Kyiv

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...I would like to call GIA around 7 pm Or 8 pm To book a girl around 10:45 pm Or 11:15 pm.

I will be the last man! She might be staying and cuddling my cock over night!

She might be. If she falls in love with your masculinity. Or if you arrange a collusion with sufficient payment, and she doesn't have to study or work in the morning.

I prefer renting a 2 bedroom. One for me, one for her, or a solid sofa in the living room, so that my visitors are tempted to stay instead of taking a cab to the dorm or an apartment, shared with a roommate, that they not always like.

FYI: GIA uses very smart billing / accounting, unlike any other agency:

First hour for most affordable GIA ladies rated at 3,500 UAH / HR, at the dinner, performing oral on you in the last row of movie theater, or anywhere else, is $130 (maybe extra for movie tickets, popcorn and $200 surcharge).

First 4 hours recalculate to a substantially lower rate - 7,500 UAH /$276 = $69 - What a number!

The whole 24 hours is 14,500 UAH = $534 or $22/ HR.

If you negotiate upfront, and pay, she might be staying overnight.

If you decide to pay the remaining balance later, she may not.

For example: First 10 hours is 11,500 = $424.14 hours more to complete 24 hours is only $110 more for her. And the idea of being awaken at random hours through the night, and then asked to comply with your morning wood desires, may not be so appealing at less than $8/ HR. I had them saying: "Sorry, I have to work in the morning".

Arranging multiple days is another story, just make sure she's entertained besides making love, and treated as a human being. In my experience firmly assured anticipation of fun, that she sincerely believes in, is somewhat directly proportional to provided quality of services. Sorry, I meant to say "how much she'll fall in love with your personality" (tongue in cheek).

Some fresh newbie from GIA / Rio may simply have few day off and even stay for free with a person she likes (who established himself as a reliable / paying REAL man). Typically they have expenses to cover, you are a provider, even if there's a romantic aura present.

As explained for many years already, transforming interaction from transactional / hourly into a friendly relationship with underlying implicit charity cash flow is the best, as long as you are competitive on the current market. The delta difference dictates what you'll be allowed: an innocent kiss on her cheek, or much much more while departing and upon your next inevitable return.

I wonder if we can create a formula here - $$ + restaurants of certain star rating + iPhone model she would definitely expect from you if it's 2-3 days, and so on and so forth. And how it translates into her being 9-10 in the bed and outside for you.

Forgive my candor please.

[AgentMonger]

Spent some time In Kiev recently, a few months ago. Went for a massage at Dolly's. Location was easy to find. The apartment was OK. But the hot water in the shower didn't really work, it was either cold as ice or 3rd degree burn HOT. You had to dance in the show between "jesus that's cold" and "holy shit that's hot as F". Anyway, before that miserable shower experience I was offered a terrible lineup of 4 girls. Wow, bad, really bad. All 4 were short, fat, and not very attractive. It wasn't exactly prime time I admit, but 4 pm on a Monday, but still. Anyway, being there for not much more than a massage and a happy ending, picked the best of the group and went in for an hour. Terrible massage. Terrible happy ending effort, no additional touching, anywhere, total crap. With the 20 plus options out there in Kiev, I'd pick something other than Dolly.

One redeeming factor. As I was leaving, one girl was finishing up with another massage. And was a stunner! Exactly what I was hoping to find, tall, skinny, blonde. The type of dream we all have when coming to Kiev. Alas. Maybe next time.

Stay safe out there.

[GDreams]

Do you think you have to get a nice apartment or hotel.

My answer is. No hotel.

AirBnB near Kreschatyk street is enough.

I usually fuck 2 or 3 girls a day so, unless you plan to get laid hot hotel front desk girls, avoid hotel.

Local website. I really can't trust.

AirBnB. Maintenance fee. Is a bit pricey for their price. Well, nothing perfect tho. Personally this is my favorite option.

Around 50 USD per day. Is threshold. Expensive when it is above, below. Still good.

I agree, central apartment around Kreshatik is best, no more than 2 streets away and close to either the Independence square end or the Bessarabska Rinok end. I must admit it been a few years since renting apartment but I always received good service from the local agents I used. I was working in Africa and once I came down with malaria while there. The apartment manager organised a doctor to come and see me early in the morning (I rang him at 7 am) and also sent one of their translators to help. That's the sort of service I appreciate.

[Coyle]

You guys are just horny and fantasize your dick with condomless juicy sucking. GIA. Yeah.

One tip, this agency closes at 11 pm After that, you go out on the street and test your luck or other slizzy escort site hoping that you will get amazing blonde with a golden heart.

Hahaha. Don't worry. You are completely normal.

One tip for GIA. Since it closes at 11 pm.

I would like to call GIA around 7 pm Or 8 pm To book a girl around 10:45 pm Or 11:15 pm.

I will be the last man! She might be staying and cuddling my cock over night!

[PhotoSlider]

Hi,

I can see there is a huge selection of girls at UkrGo.com, much more than KievLady. (It's like an Ukrainian version of Craigslist).

What are your experiences with them? The pictures look very real to me.

What is the criteria for pictures to look real? Google reverse Image search? Tineye? Them looking fuzzy selfies?

AFAI could tell quite a few phone numbers are agencies. That's how I found the best working one so far.

Writing a script, that would sift through all the phone numbers for a day, or a week, identifying repeats, then automatically checking corresponding accounts in Viber, WhatsApp and Telegram, would have been ideal.

Ukrgo advantage is in allowing a keyword search. My attempts to find affordable independents resulted in very polite response from older fat ladies, expecting $100+/ HR. I lost the interest, as the Agency fed me well enough.

IMHO good agency organizes a pipeline. And students already have a dorm paid for, regardless of working or not, more or less. Sure they want extra income, and that's the common ground for encounters.

Older independents pay rent, make incalls, and often are their own directors of marketing. Hence ukrgo. Hence fewer customers. Hence higher rates. Some independents are good, but if there's no exposure to wider sphere of interests, then within a year or so they get bored and mechanical.

YMMV. Certainly worth researching.

[AlexGray]

Hi,

I can see there is a huge selection of girls at UkrGo.com, much more than KievLady. (It's like an Ukrainian version of Craigslist).

What are your experiences with them? The pictures look very real to me.

[PhotoSlider]

...It is your sex trip, so you want to avoid meeting entire apartment owner's family to greet you as a member of family. LOL.

There is an apartment in AirBnB. Having a key box with numeric lock so that you don't even get to see the apartment owner. I liked it.

As long as you can contact the landlord easily with questions about hot water, more towels, lost key. God forbid! Etc.

Had a girl, that I have never met before, waiting in the street, while I've been exiting with my taxi driver and landlord's spouse right after check-in. The girl was nice, nobody even blinked.

Had a girl arriving with me from the airport, and checking in with her own suitcase. Asked beforehand if she'd agree to be introduced as our corporate employee. She smiled, and said: "Don't you worry. When we kiss, - she'll understand who we are."

Have returned to the same landlady from theater a week later, all dressed up and a little drunk, with another beauty on my hand. Introduced ladies to each other, and first reaction of landlady (looking at me) was: "You are so great with the bow tie and everything! (She is in mid 30's, and attractive herself).

Had my apartment's cleaning woman, drinking champagne with me, and 2 of my female visitors, before we left for theatre. She actually left first, and we had another hour before leaving.

Had landlady interacting with my girlfriends after my departure on a material basis for many reasons: for instance forgotten high heel stilettos, so called FMS - "fuck me shoes".

Feedback on AirBnB: "Great guest! Never ever any problems. You would enjoy hosting him". I am sure they enjoyed hosting me.

All the above ladies were classy though. It is simply part of Kiev life style. I do not do anything sleezy. Friendly respectful mutually beneficial meetings.

That is why emancipated feminists hate free-spirited Ukrainian ladies with all the power they have left. They see it as impossible to compete with. Ultimate Freedom.

[Coyle]

Do you think you have to get a nice apartment or hotel.

To impress girls for better fuck and get into potential relationship so that you get free sex?

Nope. Rich girls already live in nice apartment. Having rich Ukrainian speaking cocks to suck. No business with you.

Nope. Poor girls with big tits, nice body and blonde. Have you ever seen their housing? Any housing in central Kiev is impressive to them.

They don't care how you live since you are a tourist.

My answer is. No hotel.

AirBnB near Kreschatyk street is enough.

I usually fuck 2 or 3 girls a day so, unless you plan to get laid hot hotel front desk girls, avoid hotel.

Local website. I really can't trust.

AirBnB. Maintenance fee. Is a bit pricey for their price. Well, nothing perfect tho. Personally this is my favorite option.

Around 50 USD per day. Is threshold. Expensive when it is above, below. Still good.

All Ukrainian people know you are in Kiev for sex. Don't worry.

They think we live a poor life since we do nothing but work, no fun or no BJ from Western feminists, surrounded by all fat bitches.

Just check how they check you in. It is your sex trip, so you want to avoid meeting entire apartment owner's family to greet you as a member of family. LOL.

There is an apartment in AirBnB. Having a key box with numeric lock so that you don't even get to see the apartment owner. I liked it.

[Coyle]

Including GIA, all escort sites. No. Basically all encouter in Kiev. Is based on your luck.

Unfortunately, I lost my contact with this beauty. Dang. I can't contact her again either. Sorry.

It's not easy. Blonde girls are hard to earn actually.

Backpage girls are the worst per my experience. They even send you the fake photos via whatsapp. No shame, no sense of honest.

My earlier mistake was. Tried to get GFE out of 1600 hryvna +200 taxi deal.

No. Don't put your emotion first because these girls are not ready to follow your escalated emotional state out of your fantasy yet.

When you meet, check, see if she is good material or not. Greet and welcome lady and get her satisfied with your dick first.

Once your cock is exciting her in her pussy, it is easier to go to next step.

While you are fucking, if she likes you, then you can get kiss, massage, caress, GFE. Not the other way.

Some is easy to bribe with 200 hryvna more for BBBJ. Some never accepts for more service even for 300 USD.

Some just fell for me, don't care about time and money, got me the best service. Every.

Some just sucks. Hard to predict. That's Kiev. Get used to it.

Hi Coyle,

Your post instills some confidence in me regarding relax-Kiev. Do you mind sharing a link or name of the girl you saw mentioned in your report? Thanks.

[Frankfurt]

Hi Coyle,

Your post instills some confidence in me regarding relax-Kiev. Do you mind sharing a link or name of the girl you saw mentioned in your report? Thanks.

Relax-Kiev. Actually, it was standard 1600 hyvna + 200 for taxi deal but this was my best deal. It was a few hours before I went to Boryspil airport so I didn't expect much. But the woman showed up. Couldn't believe my eyes! Such a nice manner, smile, caressing, attentive BJ, great sex. Tight vagina. She stayed even..

[PhotoSlider]

PhotoSlider,

LOL It sounds a bit like the olden days in Kiev with my Friends Inna and Hunter Dave.

"Create your own Paradise!" should be the motto.

[AntonySun1996]

Got deceived by stage height (girls look taller and thinner). I picked her too early and paid too early. She was having pre-woman's day (I hate this smell) Man. Wait. Wait until you see the girls you truly like. You can ask her come to you and talk to her about what she can do for you. If you don't like, choose next!

They look way hotter on the stage than in bed. I myself once got deceived this way in Rio. Picked a 'hottie' there and when we were in hotel, it turned out to me she was not attractive at all. After a few minutes I asked her to go.

[PhotoSlider]

Listen up!

Whatever you do, pressed for time, with lots of money or not enough cash, whoever you meet.

When girls show up, be attentive to how they act. Nice, warming, smile. Usually lead to better sex or cold / blunt / not friendly. Mechanical sex and they usually go away after your first cum. You got to be able to improvise.

And If that was agency delivery, assess the assets while they are still in the cab. Maximize positive impact during your interaction.

Glad I am not the only one who enjoyed.

For a moment I thought I've been daydreaming.

[AntonySun1996]

Some students will leave to their smaller towns and villages for winter break. Some will use it for extensive travel, making money. Not sure about the actual percentage. Last year I left Kiev in the morning of December 31st, didn't feel deprived of female attention. My GF left few days before that, which helped me to score a few.

Well I'd better change my schedule a little bit hahaha.

[Coyle]

Well, stayed for 4 nights and scored 6 girls.

Tried nuru (personally I like this very much), Rio, GIA, Relax-Kiev and picked up a girl from coffee shop.

I would say. It is completely not predictable nor can't rely on money either.

This time, nuru massage girl was amazingly hot, polite, long legs and genuine blonde hair. She was on top of me while giving me HJ and I grabbed her firm ass and did dry hump. She moaned like a real sex and it was, wow. I couldn't believe this HJ by nuru massage can get me such a wonderful pop.

GIA. Was successful. I went quite wild and rough from the beginning. Started sucking her pussy right after kissing, and she was so good at sucking my cock, endless sucking and we did 69, fucked in balcony (quite cold but exciting), and she even put the pillow in front of mirrors and made me look at her while she was giving me head. Wow. Fucked and fucked. (it was her last visit of the day and she seems to really be into me).

RIO. Read a few tips from this forum. Went there around 2:30 am Too late. Got deceived by stage height (girls look taller and thinner). I picked her too early and paid too early. She was having pre-woman's day (I hate this smell) Man. Wait. Wait until you see the girls you truly like. You can ask her come to you and talk to her about what she can do for you. If you don't like, choose next!

Relax-Kiev. Actually, it was standard 1600 hyvna + 200 for taxi deal but this was my best deal. It was a few hours before I went to Boryspil airport so I didn't expect much. But the woman showed up. Couldn't believe my eyes! Such a nice manner, smile, caressing, attentive BJ, great sex. Tight vagina. She stayed even.

Listen up!

Whatever you do, pressed for time, with lots of money or not enough cash, whoever you meet.

When girls show up, be attentive to how they act. Nice, warming, smile. Usually lead to better sex or cold / blunt / not friendly. Mechanical sex and they usually go away after your first cum. You got to be able to improvise.