Kyiv

**Suka Shalava** · 03-31-16 08:30

Originally Posted by DexterLaster [View Original Post]

Reading about perceptions on girls is a bunch of horse shit.
All you people do is argue irrelevant shit and blanket assertions.
Who fucks for $10, or won't fuck for $1000.
I have to go through 6 pages to find useful information.
Can you start posting more "reports" with actual useful information and stop polluting the report sections.

Yes, its true, the propensity of members posting opinions contrasted with the lack of useful info over here in the FSU sections, compared to country boards like Spain, and many Asian and South American sections that have great detailed info on places to find ladies, their prices, and how the ladies rated, is clear and obviously leaving you quite frustrated. But this is nothing new. This trend goes back here not for just 6 pages that you mentioned, but for 106 pages!

There are ex-pats living or working in the FSU that will offer specifics from time to time, like when a pick-up joints get hold or cold, but I can assure you that in 20 years of following the board, the most useful info you'll find in the FSU will be what you find for yourself through trial and error out in the real world on your own adventures, and not in cyberspace. If you find that advice isn't useful to you, or you want to say that further pollutes the board with even more horse shit, well, that's just another opinion in this long list.

On the other hand, you don't really have to look any farther than Barba's post today. If and when you do arrive in Ukraine or some other motherland destination, you really should find yourself a friendly taxi driver to get you connected with some ladies, whether you want, as you say, the $10 junkie who sucks off truck drivers from Bulgaria, or a strip club fake-boobs scammer to fleece you out of $1000.

Taking a chance asking for some assistance with a friendly cab driver could result in getting you introduced to a mamachka that provides ladies for a police chief! Or bring you to a van in a parking lot full of ladies of the evening. Or across town to the train station to meet a mamba sponsorette. Or to salons, or saunas, or just plain nasty apartments with tramps.

**Member #4491** · 03-31-16 01:14

Aleksej was a friendly taxi driver. +380 67 392 7533. English is OK.

Ha can take you to apartments. I promised him I would try to generate some business for him, since I was broke after a long night at Shooters and could not pay for the ride, only the poonani (1500 UAH).

There is one apartment on Basseina that I wrote about in a previous post so no need to go very far.

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**Esatikkanen** · 03-30-16 23:22

Originally Posted by Sorbonne [View Original Post]

5000 Hryvnia for 6 1/2 hours from 10:30 to 5:00? Wow, it does seem war weighs heavily.

I saw Natasha 2 days ago. If you click the link, it does up as natalia now. She is as described. Chatterbox, great BBBJ. But 2 things, she is 35-36 years old. Look smiley but she isn't a young hard body. She is pretty but look tired. Talks a lot about her son which doesn't exactly turn me on. Also, she didn't bring condoms and I was out. She said we could bang as long is I pulled out. I declined. I am to keen to bareback a broad I jest met. But, for the price she is really nice, decent looking, and can give great head.

**Esatikkanen** · 03-30-16 23:18

So I met up with Dominika who is listed on Gia website. I found her on mamba and recognized her photos. We worked out $150 for the night. She came over and face was pretty but she gained 25 lbs since the photos. In any event I was pretty drunken and decided to go with it. Face fucked her, lots of gagging,. Blow a load in her mouth.

Then she starts with all I=kinds of games. "I can't find the one you gave me", "my mother will kill me if I come home with no money", call Gia agency and order me and then cancel (which I don't understand at all. But that ever). She was crying and saying "please help me. I have no money" and then going crazy in Russian, threatening me. She didn't know I understood. Luckily she saw a patch on my jacket that made it clear I was a military advisor and she asked what it was. When I said, "you know exactly what it means an who I work with" she left without any further drama. Luckily she didn't call my bluff. I'm not sure what the group I advise would actually do, but t was enough to gather out the door. \.

So, in any event, if you come across Lika on mamba, think she is hot, realize that she is working for less than Gia (Dominika) charges and think its a good deal, please know that she got fat and is 100 percent nuts. On the other hand, she did let me face fuck her for 2 hours and finish in her throat.

If anybody has a sure thing for reasonable cash. Please let me know! After this shit show, I need a normal working girl.

**DexterLaster** · 03-30-16 08:14

Reading these "reports" for different cities across the globe are starting to take a toll on me. Why is it all you people do is argue about your notions and perceptions. Oh the girls don't want a sponsor because of their reputation. Oh girls know their value from all the turk fanboys.

What a bunch of irrelevant horse shit. How can you possibly try to make such blanket assertions of humans in any country. Every country has a working girl who fucks men for $10, every country has women who won't fuck you for $1000. Some care about love, some care about money, some care that you have a 6 pack, and some just want to you to speak their fucking language. Can you people start posting more "reports" and less "my dick is bigger than yours" arguing about stupid shit. I have to go through 6 pages to find a real report with actual useful information. Maybe we can make a sub section for these cities where you guys can go and argue and stop polluting the report sections.

**Riina** · 03-28-16 21:39

Originally Posted by Traveller22 [View Original Post]

I am afraid that "thanks to" the social networks and their thousand of thirsty admirers worlwide, those pretty Ukrainian girls know perfectly well their market value now, notwithstanding the current very poor economical situation of the country.

Yes, many many admirers. My twenty year old friend has about two hundred Turks blocked on her VK profile. Try to find that kind of interest in Latin America.

**Stevie69** · 03-27-16 10:00

In my experience, they are one of the best options. When I visit Kiev, I try to spend some time during the day around Taras Shevchenko University. I find the girls are gorgeous, friendly, eager to practice their English and can be persuaded to join you at your apartment for under 1000 UAH. No sponsorship necessary. My impression is that they are surrounded by so many beautiful girls every day, and no men, that they do not realize their value and yes, they actually think they might make a connection with you, and yes, a little money is great. Of course, it helps if you happens to be youthful, even if a little older. If you have no game and they are not attracted to you int he least, then yes, they will try to charge you top dollar.

[853413]"if not, they can be had quite cheaply".

Did you manage to sponsor some of them or is it just a supposition? From my experience, FSU students became proud and demanding those days. [ / QUOTE].

**How14** · 03-27-16 08:00

Originally Posted by StrawBoy [View Original Post]

As far as I know, Everyone in Dominican Republic makes at least 200 dollars a month. It is easy to have sex with a good looking young girl for 40 dollars.

In Ukraine, people make so much less than Dominican Republic. But the girl is way more expensive. My friend just came back from Kiev, and every girl wants at least 100 dollars if she is young and attractive.

It seems insane to me.

Regards.

More utter bullshit on here, do any of you have a clue what's going on in Kyiv? All girls not $100, unless your a mug, and plenty of you on here are mugs, there are plenty of $50 8/10 girls out there FFS, you are all still whining on about mongering in Russia etc etc, writing Ukraine off as expensive, and "no quality girls here anymore" is ridiculous, of course, you all go looking in the wrong places, now you talk about students, etc, to get on the case with students, you need time, and you need a game. As far as I can see here it looks like you are all ready to quit Ukraine. Ukraine is cheapest its ever been.

**Traveller22** · 03-26-16 21:20

I am afraid that "thanks to" the social networks and their thousand of thirsty admirers worlwide, those pretty Ukrainian girls know perfectly well their market value now, notwithstanding the current very poor economical situation of the country.

**LuisVega11** · 03-26-16 19:33

If you go tourist place, talk with girl already fucked by thousand guy in their life, go to arena mostly. Yes they ask you 100 or more especially if you are not anything to write home or they don't like you.

Personally I doubt you can have 8-10 for 100 dollar. People always say 8-10 but they have not idea what 8-10 in Kiev are. Most 8-10 don't walk in the street or go arena.

For 80 you can have good girl. Stunning maybe for you.

This is for pay only.

But.

Kiev is full of stunning girl undiscovered. 18 19 girl, that with make up and fancy dress became stunning to the eyes of the casual tourist. Clearly to meet this girl you must go outside center, work hard in the street. Most of this girl don't even ask money, or just some in case they need. You need time and skills. Is the same going in smaller city or less touristic.

Anyway 100 dollar for some girl in Kiev are nothing and really not comparable with Cuban or Dominican girls.

**Mombie75** · 03-26-16 18:05

Originally Posted by StrawBoy [View Original Post]

As far as I know, Everyone in Dominican Republic makes at least 200 dollars a month. It is easy to have sex with a good looking young girl for 40 dollars.

In Ukraine, people make so much less than Dominican Republic. But the girl is way more expensive. My friend just came back from Kiev, and every girl wants at least 100 dollars if she is young and attractive.

It seems insane to me.

Regards.

Yes on my trips to Kiev in the past the girls do not go cheap, they know they are stunning for the most part so they do not give it up easily, I had a couple of 8/10 and both charged $80 for an hour and 2-3 pops.

**StrawBoy** · 03-26-16 15:18

As far as I know, Everyone in Dominican Republic makes at least 200 dollars a month. It is easy to have sex with a good looking young girl for 40 dollars.

In Ukraine, people make so much less than Dominican Republic. But the girl is way more expensive. My friend just came back from Kiev, and every girl wants at least 100 dollars if she is young and attractive.

It seems insane to me.

Regards.

Originally Posted by DudeNextDoor [View Original Post]

Do you really know if she makes 350 usd in her vanilla life? I bet she makes 3500 UAH tops. I met a young engineer girl in Odessa. She lived with her parents. She did not even make 3500 uah a month including over time at her 5 year experience full time engineer job.

I have 2 advice:

1) remember Ukranian girls are smart and can lie any moment and you would not feel about it. Dude, you are not in Kansas city anymore!

2) By sponsoring her, you are making her life more colorful. Taking her to fancy dinners, staying with you in a high end flat or 5 star hotel. Drinking top notch wine with you etc etc. Just pay her cash in grivnas weekly. Each week just enough to buy a dress or a shoe. She will keep coming back!

I know 500 usd is about 1 hour time with an escort in USA but remember being in a very poor country, act accordingly! Your Money will make wonders in Ukraine. Enjoy it!

**DudeNextDoor** · 03-26-16 07:47

Do you really know if she makes 350 usd in her vanilla life? I bet she makes 3500 UAH tops. I met a young engineer girl in Odessa. She lived with her parents. She did not even make 3500 uah a month including over time at her 5 year experience full time engineer job.

I have 2 advice:

1) remember Ukranian girls are smart and can lie any moment and you would not feel about it. Dude, you are not in Kansas city anymore!

2) By sponsoring her, you are making her life more colorful. Taking her to fancy dinners, staying with you in a high end flat or 5 star hotel. Drinking top notch wine with you etc etc. Just pay her cash in grivnas weekly. Each week just enough to buy a dress or a shoe. She will keep coming back!

I know 500 usd is about 1 hour time with an escort in USA but remember being in a very poor country, act accordingly! Your Money will make wonders in Ukraine. Enjoy it!

Originally Posted by Muddy7 [View Original Post]

Her salary is $350, you want her to leave her work? And offering $500 a month? Maybe its not a good idea.

Also right now 1 dollar is 26 grn, are you willing to pay more later like $1000? Who knows maybe a year from now its 13-1.

I met a girl in Kiev, she makes only 4500 grn every month, working in a restuarant as an admiinistrator, her rent is 2500 gn, I'm thinking of offering her 7000 grn / month, wonder what she would say.

I think you need to think in terms of grn not dollars.

**Muddy7** · 03-26-16 03:33

Originally Posted by YellowPaul [View Original Post]

I know this is not a easy question but what is considered a fair monthly amount for sponsorship?

I have my current girl in Kharhov, who I need to be available when I need and not have restrictions due to work to meet when I want.

She is making $350 US a month and lives with her parents (so no rent) but seems reluctant since she knows this way she would become totally dependant on me. I offered her $500 US a month.

Any advice from guys that have done sponsorship with Ukrainians or Russians would be appreciated.

Her salary is $350, you want her to leave her work? And offering $500 a month? Maybe its not a good idea.

Also right now 1 dollar is 26 grn, are you willing to pay more later like $1000? Who knows maybe a year from now its 13-1.

I met a girl in Kiev, she makes only 4500 grn every month, working in a restaurant as an administrator, her rent is 2500 gn, I'm thinking of offering her 7000 grn / month, wonder what she would say.

I think you need to think in terms of grn not dollars.

**Tomek123** · 03-24-16 15:50

Originally Posted by Riina [View Original Post]

Good post Suka. I think as traveling hobbyists we underestimate the importance of a girl's reputation. Devs could fly stealth before the days of FB and VK. That said, you always have to remember that Ukrainians love secret friends.

Yes, many girls have regular guys but do not have enough money. Young guy in Ukraine can not in most cases be a good sponsor. It's just a friend or loved one, and sex partner. So foreigners in Ukraine has always have a good chance for the abuse of young girls. Also in the big cities of Ukraine girls less careful. They are less afraid of losing reputation and more looseness.