Kyiv

[Wgmm99]

That's just great!

Pay attention all you want to be Kiev mongers!

Spending all this money on airfare and hotels, end up in Massage Parlors with a hand job.

Don't you think it's better to just stay home and get a local provider for less because you'd save all this airfare and hotel expense?

And most importantly, you'll save time and not getting tired from long flights.

I hear what you are saying but I didn't come here specifically to.

Monger. I work here on and off and want to spend more time here. Women is just a bonus. Personally I like the massage places when they do it well. This chick was pretty hot looking me really erotic in her "work". For me, dropping 40-50 $ for a really good massage / titty fuck / handjob is OK. Would I rather ass bang 10's for the same.

Money. Of course. But a really pretty girl jerking me off is OK too!

[Samcik]

Hey folks, if anyone interested to exchange some contacts please let me know. I have 5 pro and 8 semi pros contacts. Looking to meet new girls.

[Riina]

Why are you saying to avoid Coyote Ugly? Except the fact, that a foreigner was beaten and stolen there once, the music is a bit different from the other clubs, more rock atmosphere.

I'd like to know too. Coyote Ugly has tons of young hotties that you can track down on VK and possibly meet behind closed doors. I don't see SkyBar as a viable mongering option. That's jaded twat that will suck your money like a machine and spit you out.

[Volpone]

Your first challenge will be getting in the door on a Friday or Saturday night, both places operate fairly strict face control.

If you do get in, expect a fairly busy bar with girls either loitering by the bar or sat at the semi-circle tables. They are unlikely to openly signal themselves as P4 P, although if they're alone, or with a GF but barely talking, your chances are good. Prices at both places are premium, you'll be unlikely to take anything for under $250 (expect them to quote $500+). Quality looks-wise is generally top end, service very rarely matches.

Do yourself a favor, go to Shooters near Arsenal or Podol. If you really like clubs, try the*Lux. Avoid Coyote Ugly at all costs.

Why are you saying to avoid Coyote Ugly? Except the fact, that a foreigner was beaten and stolen there once, the music is a bit different from the other clubs, more rock atmosphere.

[CallSign Papa]

Looking for really beautifully girls when I come is this truly the place to meet them? Looking for 9's or 10's. Read reviews that these were the best places for gorgeous girls. Any info would be appreciated willing to pay for beautiful girls.

Your first challenge will be getting in the door on a Friday or Saturday night, both places operate fairly strict face control.

If you do get in, expect a fairly busy bar with girls either loitering by the bar or sat at the semi-circle tables. They are unlikely to openly signal themselves as P4 P, although if they're alone, or with a GF but barely talking, your chances are good. Prices at both places are premium, you'll be unlikely to take anything for under $250 (expect them to quote $500+). Quality looks-wise is generally top end, service very rarely matches.

Do yourself a favor, go to Shooters near Arsenal or Podol. If you really like clubs, try the*Lux. Avoid Coyote Ugly at all costs.

[DramaFree11]

Sorry, but there are no 9's or 10's in Kiev.

[Kabukicho]

Hi guys,

I have been reading this forum to plan my trip and get some useful info.

Unfortunately it was a nightmare to get some real contacts and phone numbers with price.

So as I learned in the past TOFTT and I did.

http://relaxportal.biz/eng/ is a good source for me as I found an agency on it that sent me quality girls for 1000 plus 100 for taxi.

They have bad English, the girls were late but the sex part was good.

The sent 3 girls at the Hotel, I came to the lobby and choose the one I wanted. Pay attention here: hotel is OK for girls to come BUT if you booked a single room, they will charge you after 9 pm!

I gave the doorman 200 and he became my best friend here, and provided 2 other dates yesterday night, it was more pricey 1500 / H but girls were better looking. Same as other agency, 3 girls come by taxi.

I think its more expensive cause the Hotel must get a cut on it.

As for mamba, tourist trap for me all girls were like 100 $ minimum.

Today will be visit of the city, sex in the afternoon, and tonight I have a driver that will shox me all the different bordellos in Kiev.

So will tell you the results tomorrow.

For the city guide I found a nice girl (no P4P) that gave me connections / advice / nice tour of city
She is smart and friendly but don't try to date her you will waste your time, make her your wingwomen and pussy will come to you.

I don't care of what you think about me and don't expect anything. I was just sad to see BS infos and no contacts while Kiev has a lot to offer.

Would you mind PMing me the guide's contact info? I tried to PM you, you're not set to receive PMs. Thankyou.

[Harry Hirsch]

If anybody is next 10 days in Kiev.

I know nice girl (7-8) with good sex performance, perfect blowjob, CIM possible.

She like sex much like all kinds)).

She get for some hours (2-3) 3000 UAH (+500 for Anal).

If anybody interested, send me PM, with mail address. I will send some photos.

[LoverOfTravel]

Looking for really beautifully girls when I come is this truly the place to meet them? Looking for 9's or 10's. Read reviews that these were the best places for gorgeous girls. Any info would be appreciated willing to pay for beautiful girls.

[Aek513]

Why so expensive indeed? (blink).

We all must have restraints not to pay those high prices, as CallSign Papa told us: "Those of us with restraint and experience know where the value is in the market. " I am glad you've found that market (blink).

The trick is when you type in Google bar in English "Ukraine, Kiev, escort, prostitutes. "Goggle shows you sites in English specially designed for western men, naively assuming at all of them are very rich or stupid. However it's not always true. Prices on these sites in English show are like $100 or so.

You type in Google bar in Russian "1059;1082;1088;1072;1080;1085;1072;, К1080;1077;1074;, п1088;1086;1089;1090;1080;1090;1091;1090;1082;1080;. ", Google will show normal sites in Russian language and with normal prices like 400 -600 Grivna. These sites are designed for locals.

Does it make a sense? Would you like to get more help?

[Harry Hardman]

After I been disappointed of my first day in Kiev I read this forum, in here is many opinions I did not know which one to believe, so I let you mine. I am a Scandinavian, 35 years old I usually get a 6 between 25 and 30 years old paying a couple of drink back home.

So in Kiev we arrive on Thursday for first time in Kiev and went to Arena complex around 22 00 was almost dead we eat something and around 2330 went to shooters, I been in Bangkok for a year so I was looking for the freelance girls you find a BKK, so that day was Salsa day ratio was 1 boy 1 girl, girls between 7 and 9, but average 7, everybody dancing Latino music, I am very bad dancing but suddenly an 8 jump on me to dance and I think bingo lucky day, but she just wanted to dance no drink no anything, so I keep on trying many girls but they only want to dance, I also I do not find any other tourist to find if is any kind of code or anything. So I did not came here to work as hell, so we go back home and go to the net, do not do that, we call 800 grinas hour girls, we order 4 hours, it came a 3 (20) and a 5 (21), we both take the five and 2 hours later send them home. So first day a total disaster.

Next day we try the street, seems like the normal girls do not have money to go out, is possible to arrange dates, but we do not have time for that, I am talking girls that can be 7 or 8.

In the night we go to De luxe, since everybody said you could find working girls there. We get in and find many 8 and 9, the ratio is bad 2 guys 1 girl also some tourist from turkey and the others from Europe, everybody we the some plan. I see two nine without a drink with max 20 years old, we approach and they take the offer asking right away for champagne, we buy Prosseco since they did not have a clew what was champagne, the finish the drink and disappear, then we start again, I start to talk with a girl from Ukraine on 3 day holidays in Kiev and she tell me is tired that everybody think she is working meanwhile I talk to her more guys approach her is crazy, I talk all the girls available but no case, I take a trip to see who is having girls, and are only the ones having more than 3 bottles in the table, I get the idea to change club and try to check Caribbean club.

In the way out approach another tourist, they been in Caribbean club on Thursday and they tell me sucks, come with us we going to check a Strip club, I read here you can pay for a girl there so why not check it out, I take a car with them and since I read here you can get girls for 2000 grinas I ask the driver about that he said no problem, he leave the guys in the strip club and take me to an apartment since I tired and is late in the first apartment we find 3 sevens, I take one home for 100 grinas extra so everything 2100.

I take the drivers number so the next day before going out we go to checks apartments this time I pay attention, and this one is good for everyone if you are outside arena club, or vapiano or the Ferrari store, you looking to this places go to the left is the last door before the corner, you just ring and is those places where you take a drink and the girl dance, important do not order a drink a corona cost me 500 grinas.

Prices here are 1600 grinas for 6 or 7 or 2600 for 7 to 9, I got 1 from here 21 was an 8 she was amazing. Always 100 extra to take her home.

After that we go to Indigo I like it more than De luxe since the ratio was 1 to 1, we try here but we only find one working girl but was a 6, in this place you can see at least 10 nines many 7 and 8, it was some Turkish tourist is like you find them everywhere. This club is nice to have fun, I liked is clean friendly people but we could not get anything.

Then I say we do not try Forsage everybody is saying is the students club, I assume there must be the working girls, since all the ones I got were students. We get there the public is younger, cheaper, in the basement nice dance floor with non electronic commercial music but un ratio 3 boys 2 girls and not many beautiful, first floor many African and Turkish tourist again with Latino music ratio there is bad also quality, then second floor pop music ratio 1 to 1 and you could find some 9 but no one alone we try the 7 same of them are friendly some not but again we are tired so we give up.

I only recommend that club if you like electronic music, DJ was very good the some for the crowd in the basement they were having fun, the same at indigo but more commercial and upscale.

Even I did not went I heard a lot about Heaven between 6 am and 10 to have fun in after hour.

So coming back to the apartments another one that I remember is Velyka Vas street the building beside the restaurant puzata hata, the left one, in the 6 floor, you find many 7 some 8 and if you are lucky a 9 this place is 1500 grinas hour, just wait somebody go out and climb the 6 floor the left one.

So what I felt is take a one night stand and I not much easier that in another place is only that you have more money here, I see you could get nice dating but you need time for that, meaning you could get a hooter girlfriend that back home, then go for the girls is use in between 60 usd and 100 usd hour. So if you do not know anybody go outside a club find a driver that know the apartments and he will take you to a tour, he will get a commission from the agency around 500 grinas, so offer to pay 500 to him and get cheaper rate in the agency, if not the agency will charge full price every time you go.

My friend and many others recommend me the erotic massages, I did not tried but heard that is cheap and good 2 hours.

So despite that Kiev is a nice city to discover if you never been, is not many tourist, you can have for not to much money and the if you want the easy just go to the apartments and pick a girl because if you are not Brad Pitt or Justin no one will jump on you, if it was a time in Kiev that girls jump on you no does time are over.

That's the kind of things I am talking about.

It's actually not bad for what it is now in Kiev as far as mongering goes.

[Harry Hardman]

Why so expensive indeed? (blink).

We all must have restraints not to pay those high prices, as CallSign Papa told us: "Those of us with restraint and experience know where the value is in the market. " I am glad you've found that market (blink).

Why so expensive?

I found a few escorts agencies on internet and then called them and they confirm that the price is from 400 UAH to 600 UAH an hour.

1 $ = 26 UAH. I called not just 1 agency but 5 escort agencies.

[Harry Hardman]

Good report about the private apartments in Kiev.

Was BBBJ included in the price mentionned? I don't think so. Every time I was in that kind of flats, I had to pay an extra at least the fourth of the price. So when you pay 1500 UAH and with an extra of 500 for BBBJ = 2000 UAH, so more than 70 Euros. So still more expensive than many brothels or apartments in Germany and in Spain. There it's usually around 50-60 Euros for 30 minutes with BBBJ included. And you don't have to pay someone to go to the address, you don't risk to have some problems with the police like some guys told about it.

If you have to come in Kiev for private or professional reasons, that's still a good deal once in a while. However if you are coming from Western Europe or the USA or Asia to enjoy these prices, I don't think that's a bargain.

It's also interesting to see in your report, how hard it is to bring back home normal girls in the street or in discos even for a good looking guy, that has maybe more success at home.

I've been to Forsage, forget it. I didn't find any working girls there and nobody was impressed if you are from Western Europe or from the USA.

Great comments!

That's what's going on in here these days.

If you are here for sight-seeing, ok.

But if you are here for mongering, forget it

and be prepared for mega-disappointments.

[Aek513]

And every agency has "real" photos in the internet. ?
The price 400/600 UAH is true. But they will try to charge you for every extra + The quality of the girls will be low. Better if you don't expect anything.
They post the photos to make the customers horny. Most of the photos even don't show the type of the girls that they offer.
If you call for a blonde slim beauty the chance is higher that they send a 40 year old Brunette (fat, of course) instead of a super-model.
Don't try to argue with "I send the girl home without any payment". After the 3rd, 4th, 5th girl you have to accept that kind of business-methods.

Honestly I haven't been there myself. What I did is sitting in my London flat I called them and checked the prices.

I am planning to travel to Ukraine next month.

And almost everything you wrote about pics looks like true.

However, what will happen if I arrange an incall appointment with that woman but I absolutely wouldn't like her?

When I come to them instead of "a slim beautiful blonde" will appear "an ugly fat cow" ha ha ha.

Can I say them that I don't like that lady and let me go please?

Have you ever had the similar situation?

[TeFab456]

More and more I find the general spirit in this forum a bit discomforting.

To go to Kiev to find escorts for 25 € (of which the girl will receive 10 to 12 €) should not be the standard by which to judge a city. And the chase for freebies will depend, as has been mentioned countless times before, on at least some sort of interest for the place, the culture and the conditions of living (not to speak of personal appearance and general degree of humanity).

For escort in Kiev I usually go to Backpage. There are some interesting semi agencies and also the occasional individual girl. Prices start at 2000 UAH per hour, and with a few extras for another 1000 you can get a very uninhibited GFE, OWO and CIM which is not cheap anymore, but frankly way beyond what you can get for that money in Western Europe. Read the ads, and if you have some sense for nuance you will find the girls I am talking about.

For all the other dreams you have to work the dating and travel websites, which are still very rewarding if you have the patience. And a walk on Kreshatyk or an afternoon in a cafe on Bessarabskaya can still pay off, if you are confident and don't appear too needy.