Russia, the mass of beautiful and relatively accessible women. But how to fuck them if they live in the Tver. Or Rostov. Or Smolensk. But who will go to fuck in an unfamiliar city Rostow? And where are the guarantees that you will not be robbed? If you are a Russian who earned good money in the US and came to his homeland as an American and a sex tourist, then of course in his native Russia you can create yourself a sexual paradise. In a city like Rostov or Krasnodar. These are big cities. About a million inhabitants. There is a choice. And pros and students and schoolgirls and lonely MILF. But many guys from Canada will be so insane or brave to go to Rostov? But all these girls when they arrive in Moscow they change and automatically raise their price-like in Ukraine. And you better go to the German FKK club and there to fuck two silly Romanian peasant girls than to go so far to Moscow. Besides you will need visa to get to Russia. And of course many guys will choose FKKK club, and it's understandable.

The second problem is visa-free regime for Ukrainian girls. A girl who 6/10 in UA somewhere in Poland will be solid 8/10 -the Ukrainian, Six, is the Polish, Eight, and she just needs to create an account on the site of intimate acquaintances. And if in Ukraine she sucked and swallowed for 500 hryvnia then in Poland she will have several times more for the same.

Sorry, a 6 is a six, Girls in Kiev are just not that attractive, why would they be more attractive in another country.

Poland made it easier for Ukrainians to access their labor market and now you can hear the Ukrainian language in every store or cafe. Everywhere you will see an Ukrainian waitress or barman. I know a guy who had problems with the staff. A lot of young people left Poland for western Europe. As is well known. He had an interview with a new salesman. He owns several clothing stores. He gave an announcement and the girl called with an accent. She came for an interview. She was Ukrainian. Pretty enough. This guy is my friend and he showed me this girl. He loves humor and various jokes and asked her whether she knows the art of head massage. Because he recently often has a headache. It was a joke. She liked the financial conditions and she started working in the store. He saw that despite the accent she is a good seller and knows how to work with buyers. She is never late and punctual. This guy is 46 years old and he has a little fat on his stomach and he's not Brad Pitt, but she treated him like a boss. With respect. When she received the first money he invited her to his office and asked her whether she liked the new job and the conditions. She answered that she likes to work in his company. In the evening he saw how she goes alone after work and offered her a ride on his car to the subway. Or to her house. If she wants. She agreed and sat in the car. They chatted and laughed at different topics and then he could not restrain himself and put his hand on her naked knee. It was near her house. She politely removed his hand. He told me that he was a little upset but then a very pleasant event happened. She obviously realized that the situation requires some sort of decision. And the boss can take offense at her. For some minutes she was silent and then took his finger in her mouth and began to suck. It was a clear allusion to the way out of the difficult situation. As we understand. The next day he asked to help him in the evening after work, and she understood everything. He closed the store and she came to the office and did everything as needed and even better. He told me that she fucking well sucks. And that he was happy to find such a responsible and punctual worker. Sometimes he fucks her right in the car. He chooses a secluded place where not so many people and takes off with no panties and hard fucks her and then cums in her mouth. After that they say goodbye. A good worker. He jokes that now he wants in all his shops to change personnel and recruit only Ukrainian girls to work.

Girls always raise prices when they understand that they can have more. These are two sisters. I fucked them. One my Ukrainian friend introduced us as that. It's a few hours from Kiev. A medium-sized city.

My friend told me that first they fucked with the guys just for free. For the opportunity to eat a bit in a nightclub and drink a cocktail. Then in 2015 they started to take for sex about 200-300 hryvnia. A year later when these girls realized that many local guys want sex, they began to demand 400-500 hryvnia. Now they want 900-1000 hryvnia for several hours together. You see that the demand automatically raises the price. (they nicknamed me as a sniper because I somehow got sperm in the eye of older sister. We were in bed three). But of course this is not Kiev. It's a relatively poor depressive city where low salaries.

[Vatore007]

Planning my first trip to Ukraine, I usually do Colombia but I want a change. Are websites reliable? Are the girls on these sites like Kiev Relax real? The going rate seems to be about 50 euros an hour, is that right? Are there better deals to be had?

Is there a list on this forum? A list of brothels, strip clubs and places to hookup? Any mongering hotels?

Would someone please point me to some sort of guide or summary reference about the scene in Ukraine? Referrals to girls in Kiev would be appreciated, facebook info or any other app contact info for girls.

Thank you guys.

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Riina about Kozerog.

Thank you. I find your posts insightful.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Essays by Kozerog bring sanity, honesty and sincerity to this Forum. JyMondor, Stevie69, Riina and few others are objective and very helpful, yet Kozerog, while romantic, seemingly naive, and certainly respectful, provides realistic approach. Makes me think harder about what I should adjust during next visit.

Thank you much for sharing.

[JokerToker]

So I booked a trip, but the negativity here scared me a little. I thought it would be easy finding tons of girls for small money in a country like Ukraine.

But, I paid for Mamba today and I calmed myself down. It seems to be very easy finding some dates there, I got in contact with several right away.

Many are obvious hookers, and I guess they try to screw me with expensive services.

But I guess with a little common sense I'll be alright and have a nice time on my vacation. I'm Swedish if my sleeping is wrong here and there.

[Riina]

I'm not sure I'm that much of an expert. My jewel does not have BPD or addictions. On the contrary, she is very level headed and emotionally disciplined. Last year, she was a bit hesitant about opening up emotionally, because why bother for a short term relationship? But now that I'm here a second summer, she is more trusting. I am also very emotionally disciplined, so we have that in common.

Self discipline and ambition like hers is rare in girls early 20's. She took to escorting because it is the best money she could get (her degree is civil engineering, but salaries are low and she'd probably have to sleep with the boss to get a job), but she refuses difficult clients so as to preserve herself emotionally. I believe she is saving and buying land in her village with money she earns from escorting. Lives with her sister to save money.

I would imagine that most girls open to sex with older men for money, whether in Ukraine or elsewhere, are not so business-like and disciplined as my jewel, but rather flaky as western girls. Flaky is close to BPD and a big turnoff for me. I'll take the level headed HB7 single mother in her 30's any day over the HB10 19 yo hottie with entitled and disrespectful attitude. I'd much rather be alone than put up with difficult women, regardless of their beauty.

Thank you. I find your posts insightful.