Kyiv

[Reef LostCause]

Dear mongers,

I wish you luck in mongering wherever you are now.

In March I will be in Kiev and would be glad to have some advices.

First one is Rio Club. As far as I read throughout the topic, it seems to be a take and go place. Is that right? What would be the damage until I agree with one of the ladies to go to my place. Is it a rip-off place.

Takeout for one of the Rio girls in 300 USD for 2-3 hours.

You watch the girls dance on stage, and when you see one you like, you let the boucer know with either a tip for her, a drink or you can also try private dance with her on premises.

If I had taken the one I met on my first night, I'm pretty sure it would have been one of the memorable fuckfests of my life. But I failed to make a decision.

Actually, I waited until my last night to take one home (another one), and she was a waste of time and money.

Sh! T happens, I guess.

[Tomek123]

Agree but in last time Mamba have not perfect reputation site for,working girls. But sometimes normal profile (ordinary girl in ordinary dating site) may also be interested in. She is not looking for a sponsor, but your suggestion makes her interest. But it certainly takes more time. Unfortunately. But unfortunately time is an expensive commodity. For example, I found a few days ago this girl on a regular dating site. For example, I found a few days ago this girl on a regular dating site. I offered her sex in exchange for money. She is not ready to do BBBJ and CIM, oral only in condom and Classic sex. I offer her the 3000 UAH for 1 meeting a few hours. She agreed and asked when I will be in Kiev. She's 19 years old.

[LastPlayer]

Dear mongers,

I wish you luck in mongering wherever you are now.

In March I will be in Kiev and would be glad to have some advices.

First one is Rio Club. As far as I read throughout the topic, it seems to be a take and go place. Is that right? What would be the damage until I agree with one of the ladies to go to my place. Is it a rip-off place.

2nd thing is the escort site relaxkiev. Did anyone try this site? Is it reliable?

Last one is Scarlette Strip Club. Jeka on the forum tried this place and seemed to be satisfied. Is this a place like Rio?

I know I asked a lot but even one advice would work.

[LuisVega11]

I add other consideration who can help.

- as told never send money. This year I did it first time in my life, without knowing the girl. We chat for 2 months. She send me her passport her naked photos. And all for 30 dollar. She insisted so much I was embarrassed not to send. Also couldn't believe a person can spend so much energy for 30 dollar. I decide to send after she video chat naked. Well you know after two days she wrote I not sent. While I had the mail of confirmation from WU that money were picked up. I offended her so much I couldn't believe, this people really change your attitude towards women, and she replied: "You are very bad man." And blocked me. OK one zero for them.). Next use girl I fuck will have problem to walk for some days believe me. Anyway having some good contact to Europe community and workers to various embassy. I will be sure she won't have a schengen visa for long time. Her passport already checked in the black list. So never send nothing not even 1 dollar.

- Second. When you begin chatting, both mamba VK or other stuff. Don't over-chat. Just be sure she wants meet, she gives her number, and stop. Contact her only in Kiev. If you keep chatting every girl will present you with interest for money or a new phone. Clearly every girl will have a broken phone or mom or babucka in hospital. All bullshit. Not write them long and frequently. Just one message every week maximum to keep them alert you coming and stop.

[LuisVega11]

Hello everybody,

I'm back in Ukraine. Friends took me to a strip cabaret Mandarin. Large and long show program, you can watch it, but I do not really. After the show, the girls came out to dance. I found two nines. With a nine went in private. Turley and dancing cool name is Bella. I had a good time. The restaurant is cool dish Duck Beijing. All at a cost $ 500. Includes entrance, more food and drinks, 2 private session and four hours from nine. I think it's not expensive. Impressions heap Bell&; Super.

Who is interested in their web site.

http://www.mandarin.ua/

Not expensive?

From which standard? Sure if you have money to throw from window yes no problem. They literally robbed you. At least the private dance you mean fuck? I doubt you can fuck in this place, I know there, and so you are been completely robbed.

Why foreigners go in a country with a salary of 150 dollar minimum, and spend 500 dollar for nothing in 4 hours is out of my mind.

[Deer1234]

I stayed in Kiev for 2 weeks.

I met some "ladies" in Mamba, whose photos looked really nice.

Most of them were kind, good humored and 30+ aged mothers, with some having a scar in the tummy from caesarian section.

Some of their photos were genuinely theirs, not fake, but apparently taken a decade ago.

I did nothing other than paying them 100 $ politely (for the sake of their children). What could you do, if your civilization trained you to respect mothers?

After donating 100 $ for charity, I went to Caribbean club, which is my favorite place, because it is filled with Turkish people: there is no neo-Nazi there, and I am an asian.

Turkish are friendly to an asian man, as well.

In Caribbean club, I found a very nice-looking tall slim young girl, who seemed to enjoy dancing only.

I was not sure whether she is a pro- or not, and hesitated to talk to her. Meanwhile, she disappeared from my sight. Next time I saw her, she was in a sofa with her client and went out from the club with him. Learning a lesson from this bitter experience, I talked to a party of very beautiful looking girls as soon as I sighted them. Eventually, they were non-pro local girls who were either enjoying dancing or seeking genuinely rich people. This were embarrassing.

It seems that I should employ a guide (or an employee of the club) who helps me in distinguishing between pro and non-pro in the club, as well as taking her out to my apartment.

Are there such guide service, and how much does it cost?

[BobSmith1]

I live in Kiev. There was always a lot of Turkish because they do not need a visa and a cheap flight. From this innovation, their number will not increase, as they previously did not let to come here.

Oh. Now the Turks can get over that passport stamp thing. It's already filled with them now it makes it even easier for them. Damn no wonder the girls are charging San Francisco price. I think SF will be lower the price due the housing price is so high and rent is so high. Normal people already spent all their money on house and rent. I go to 2nd and 3rd cities 1 hour away from SF.

So what now, forget about Kiev and Odessa, Livi etc those well known cities? I think I need to go somewhere less known now.

[Jekalat]

Hello everybody,

I'm back in Ukraine. Friends took me to a strip cabaret Mandarin. Large and long show program, you can watch it, but I do not really. After the show, the girls came out to dance. I found two nines. With a nine went in private. Turley and dancing cool name is Bella. I had a good time. The restaurant is cool dish Duck Beijing. All at a cost $ 500. Includes entrance, more food and drinks, 2 private session and four hours from nine. I think it's not expensive. Impressions heap Bell&; Super.

Who is interested in their web site.

http://www.mandarin.ua/

[Tomek123]

Kiev. Good workhorse 29 years.

[Tomek123]

Prepare a lot of cash. If they not reply in English and you not speak Russian. What do you think they are going out with you?

Asian for many girl there means money. You see lot of Chinese now coming to Kiev and you see them always with nice girl if they are ugly Chinese. They have money and in perception Asian are more generous than western.

Good luck anyway.

But do not forget that Ukrainian girls are not so much worried about the appearance of men it's not quite like western girls. A man who has a little money is a little sexy for them.

[Tomek123]

Kiev. Good workhorse 29 years. My,soldier, sometimes dropped -I be little a bit sick but in the dog position very nice. Ass and good. Active in bed. Not a beauty but for the price (500-600 UAH. OK). Feeling that the erection will soon disappear, I put it in the dog's posture and several hard attacks to defeat the enemy for 3-4 minutes during fucking good moan. And then he gave me a gentle massage.

Beautiful expressive eyes. Accept clients in their apartment. 100% clients local boys, so the apartment a little modest and far from luxury but clean and no debris.

In English I think understands but does not speak very good. But the way I do not know. I'm good speak in Russian. Good legs. Yes. Attitude towards for the customer friendly. Sucks like a vacuum cleaner.

I prefer a nymphs but the price is not high. I can recommend. But it's no leaves on call.

[MartinReunion]

Does anyone know a decent / good hotel that easily has rooms per hour? Or any similar apartments? Prefer center.

[LuisVega11]

Thank you Luis Vega for your good report. I plan to travel to Kiev but have some concerns about the cold weather there now and afraid not to see the sexy girls walking in the main street or Maydan. I have some Mamba contacts but the risk is no show and waste of time, therefore if you know some girls to recomend me would be great. This girl in the photo seems ok for me, usd? More details? Thanks.

Hi,

Sorry but this contact is already old for me and I haven't left really in good terms)). She begin acting like a supermodel asking a lot and she disappear. I took her in village. She come in Kiev to live and I met her first months. It's one of the best way to know genuine girl. Most of them, if they are hot and have not this great way of living a normal life, become spoilt soon. I canceled her number.

About winter yes is not very good, but around can know good girls. Personally I like the more genuine teenager than the super-pussy with Botox Louis Vuitton seven iPhone that goes in Dubai. Most of them are expensive, boring, not beautiful at all when you see them in morning. But to build up a circle needs time and skills, and most of all have something to propose so they not see you has pussy hunter.

Good luck.

[Sponsor74]

Well I'm 4 years going in Kiev spending more than 50 days per year. So I think I'm mildly disappointed.

Some points.

- everybody has its scale. Personally I don't understand what is 9-10 for you or me'. You talk about dubai spin. Most of those girl for me don't reach 7-8. Maybe for you are 9 -0. I imagine silicone boobs, fit body, silicon lips, cheap face. Yes those girls you can find for example in Sky bar or Gulliver? Or in dubai. Well for me they not reach 7 but maybe for you 9-10. I have friend in Kiev, girl, who I'm sure you won't notice in the street, but if they undress and put bikini your jaw will drop to the soil.

- 300 dollar buy a lot in Kiev. But you need to be smart and self confidence. 300 dollar are a lot of money now in Kiev. So if you can't find a beauty for that sum. I think you have some problems. I don't look for pay girl already told.

Kiev paying is full of scum. Kiev is for thise who have time and know a bit off Russian. The rest will rely on mamba and clearly got fucked up.

- Ukraine is not Malaga. Or Spain. Apart the fact that you are telling that in Spain you can fuck 9 or 10 easily, I doubt, been to Ibiza many times and is all apart easy, and the 9 and 10, of my scale, will just drink all your 300 dollar in some hours, figure they got fucked.

- unfortunate? I live in Kiev and is much much better than many city. I walk all night never had a problem, people are friendly and girl amazing. Sure if you cannot find a normal girl, I agree Kiev sucks for pay only.

This girl, I don't know if it's a 6-8-7. I know I sponsor her always 700 gryvna meet, sometimes a little gift nothing fancy. And she was 18. Super tight pussy. Body that in any western country will make cover of playboy. But to find such gem you need to work hard, and know Ukraine. Unluckily after some months Kiev spoilt this girl, and thanks to foreigners like you probably, sh now ask for 150 200 dollar minimum.

The fact you won't go in Kiev anymore is only a plus really. The less people like you come Kiev the better. Normal girl are spoilt by tourist the less the better.

Thank you Luis Vega for your good report. I plan to travel to Kiev but have some concerns about the cold weather there now and afraid not to see the sexy girls walking in the main street or Maydan. I have some Mamba contacts but the risk is no show and waste of time, therefore if you know some girls to recomend me would be great. This girl in the photo seems ok for me, usd? More details? Thanks.

[BellBottomsDJ]

I think you were born in a modern country and you live in a modern country also.

You do not know the conditions of the a country where restrictions exists. I was born in turkey and for 5 years working in gulf countries.

You don't know the value of fundamental rights and freedoms because no one can try to restrict from you in your modern countries. However, in our countries, your fundamental rights and freedoms are not granted us yet.

Bellbottomdj..

I guess we will see. I will be there soon.