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04-30-18 20:52 #18158
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by RollBuzz [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by RollBuzz [View Original Post]
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04-30-18 16:59 #18157
Posts: 264The importance of being Russian speaking
It's much more fun shagging in a squeking bed! But maybe this is only my peculiarity. There are so many things that are personal preferences, and one does not fit all. Remember.
Jymondor, you wrote a very detailed report, which will help many travellers, if it will probably soon be outdated. Three of six girls from March-report have disappeared in four weeks or less. Do the girls really Leave so quickly?
Then, it's also good to remember that you speak good russian and are able to chat up the girls. Do they speak good enough English for pleasant conversation? It changes a lot for the chemistry to be able to understand what they say, and explain your wishes in a proper manner.
I am busy learning russian and still must try and find girls that speak decent English, when I go for mongering in Kiev. Everything else soon becomes very awkward and annoying.
I always go to the same landlord called Valerio and he knows my wishes.
Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
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04-30-18 16:55 #18156
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
I think I read recently that through the month of May until June 01 most of downtown Kiev and around will have no hot water. That is earlier than usual. To be confirmed.
I always ask to supply four bath towels. The standard is two. This is not enough if you want to see the girls every day.
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04-30-18 12:32 #18155
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by DaMonger [View Original Post]
Make sure that backup water heater is there. It is possible that no hot water in city water supply. The backup water heater would help. Make sure if the floor is 3rd or higher there is an elevator. Girls become angry after climbing on the fifth floor of the old building with 3.5 m ceilings.
I always ask to supply four bath towels. The standard is two. This is not enough if you want to see the girls every day.
Also carefully read reviews and avoid apartments where the beds reported as squeaking.
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04-30-18 04:13 #18154
Posts: 51Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
From their website, prices are on the high end but we all know between Time, Money & Looks - The less you have of one you need more of the others.
Airbnb or Hotel. Would you guys recommend one over the other? Women walking in and out of a family apartment complexes might pose a problem. If anyone has recommendations of a stay, please let me know.
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04-29-18 18:28 #18153
Posts: 1Erotic Massage Parlors.
I see there are erotic massage parlors all around Kiev, anybody know if there is FS available at them? It seems some are more strict than others but not sure if some are just a front.
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04-29-18 09:09 #18152
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Visal [View Original Post]
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04-29-18 03:01 #18151
Posts: 114That's cool information you shared Jyomondor.
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04-29-18 00:06 #18150
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by Rog123 [View Original Post]
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04-28-18 18:57 #18149
Posts: 597Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
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04-28-18 18:42 #18148
Posts: 114I see that Dramafree11 is right. The best girls have left Ukraine for better money in Poland.
Check https://www.mamba.ru/mb1709615041?sp=2.
In my view, she is the best girl on mamba and she has left to Poland to work.
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04-28-18 15:55 #18147
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by Rog123 [View Original Post]
Nuru powder: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1. (currently out of stock, but they resupply every couple of weeks)
Cheap vinyl fitted mattre protector (good for 2-3 times, I took two): https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mainstays...ector/35486231.
Use water bottle for preparing nuru gel.
Easy.
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04-28-18 15:22 #18146
Posts: 597Thanks
Thanks for the excellent report. I am more of a budget monger but will for sure be contacting Gia once at least during my next visit. The problem is that if you have a limited budget it hurts worse when you pick a dud.
Love nuru as well but it seems like it would be a real hassle to travel with the supplies.
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04-28-18 12:56 #18145
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Danim [View Original Post]
Gave him $50 the first time, he asked for $50-100. Returned to Kiev for my second trip, hoping that maybe that extra money would make him bring me even better girls, but no difference. Asked about a special request, but he did not manage to fix that. After that trip he asked for $100 and I refused, then he started going on that he thought we were friends etc. Maybe he saw me as an easy target, but keep your guard up. Just my friendly tip.
Third trip coming up this summer. Have some normal girls there who I still keep in touch with so looking forward to it! None of the girls Andrei brought me really tempted me for a repeat even though they were acceptable.
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04-27-18 23:09 #18144
Posts: 1065April tour in Kiev
After publishing my brief March report, I receive many PMs asking questions about GIA girls. Instead of answering new PMs, I would rather publish a detailed report, which helps mongers to choose the right girl in Kyiv. Boring long-haul overseas flight is the perfect time for that kind of writing. At the bottom of my report, I copy-pasted my brief March tour review to keep it together for the reader's convenience.
Exciting March tour makes me travelling to Kyiv again. Same as in March I concentrated on the GIA girls because as I already mentioned, in my opinion, GIA is the ONLY reliable agency in Kyiv. Therefore, I did not even try any other options. Currently, GIA features 44 girls. Three girls I've already seen Alexa, Kristina and Dominika, are not listed anymore. It means that I had 38 girls to choose for my nine-days venue. It is more than enough.
Reading my reports please note, that I rate the girls comparing GIA girls to the GIA girls. The general base of the comparison is much higher than the Kyiv average. Therefore, if girl rated 6/10 in my report, it could be equal to 10/10 comparing to the girls from the suspicious ad sites. I cannot say anything about sugar babies with the multi-day arrangements because this is not my cup of tea.
Also, except maybe Dominika no girls in GIA (I would say overall in Kyiv) provide the world level skills. Ukrainian girls are not the pro at all. I can define GIA girls as the advanced amateurs. In Kiev, I did not get service as skilled as I get from German FKK stars like for example Mia, Mandy, Paloma, Gloria. I am not even talking about vanished Moyra or Eva (all FKK Sharks, Darmstadt). Dominika was the only exception. However, in Kyiv, I do not look for the pure skills.
Long session with GIA girls feels more like a date with the girlfriend. Look at this from that consideration: do you expect pro technique from the girlfriend? I do not. I would say even more: if my GF performed gagging DT like Gloria or acrobatic GREEK like Eva, I would have a few questions about her past. In short, I compare skills GIA girls to GIA girls as well. It would be higher base than Kyiv average but lower than the world level.
As you already possibly realized I do not make a correlation between the good session and the skilled service. In Kyiv, I estimate general performance by the chemistry and GFE feeling.
I estimate girls' conversational skills in Russian. I have no Idea how they would speak English.
I do not provide girls' stats since they are accurate on the GIA website. Maybe add 5-10% to the age of some girls, but physical stats are fair.
I do not disclose my $$ damage because it is quite a sensitive thing in relations between GIA girls and GIA management. Instead, I indicate the duration of the date and extras, so everyone who cares can figure it out since all prices indicated on GIA website.
This time I brought with me authentic Japanese Nuru powder and waterproof fitted bedsheet. I played Nuru with the girls who agreed to do that, and I was willing to do that.
One more consideration. All my reviews based on three or four-hour sessions. I cannot say what to expect from one-hour quickies.
I guess that the members of this forum understand all abbreviations. If not, please see the explanations here: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=Abbreviations.
Day #1. April 14th. Tatyana.
Rather milfy, soft body. Decent service: DFK, BBBJ with DT attempts, but no real DT, lots of BLS, FS, DATY, FIV, no GREEK but FIA, Pussy Slide. Everything was OK. I would assume that Tatyana did not work for a couple of days before our session because she orgasmed intensively few times. She is not a great talker, by that reason the chatting break was short and started long and exhausted round two. The session with Tatiana was rather soft PSE. She is not real GFE, no initiative but she followed all my requests. She did not express interest in Nuru video, so I did not insist.
Body 6/10.
Face 6/10.
Performance 7/10 (PSE).
Service: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, some DT, BLS, POS, FS / MPOS.
Duration: 4 hrs.
Repeat factor medium.
Day #2. April 15th. Mila.
Oh boy, she is a delightful treat! As Mila entered, my jaw dropped. Incredibly exotic. Unbelievably cute and sweet. Firm Asian-style body with the small very attractive breast, virtually no waist, Asian-type flat ass. In other words real Korean chan. Her face looked innocent. Body is firm, smells like heaven. Cheerful attitude. I was so impressed with her killing look, so I took about 40 min for talking and drinking with her before she took a shower. I reside in Toronto and have seen many oriental gals. There is a decent selection of the girls from all Oriental countries in the escorts and parlours. On average they are more affordable than Caucasian, black or mulatto girls. I get used to Oriental girls, but in spite of that, Mila still looked exotic to me.
Sure, I did not expect pro technique from that young wonder. Mila's arsenal is quite limited, but she compensated that with her diligence and willingness to please.
As you possibly know, Nuru is a very Japanese thing, so it makes a sense to conclude that oriental girls are the most suitable for this practice. I couldn't miss that chance. After watching Nuru video of Asa Akira, Mila agreed to try. Nuru play was a feature of the whole session. She was laughing, screaming, moaning. We were playing, caressing each other and cuddling. Mila liked that. After the Nuru gel gets cold, we took a shower together. Also very sweet experience. Second round. I cum both times in the mish to see those hazel eyes.
Body 8/10 (not a model but very cute chan type).
Face 8/10 (but so-o-o cute).
Performance 8/10 (True GFE).
Service: DFK, DATY, BBBJ, FIV, FS / MPOS, POS, BS, Nuru.
Duration: 3 hrs.
Repeat factor: oh hell, yes!
Day #3. April 16th. Dasha and Ksusha.
Dasha is only GIA girls I sent home after one hour. She refused DFK in spite of it listed in her profile. She said it was a mistake. Now GIA website suggests that Dasha does not kiss. Nevertheless, even after that, I cannot say anything bad about Dasha. She is young and good-looking. There is something in her look from youth counterculture. She got some nice tattoos, piercing, and tunnels. I liked her appearance and started on the sofa talking, drinking and offering her some treats. After half an hour, she took a shower. As I attempted to kiss her, she turned her face off, telling that she never kiss when working.
I performed non-responsive DATY. She performed soft BBBJ. I hardly got an erection and did her in mish and doggy, but did not cum. Lack of DFK is a deal breaker for me. However, I still can recommend Dasha to thus who does not require DFK. She is a slender young beauty somewhat of the model type. Perfect find for the Optickfickers. I would say it was GIA's fault since they published the wrong list of services. It is a girl's choice to kiss or not to kiss.
GIA provided me 2,000 UAH discount for the next girls due to the ruined session. I hope this discount falls on the GIA's share, not on Dasha's. Again, I got no negative impression on Dasha.
Body 8/10.
Face 7/10.
Performance 2/10 (no DFK).
Service: BBBJ, DATY, FIV, FS.
Duration: 1 HR.
Repeat factor: Not now, but if she will provide DFK maybe.
After frustration with Dasha, I needed something special. As I closed the door after Dasha, I called GIA asking if Ksusha is available.
Ksusha.
Ksusha is one of the best (if not the best) reviewed GIA girl. Booking her, I already expected exciting session, but Ksusha exceeds my expectation. As she entered my door, she was shining with her happiness and excitement. Her smile was so open and sincere, so I could not resist and hug her immediately while she was in her street jacket.
I cannot define what type of session it was. It was one of the best GFE sessions, I remember, but it was many PSE elements either. We did many things. Lots of kissing and caressing, multiple positions, BBBJ with DT attempt. I even tried FF (Face Fucking). She accepted it well but not at the full length. We found the point where I had to restrict penetration into her throat. The most excited that during the breath breaks she keeps smiling and laughing. Even such a PSE element as FF looked like GFE play with her. Orgasming she can weep with the real tears, but after a few seconds smile and laugh again. Very emotional girl.
She is a stretched and flexible spinner, so Nuru session went above expectation. She liked it. I even warmed up the second load of the Nuru gel because she wanted more. After the sensual shower for two, we started the second round.
We had a long conversation between the rounds with the sparkling Martini, finger food and sweets I prepared. From those conversations, I understood that she likes what she does and values her job with GIA. It is a rare case when the girl works not just for money but for the pleasure as well. Rare and precious gem.
Body 8/10 (teenage type petite spinner with the small breast. My type. Model and big breast lovers might consider it overrated, but she is totally in my test).
Face 7/10 (GND level, but when she smiles she is beautiful, and she smiles always).
Performance 10/10 (Real GFE with PSE elements. Level "Once in a lifetime".
Service: BBBJ, DT, FF, DATY, FIV (no FIA), FS / MPOS, POS, BS, Nuru.
Duration: 4 hrs.
Repeat factor: I already repeated. I booked Ksusha for my last day as the featured final of the whole venue. Will I repeat more? Sure. Many times.
Day #4. April 17th. Alla.
Alla was not lucky following outstanding session with Ksusha. It is hard to judge her fair enough while I keep in the brain fresh memoirs about the fabulous time with Ksusha. Besides, Alla is a different type of woman. While Ksusha is a kind of cheerful teenager, Alla is an adult experienced woman. Alla is more womanly than Ksusha. She smells like a woman and feels like a woman. Alla did everything right. Her orgasms were real and intensive. High-quality service from the good-looking woman. If you are lazy and prefer to lay back and let the woman do all the things, Alla would be a good choice.
Alla was so confident in what she is doing so I did not expect that she would want to try Nuru. Nevertheless, she wanted, and we did it. She liked it but not with that excitement like Mila or Ksusha.
Body 7/10 (a womanly type of body).
Face 7/10 (GND level, but she is skilled in the makeup. Makeup makes her look much nicer).
Performance 7/10 (Quality GFE with no PSE, rather plain without some individual zest).
Service: BBBJ, BLS, DATY, FIV, FS / MPOS, Nuru.
Duration: 4 hrs.
Repeat factor: Not likely. GIA has 44 girls, and few girls already in my must-to-repeat list.
Day #5. April 19th. Katia.
I skipped one day due to local travel for business. On Thursday, April 19th Katia wasn't the first pick on my list. Two girls were not available, and my choice finally falls on Katia. Gosh, it was a jackpot. I don't even want to think that it was a high chance that I will never meet Katia. She has only four poor pictures in her profile that do not reflect her beauty. She listed as a new girl and has no reports at any resource I know. Booking Katia was gambling with the obscurity. I did not expect anything special.
First of all, as I found in between-the-rounds conversation, she works in the strip club at the 8th floor of the Premier Palace hotel. The most expensive and most prestigious strip-club in Kyiv. As she said, she is a professional strip dancer. I did not ask her for the lap dance, but I could see how flexible and gracious she is. Katia is the girls I can apply epithet "classy. ".
I cannot say what session was better, with Ksusha or with Katia. GFE-wise maybe with Ksusha, but a PSE-wise session with Katia was one of the best if not the best in my mongering history. We did all abbreviations I liked: passionate DFK, responsive DATY, intensive two-finger DIGITS leading to wet orgasms, slobby BBJ with DT, FF with no restrictions and long actions between her breath-breaks, multiple position FS alternating with GREEK. FIA while FS and FIV while GREEK. Mind-Blowing.
Nuru is a massage technique. Performing sex is not practically doable due to slippery and lack of support for knees or elbows. However, Katia managed sex with Nuru. Her stretched trained body allows doing that. Four hours passed as an eye blink.
Body 8/10 (a womanly & athletic type of body).
Face 9/10.
Performance 10+/10 (Unique combination of sensual GFE and vigorous PSE.).
Service: BBBJ, BLS, DT, FF, DATY, FIV, FIA, FS / MPOS, GREEK / MPOS, BS, Nuru (in short, complete set of abbreviations I could desire).
Duration: 4 hrs + GREEK.
Repeat factor: oh, hell, yes. I tried to book her again, but she was not available.
Day #6. April 20th. Repeat with indy girls Nastya. Nothing to add to the March report. Will repeat.
Day #7. April 21st. Varvara.
I was hunting for Varvara three days, but she was not available. Finally, she entered my room. Well. She is very special kind of the girls. I bit strange in the good meaning of that word. She is a little bit out of there. It is hard to understand what is going on in her head. Her grey eyes are deep, but sight is a bit distant. Her voice is low, and for that reason, she sounds sexy. She can freeze in long sensual hug breathing into my neck, and this blows my mind.
She is the first girl in Kyiv who did not close the bathroom door and shower curtain and let me see her showering. Her body is 10/10. It is girly, youthful, slender and stunning. She got nice tint from the solarium. When her skin is wet, she looks shiny and gorgeous. Wet Varvara is one of the most beautiful things you could see in your life.
Very remarkable face. Beautiful but not cute. Type of the Snow Queen. A bit cold and distant. Varvara has a minor scar on her cheek, but this makes her even more mysterious. She wears braces on her teeth, and her smile looks little weird and intriguing. I could see some signs of the gothic counterculture in her appearance, but she did not confirm that. Instead, she said that the small devils live in her head and I could believe in that. Varvara confesses that she has the Gypsy blood in her veins. It could partially explain her mystery. Now she is a brunette, and I believe that black hair suits her better than dirty blond as on the pictures in her profile.
Her feature is DFK. She kisses deep with the breath exchange but not very deep tongue. A bit strange but very pleasant.
Performance? Do you still care about her performance after all written above? I don't.
Body 9. 5/10 (1/2 points deducted due to her feet. Nothing wrong with her feet but ten means ten. Nevertheless, the body itself is firm 10 in my test.).
Face 9/10.
Performance 7/10 (Neither GFE nor PSE. Something her individual).
Service: BBBJ, DATY, FIV, FS.
Duration: 4 hrs.
Repeat factor: Definitely yes. I have not solved her Gypsy riddle yet. She is still mysterious to me and very desirable.
Day #8. April 22nd. Marta.
Marta was not my first pick. I desired Katia again, but she was not available. After I wanted Alisa, Tonya or Diana, but no luck. I guess that Sunday is not the best day for hunting girls with GIA.
As stated in Marta's profile she is 180 cm tall. I am 178. It is not common to me booking girls taller than me except some mulatto or black beauties in Toronto. Surprisingly I feel no any discomfort with her height. First, she is very proportional. She is tall, but I can call her body neither a model type nor a GND. She is the type of the Ukrainian folk beauty. Both body and face. You know that type of the Ukrainian country girls you could see on the posters wearing traditional vishivanka and flower diadem with the colour ribbons around the head. That healthy full of life type of women. As they say in Ukraine "blood with milk".
Attitude is very similar to her look. Confident, proud, self-respect. True Ukrainian girl. This girl is the must for the foreigners who want to test real Ukrainian scent. I don't know is she country girl or not, but she feels like a country girl.
Very pleasant high-quality session. I could call it real GFE but it was not mechanical either. It was "right" session. Everything we did was right. She agreed to try Nuru. It was fun sliding over her body since her length allows wide amplitude. After Nuru and sensual shower for two.
I would say Marta demonstrated the best BBBJ+HJ technique in that venue, so I could not resist CIM. The only CIM in that tour. Normally this is not my thing.
Body 8/10.
Face 7/10.
Performance 9/10.
Service: BBBJ, HJ, BLS, CIM, DATY, FIV, FS / MPOS, Nuru.
Duration: 4 hrs + CIM.
Repeat factor: Rather yes.
Day #9. April 23rd. Repeat with Ksusha. Three hours. Nothing to add.
With this report I encourage you to write more reports like that rather than flaming around non-essential matters.
Happy mongering!
Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]