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  1. #16223
    Quote Originally Posted by Rammstein2  [View Original Post]
    At YummyPL Can you please help me and give me an address where to find these 100 UAH teaching girls. I want to stay in Kiev for a longer time and to learn the Russian language!

    Thanks in advance.
    I'd like to know as well where I can find an innocent flower to visit my apartment for four bucks an hour.

  2. #16222
    Quote Originally Posted by Bald69  [View Original Post]
    I have contact information to trade with you as I am interested in your post and the numbers you have if you are willing to share. Please message me.
    I think its not possible for me because I have no rights to sent mails. Are you able to sent a mail?

  3. #16221
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I am paying 100 UAH per hour of study. They don't work for a school. It is about half of the least expensive school and less than a fifth of the commercial schools. All my girls are well qualified and I was very selective on who I chose based on what I found on VK, their resumes, and communicating with them. I contacted about 60 girls, got about 25 responses, and narrowed it down to 5. One backed out when I got here. I have met with 4 and, because I saw one as a hopeless cause (very prudish and proper), I am working with 3
    At YummyPL Can you please help me and give me an address where to find these 100 UAH teaching girls. I want to stay in Kiev for a longer time and to learn the Russian language!

    Thanks in advance.

  4. #16220
    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    Studying Russian is great but I would do that at home. Committing your time to a classroom or one girl with no interest in sharing her pussy is a waste of time. Go to McD, buy a milk shake, and try to chat with college girls. Most are not desensitized to foreigners and are often times excited by the interaction. It's honest and nobody will make judgements. Language skills are over rated.
    At home I can sit in a classroom with 10 other people with an ugly, old Russian instructor, and still pay $2000 for a week of intensive Russian language instruction. In Kiev, that pays for my flight (I am already on a trip to Europe for work), my apartment, food, and individual language instruction from 3 different very attractive young studentka who are certainly not desensitized to foreigners sitting in my apartment (second one came to my apartment tonight for the first time so I am making progress) while building a network of young people that I am certain will have significant benefits in the future. I also get to practice Russian on the street, in shops, and while visiting tourist attractions. When was the last time anyone had the opportunity to practice any Russian skills outside a classroom in the USA?

    Further, if I want to fuck prostitutes, I can do that easily enough in the rest of my day (in fact, I did that last night and had a very mediocre experience). I have fucked almost 300 girls in "normal" P4P in my life. I just don't find it very interesting anymore. The hunt for the amateur is much more interesting to me. I'm playing a long game. My long game in Moscow lasted 3 years and those were the best sexual years of my life. I want to see if I can equal or surpass that in Ukraine.

    And, I am not sure about Ukraine, but in Moscow language skills opened up much greater opportunities.

  5. #16219
    Quote Originally Posted by Volpone  [View Original Post]
    Last year I was paying 150-200 UAH for 1 hour lesson. There is a school near Palats Sportu where you can get private lessons or semi-private for around the same price.

    You can also just have a meal with them and you just pay for the meal, but many of them are not interested in meeting a foreigner and getting just a meal. The golden and easy years are gone in Kiev when so many young chicks was dreaming to meet a foreigner.
    Studying Russian is great but I would do that at home. Committing your time to a classroom or one girl with no interest in sharing her pussy is a waste of time. Go to McD, buy a milk shake, and try to chat with college girls. Most are not desensitized to foreigners and are often times excited by the interaction. It's honest and nobody will make judgements. Language skills are over rated.

  6. #16218
    I am paying 100 UAH per hour of study. They don't work for a school. It is about half of the least expensive school and less than a fifth of the commercial schools. All my girls are well qualified and I was very selective on who I chose based on what I found on VK, their resumes, and communicating with them. I contacted about 60 girls, got about 25 responses, and narrowed it down to 5. One backed out when I got here. I have met with 4 and, because I saw one as a hopeless cause (very prudish and proper), I am working with 3.

    The 18 year old is a C1 in English and is a native Russian speaker, recently broke up with her boyfriend, is from a small village about 150 KM north of Kiev on the Russian border, has worked as a tutor to high school kids, and is a full time student at the linguistics university. These are the types of things I looked for.

    Further, I take my Russian lessons seriously, and I know they can see that. I am absolutely certain that the 3 that I am working with don't think I am a sex tourist. My backstory is foolproof mostly because it is 80% true. You might even say it is 95% true as that extra 15% is simply that I am actively looking to have sex with them or their friends and really, all girls know all guys want to have sex, so me not approaching them on that isn't a lie, it is just an unannounced omission.

    I gave a light hug to all 3 girls I am working with when we first met in person (the 4th prudish one backed off from my hug). They may have been a little surprised by this, but I think it was normal for them. 2 of the 3 initiated a hug goodbye when we departed the first time.

    All girls, whether they are Ukrainian or not, give subtle hints to their comfort / willingness / interest. You just need to really pay attention to what they are communicating to you.

  7. #16217
    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanPine  [View Original Post]
    Yummy, if you don't mind sharing, how much do you pay her for the language lessons?
    Last year I was paying 150-200 UAH for 1 hour lesson. There is a school near Palats Sportu where you can get private lessons or semi-private for around the same price.

    You can also just have a meal with them and you just pay for the meal, but many of them are not interested in meeting a foreigner and getting just a meal. The golden and easy years are gone in Kiev when so many young chicks was dreaming to meet a foreigner.

  8. #16216

    Looking to Trade info

    Does anyone have any contacts for semi pros. Looking to trade contact info and also looking for a trustworthy driver. Still new on the scene but will be in Kiev for at least 1 year so my contact list will grow over time which I will be willing to share with the community. Any assistance while I am starting out would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

  9. #16215

    Rammstein2 - message me

    Quote Originally Posted by Rammstein2  [View Original Post]
    Here are some pictures from some girls from whom I got Viber / Whattsapp numbers and fotos. Some of the photos are made from me. I met and fucked them all. The prices have been between 40 to 100 and for one 300 . Is somebody interested in the numbers?
    I have contact information to trade with you as I am interested in your post and the numbers you have if you are willing to share. Please message me.

  10. #16214

    Score one for the team, Yummy!

    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    Well, I enjoyed my time with my 18 year old tutor last night. Nothing close to sex but a fair amount of flirting from her even though I played it very non-flirtatiously. We cooked a nice dinner together and she sat close to me on the couch as we studied. On our third meeting she is already acting very comfortably toward me. She left fairly early (around 10) because she had an early class. Next time I plan to invite her to stay the night--to sleep, not to have sex--as my apartment is much closer to her school than her apartment and, of course, mine is much nicer. I doubt many Ukrainian men get this level of comfort from a girl in the time we have had together.

    But more importantly, she said two of the most important phrases I could want to hear: "all my friends are jealous" and "one of my friends wants to come over with me next time if its OK."
    Yummy, if you don't mind sharing, how much do you pay her for the language lessons?

  11. #16213
    Well, I enjoyed my time with my 18 year old tutor last night. Nothing close to sex but a fair amount of flirting from her even though I played it very non-flirtatiously. We cooked a nice dinner together and she sat close to me on the couch as we studied. On our third meeting she is already acting very comfortably toward me. She left fairly early (around 10) because she had an early class. Next time I plan to invite her to stay the night--to sleep, not to have sex--as my apartment is much closer to her school than her apartment and, of course, mine is much nicer. I doubt many Ukrainian men get this level of comfort from a girl in the time we have had together.

    But more importantly, she said two of the most important phrases I could want to hear: "all my friends are jealous" and "one of my friends wants to come over with me next time if its OK."

  12. #16212

    Agencies?

    Quote Originally Posted by BillySanchez89  [View Original Post]
    I live in Tel Aviv and the Ukrainian / Russian girls on backpage are usually the best you can get here.

    Jojosun- what site or agency would recommend over backpage in Kiev? I also saw His and relaxkiev, any experience with them?
    First time I landed in Kiev in 2009 I had a walk along Kreschatick the main st there, bought a copy of the english newspaper there (Kiev Post) just to get a feel for the city and catch up with news and when I got to the last pages there was the Personal section full of ads for individual girls. At random I picked one girl called (Marina) and when she turned up at my hotel she was a solid 9 ,hot smoking girl. Speaking with her, it turned out that Marina advertised is the name of the agency she worked for and not her as she was a part time escort. When I returned to Kiev 2 months later I found out that a Pakistani businessman had bought Kiev Post and the first thing he did was to close Personals ads in there.

    Then I got on Mamba and after a lot of prior research before I landed in Kiev (Operative word on Mamba, Prior research) and contact I met my present wingwoman, guide, scout, there when she was 22 years old looking for a sponsor and the rest is now history as I got my own circle of contacts (not for sharing).

    As for Agencies, I wouldn't know what's the most reliable there at present But from feedback on here it seems the most reliable, albeit expensive is http://gia-escort.com/.

    You can always speed interview girls from backpage or other agencies at the lobby of your hotel or nearby coffee house at intervals of say 10 minutes or so to choose what you like. That's what I used to do in Kiev in the olden days. Girls I didn't like, I just made excuses or got security guy to tell the girl that she can't go up to my room. But I always sent back girls with 50 UA for Taxi money as I didn't want to burn bridges with agencies for future contact. Now the taxi money must be around 100 UA?

    Have fun and don't be shy about asking questions on here as it will save you a lot of hassle and expenses when you land there.

  13. #16211

    Loose lips.

    Just a heads up, she knows about this site (and others) and checks them often for anything at all pertaining to herself. She will likely see your post and try to contact you about it.

    She was told about this site by another monger that saw her after I had recommended her as being truly legitimate, honest and worth seeing. I said nothing bad at all, but she still wanted me to ask admin to remove my "review". I gave her some advice in regards to her online profile etc and I see that she changed names but that is all she did.

    You're right, she's a nice girl and yes she can talk for hours and hours but I don't mind the social aspect of the date. A social drinker as well but it's up to you to control the alcohol consumption if you don't want her to get buzzed but I'm guessing most don't mind that. Thinking that they'll get a more GFE date if she is buzzed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wgmm99  [View Original Post]
    I met sweety. She goes by Alina now. She is really hot in person. The evening was just OK. She came to my place and drank a lot. Too much. We had some laughs but she talked a lot about how much her fur costs, how much iphones cost, how much everything costs. We did it once at 5 am and it decent. She is a little soft in the belly but firm ass and legs. Easily a solid 8 looks and body wise. I'd recommend. Just don't let her get completely shit faced like I did.

  14. #16210
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowPaul  [View Original Post]
    Funny. I just did the exact opposite of you.

    I met 2 different Ukrainians girls in Tel Aviv last week to escape the cold & grey of Kiev.
    I live in Tel Aviv and the Ukrainian / Russian girls on backpage are usually the best you can get here. Thought I'd sample some straight from the tap while in Kiev for business. That's why I need some discreet arrivals as I don't want to alert the whole hotel that I had a guest.

    Jojosun- what site or agency would recommend over backpage in Kiev? I also saw His and relaxkiev, any experience with them?

  15. #16209
    Quote Originally Posted by YummyPL  [View Original Post]
    I have met many girls in the Philippines and I used to go to the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica and had good success with "normal" young and attractive girls (Costa Rica has become much harder these days), but I like Slavic girls better. They are actually much more difficult in many ways, but also easier. I like Asian girls ok, but they have a very different sensibility and generally, at least for my taste, are less attractive. Costa Rican girls are hot, but stupid western tourists have ruined that place.

    My tutor arrives at my apartment in an hour. We cancelled the museum because she was busy but she said she really wanted to cook for me. Let's see how it goes.
    Great reports Yummy. Keep us updated. I'm especially interested how long it takes to get the bang as I run a help wanted AD for a "personal assistant' in Kiev rather then the traditional Mamba, Tinder, Badoo, etc sites.

    I tend to get a more normal girl who usually is looking for a job rather then a relationship but this method is not for the short term type of monger staying 4 days on business.

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