Kyiv

[YellowPaul]

First time posting, first trip to Kiev next week 30/10-2/11. I use Backpage regularly to find girls or agencies here in Israel, where I live, and on backpage I see tons of girls in Kiev. I've heard stories about hotels not letting girls in or requiring "tips" to do so but I prefer to be discreet and avoid the looks from reception or hearing the knock on the door just to find Boris the bouncer on the other end. I'm staying at the Hotel Ukraine right next to Maidan. Will have a problem getting a girl from backpage, gia, or relax Kiev staying there?

What should I expect to pay for A level service from an 8 or above?

Best to pay in Euro or UAH?

Thanks for helping me on my first monger tour to Kiev!

BillySanchez

Funny. I just did the exact opposite of you.

I met 2 different Ukrainians girls in Tel Aviv last week to escape the cold & grey of Kiev.

Definitely some of hottest girls in Tel Aviv are the Russians / Ukrainians working there in the restaurants, bars, etc. Mind you nothing still beats the Ukrainian girls in there native land where they are more plentiful and have less options.

[YummyPL]

However this aspect of getting a girl easily still works on other continents.

I have met many girls in the Philippines and I used to go to the Dominican Republic and Costa Rica and had good success with "normal" young and attractive girls (Costa Rica has become much harder these days), but I like Slavic girls better. They are actually much more difficult in many ways, but also easier. I like Asian girls ok, but they have a very different sensibility and generally, at least for my taste, are less attractive. Costa Rican girls are hot, but stupid western tourists have ruined that place.

My tutor arrives at my apartment in an hour. We cancelled the museum because she was busy but she said she really wanted to cook for me. Let's see how it goes.

[Jojosun]

First time posting, first trip to Kiev next week 30/10-2/11. I use Backpage regularly to find girls or agencies here in Israel, where I live, and on backpage I see tons of girls in Kiev. I've heard stories about hotels not letting girls in or requiring "tips" to do so but I prefer to be discreet and avoid the looks from reception or hearing the knock on the door just to find Boris the bouncer on the other end. I'm staying at the Hotel Ukraine right next to Maidan. Will have a problem getting a girl from backpage, gia, or relax Kiev staying there?

What should I expect to pay for A level service from an 8 or above?

Best to pay in Euro or UAH?

Thanks for helping me on my first monger tour to Kiev!

BillySanchez

Hotel Ukraine is usually OK with girls. Maybe you need to grease the pa! Ms of security with 100/150 UAH. OR even ask them for girls.

There is was a strip club onsite there but the girls weren't that hot.

Back page is usually full of scams but I don't know how it works with it in Kiev.

[Volpone]

Only two comments on this:

1. I don't think that at all. Maybe my experience will be different than in Moscow, but I don't plan on paying any girl directly. I certainly will not offer it directly. I never had to in Russia.

2. I've been told by both girls and guys from Russia / Ukraine that a Russian / Ukrainian girl will never go to your apartment unless she is at least open to sex--not necessarily that she wanted it--but at least she is open to the possibility. I already have one of them coming to my apartment tomorrow.

I posted about my plan several days back. It is an experiment based on my success in Russia. At the end of my experiment, I will discuss more details about the web sites I used and what I wrote.

I know you don't think like most guys in Western European countries about the fact that Ukrainian girls are easy chicks and get sex with anybody that give them some money. You have been to Russia, you know how it is. However this aspect of getting a girl easily still works on other continents.

You might have found a much better website than Mamba to meet these 18-22 years old chicks, because I notice that they usually are not interested in meeting even to get a meal for free at the restaurant. Of course if your dates are older, it would be easier to meet them for a meal. Anyway let us know, some of us are surely curious about your likely affairs in Kiev.

[Ringudor]

Had one of the best body to body massages at this place a while back. The girl was a pretty student who had the most amazing ass and used it for the oily happy ending.

Maybe Antonina? I was with her 2 months ago, strongly recommended also, a pity she only talks Russian.

[BillySanchez89]

First time posting, first trip to Kiev next week 30/10-2/11. I use Backpage regularly to find girls or agencies here in Israel, where I live, and on backpage I see tons of girls in Kiev. I've heard stories about hotels not letting girls in or requiring "tips" to do so but I prefer to be discreet and avoid the looks from reception or hearing the knock on the door just to find Boris the bouncer on the other end. I'm staying at the Hotel Ukraine right next to Maidan. Will have a problem getting a girl from backpage, gia, or relax Kiev staying there?

What should I expect to pay for A level service from an 8 or above?

Best to pay in Euro or UAH?

Thanks for helping me on my first monger tour to Kiev!

BillySanchez

[Sean EZ]

I always meet girls on Mamba in Kiev 18-22 range maybe with an exception of one trip of many. I speak the language perfectly but I am not convinced it actually help, as many girls think it's safer to hookup with a foreigner. It has gotten a lot harder than what it used to be a few years ago, but it still works. The problem is the top 100-200 girls that come up in the search are all agencies, having multiple browsers open on multiple computers as well as cheap smart phones, pretending to be the girls on the picture.

Provided you know where to find agencies / apartment girls, you can weed those out because they will not confirm the pictures are theirs, and will usually right away reply with simple one liners like 100 ye 1 hour. The rest are girls who are genuinely looking for boyfriends and many more are freelancers. These girls will engage in some conversation and you will soon be able to tell the difference.

Advice: touch on the subject of financial assistance if there is chemistry, do meet for coffee but do not take them out to any dinners unless you feel there is a genuine connection between the two of you and this is not very likely, most of these girls are looking for sponsor. Many girls get kickbacks from restaurants. If you like a girl, grab coffee or a drink with her at a pub to loosen them up, do not let them call shots, be the one calling shots, and be firm that you're willing to pay them and are not interested in dinners until after you've established a connection and chemistry (makes sense right, what's the point of having dinner if all the while you're horny and have to pretend you're enjoying a conversation in her broken English).

I think also Tinder works very well although I don't see many younger girls on it. But many hot girls in 23-30 range and many with Instagram profiles so you know they are not fake. VK.com used to work I would just offer money for company but haven't gotten any replies on my last trip.

I'd be curious if anyone knows any other internet sources. Badoo maybe?

If all else fails there is always Dinamo Lux and Sky, etc. Find a travel buddy, dress nice, get a table, invite girls over to sit down for a drink, remember obviously looking Ho's will always charge more and perform less.

[YummyPL]

I know what Western European and American guys and Turkish guys think: Nearly every Ukrainian girls will open their thighs for a big amount of money. A real wrong belief.

Only two comments on this:

1. I don't think that at all. Maybe my experience will be different than in Moscow, but I don't plan on paying any girl directly. I certainly will not offer it directly. I never had to in Russia.

2. I've been told by both girls and guys from Russia / Ukraine that a Russian / Ukrainian girl will never go to your apartment unless she is at least open to sex--not necessarily that she wanted it--but at least she is open to the possibility. I already have one of them coming to my apartment tomorrow.

I posted about my plan several days back. It is an experiment based on my success in Russia. At the end of my experiment, I will discuss more details about the web sites I used and what I wrote.

[Volpone]

It's a complete waste of time, I'll second it. Haven't we all tried that before somewhere.

Yep I think it is a waste of time in Kiev. Even if it may work for some good looking guys or some others that are persistent with many dates, it still takes money and time to the majority that gets nothing at that game. Fortunately there are still other countries where you can bed easily normal girl at the first or at the second date and even if you are not a good looking guy.

[Riina]

Money is not everything in Ukraine, and money is.

Not everything, but certainly matters.

[Riina]

I arrived in Kiev for my great social experiment on Thursday. I have met with 3 "normal" girls so far for casual conversation ostensibly to practice my Russian and have them practice their English with a native English speaker. I met all three on the Maidan area after contacting them on a web site and then emailing with them and then adding to social networking app. One was a real dud but the other two seem like good prospects. One is 18 and the other is 19 and both attend the linguistics university in Kiev. I paid for lunch with the 19 year old and we talked for about 3 hours. The 18 year old I bought lunch twice and we spent 2 hours then 5 hours together. She is planning to come to my apartment on Tuesday to cook a meal together after we go to the Bulgarkov museum.

The 19 year old is cute with a rocking thin body. I would rate her a solid 7 for my tastes. The 18 year old is gorgeous to me and has a nice body. I would rate her as an 8 for my tastes. I will get a picture of her when she is at my apartment. I am meeting a 4th girl tomorrow.

Obviously no sex yet but I didn't expect it yet. In the words of some of the recent posts, one must show restraint.

Lunch cost about 400 each time so I have spent about $50 dollars on girls and I am building my contacts, plus improving my Russian skills at the same time.

I know this is not traditional mongering and it takes more time than most are willing to spend.

You can do things like that to entertain yourself but that's a terrible mistake to make assumptions that random girls will play for cash. At any given time, there is a fresh group of girls willing and wanting to sell their cookies in Kiev and you just have to find them.

[Biagio]

I agree 100%, money is not everything in Ukraine.

Generally, you get what you pay for.

[Biagio]

I agree 100%, money is not everything in Ukraine.

Money is not everything in Ukraine, and money is.

[Biagio]

Hi Sorbonne,

I did nearly the same as him last year. I was using Mamba. I got 4 girls to teach me some Russian and to speak together and to correct my mistakes. Two looked very pretty on their photos, but in the real life one was chubby and the other one a bag of bones, so I really didn't feel like trying to fuck them. The two others are really pretty around 9 or 10. I tried to trick one of them using a fake profile and asking if she was interesting in meeting my fake guy for 150 $ for 2-3 hours. She laughed at it. Then I rised the price at 200 $ and she said that was indecent and that I could use a prostitute for that. That girl is a student with a tough life as she is not from Kiev and lives in a shared bedroom. Anyway it didn't work at all. With the other 9, we are still in touch, but she is waiting for her charming prince, the big love, the love of her life. I might meet her again, but that will be only to exchange languages.

Result: So I bedded no girls at all. Spending about 800 UAH for 4 lessons. My age: 37. Age of the girls: 19-21.

I know what Western European and American guys and Turkish guys think: Nearly every Ukrainian girls will open their thighs for a big amount of money. A real wrong belief.

It's a complete waste of time, I'll second it. Haven't we all tried that before somewhere.

[Biagio]

In the olden days that was the price most girls quoted at River Palace, some were asking for $300 but such prices were for more than one hour whether it was 200 $ or more.

I never took out a girl at such prices but met them following day for happy hour prices ($100). I didn't haggle or convince them about anything, just took their digits and phoned them next day as I told them at the club I don't go for late sex. It worked most of the time except with one girl who wouldn't have been out of place in a playboy centerfold who stuck to her price of $400 and not just with me.

I know who you are talking about. I gave her 600 $, 200 $ more than she asked for. A-level.

She's worth every penny.