Kyiv

[Epicurus]

I am comfortable meeting beautiful women and asking for phone numbers and bringing them to a bed somewhere, when possible. Yet, offering them monetary compensation is very new to Me. I tried it tonight to start adding the skill.

Mainly seems that I am working past My own concepts about it. Was talking with a girl tonight that was flirty and seemed like she was open to amateur freelancing (yes I just invented that word) and was using Google translate in public asking her. And maybe the letters were too large in a public place for her to say okay.

So anyway. She kinda waffled from into it to acting mildly fake insulted.

Basically if she spoke English it would have been easier, obviously. I already speak Japanese because of women. Not so interested in learning Russian right now. If the political climate in Russia was nicer, I would consider learning Russian to be more valuable as there would be more available model style women to date using the language.

I have basically observed that, in Ukraine, like other relatively low income nations like China, women seem that they would literally date a fat turd if it spoke the language and had enough cash.

I would actually like to make a big plastic turd, put a speaker inside it, and put it in a nice car with tinted windows. Then remotely "roll up" on chicks to see how they respond. Have some guy talking to them with a mic remotely. See if the women would get in the nice car and roll with any fat disgusting turd.

Would they? Hmmm. Maybe only the chicks with the caked on make-up and ridiculously high heels.

I have no doubt that there are some that would.

I speak some Russian and that helps a lot indeed.

Many of the times I have lunch or dinner, I invite a girl to come along with me. I like to have my food in the companionship of a pretty girl. Usually I never have to spend more than 300 or 400 Grivn, much less than what I usually spend on myself if I go out to have a bite in Holland. Doesn't always lead to sex on the first date, or second or third, and with three girls I still haven't after more than 5. But one is a good hairdresser, so she cuts my hair whenever I am in Kiev, another girl always manages to make me laugh whenever she's with me and another girl is just stunningly beautiful in a classy way and I notice that people and other girls regard me very differently even admiringly when I am with her.

Funny thing is that the girl who makes me laugh has told her friends about me, and now this very beautiful girl has contacted me on vk.com to ask if I want to meet up with her in September, but to not tell her friend about it. Don't really know how to go about this. Could be a trap or a test, but she's really cute and much prettier than the girl who makes me laugh.

Anyway, my tip is if you want regular ( so no pro or semi-pro) girls, the slow game in general works en is also enjoyable albeit in a different way. It also helps that I come to Kiev about four times a year, but in total not more than a month, and you are staying in Kiev for more than a month.

[Muddy7]

I liked the club scene, but you have to be motivated to hunt. Just stay away from the glamour clubs where flashy Western dudes fag out with the super models and nobody gets laid.

Sharp post.

[Jelly Donut]

Any suggestions for hot spots where street hookers walk, and some idea on pricing?

I went through this thread earlier this year, with the same kind of questions in mind. This is what I found.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...411&viewfull=1#post1698411.

It doesn't answer your question on pricing, someone may be able to help with that.

[Eszpresszo]

Hey guys,

I'm "shoring" with some more mature females (my age) in Kiev and am looking to swoop down to Kiev later in the fall. However, being the dog that I am, I would be looking for some action on the side, especially if things don't go the way I think they should. There has been many comments about using various methods for picking up girls. But, what is the street scene like? Sometimes getting down and dirty is the thing to do, especially if you are on your way out of town, headed for Berlin. Any suggestions for hot spots where street hookers walk, and some idea on pricing?

[Bill1963]

You simply overpay a semipro girl a lot of money considering her position.

200 dollar for an overnight with a girl living with mother no work, it' absolutely outrageous in this moment in Kiev. And you are simply.

Inflating the market.

This girl accepted because, even if she acted the part of the saint mary virgin, she lives of this and is simply acting with you the game she knows perfectly.

You are even a resident in Kiev as you told, and really it surprises me you need so much money to fuck a girl like this.

In this moment in Kiev with 200 you can even fuck top model for 2 hours.

This girl probably with the right guy would have come home with no more than 2000 gryvna, and she would have been very happy.

Probably she will change mind now, asking 200 dollar to anybody in future, and her friends too.

Good way to inflate the situation.

You are a bancomat from now on. 800 dollar month! To fuck 4 times a girl in Kiev?

And you even say this with pride. Britons and americans are the first cause of Kiev going mad in the last years. They can't have girl in normal way so they overpay.

And that's it.

You babbled crap without really reading his post.

The girl was a non pro.

Sometimes a guy needs to go overboard the first time to lure a.

Good girl in the first time.

Once they do it the first time its easy for subsequent fucks.

I use this tactic all the time.

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[Arkiloko]

Arkiloko, you mixed up Kiev with Germany. Kiev is not in Germany and that's not Berlin or some other big cities in Germany. You will get only a massage in these massages salon. In google you can not find the brothels in Kiev and FKK, let me know if you find one of them there. Better going to Germany, Austria, Switzerland if you want to enjoy FKK.

You're right man, but I'm going to Kiev, so I'd like to find them there. I already found them in Germany.

[Volpone]

I will be soon in Kiev and I need help from those, who have been recently in a brothel in Kiev. I was there last year, so I know a few places.

Does anyone has some infos about Brothels apartment in Kiev?

You can message me here. I will go to these places and some new one that I could find. In return, I will give you my feedback, so you will know that the place is still open or still at the same address or a new address where to go.

Thanks in advance for you help guys.

[Volpone]

Hi, I'll be in Kiev in August for some days. Not too much time to waste. I'd like some fresh informations about salons scene in the city.
In an easy google search I saw there are even too much. Roksolana, Allure, Simona, Decolte... and so on...
If I'm right, I think they don't offer just massages.

Are these places safe?
Is there any place you guys can recommend?
Is there any kind of FKK too?

Thanks.

Arkiloko, you mixed up Kiev with Germany. Kiev is not in Germany and that's not Berlin or some other big cities in Germany. You will get only a massage in these massages salon. In google you can not find the brothels in Kiev and FKK, let me know if you find one of them there. Better going to Germany, Austria, Switzerland if you want to enjoy FKK.

[Arkiloko]

Hi,

I'll be in Kiev in August for some days. Not too much time to waste. I'd like some fresh information about salons scene in the city.
In an easy google search I saw there are even too much. Roksolana, Allure, Simona, Decolte... and so on...
If I'm right, I think they don't offer just massages.

Are these places safe?
Is there any place you guys can recommend?
Is there any kind of FKK too?

Thanks.

[Volpone]

I think most of us do. If you've been on Mamba, most girls looking for sponsors request in USD. On this site we normally speak in USD or Euro as it's easy to understand and there is no need to look up the exchange rate. If I make a report on here about a meeting with a woman, I usually report in USD although I'm paying the girl in UAH or in Minsk in Belarusian roubles. I don't think I am alone in this.

That's right Gopnik, they always request in USD, but it's easy to ask for a lower price in UAH and then you can quite often get a better price.

[Gopnik]

Thank you Gopnik for another excellent report about the reality of sponsoring young hotties in Kiev.

Newbies to the scene of sponsoring need to realize that they need to work at it and have the right attributes to get such great returns.

Try to introduce her to the 3 some scene with a girl of her choice. Two is company, 3 is a great party.

It took me nearly 2 months and many live calls and emails to get my first sponsored 20's girl into bed. Six years later she is now one of my best friends and the talent spotter for both of us.

Jojo,

Most of what I know started with what you told me way back in 2011 when I went to Minsk for the first time. I just grew from there, brother.

I prefer to chase girls off the grid now. It's far more of a challenge. Living in Kyiv, I can get a regular girlfriend and bang the shit out of her, no problem, but once in a while I like to chase a 19-23 year old hottie who will try stepping out of her element and give sponsorship a try. It doesn't always work and I find it more expensive than some skank from Mamba. However, the results are normally wonderful, like with Darina. As for a threesome, got to get her in a complete comfort zone and depending on the money, then move in for the kill. Always good to hear from you, Jojo!

[Gopnik]

You simply overpay a semipro girl a lot of money considering her position.

200 dollar for an overnight with a girl living with mother no work, it' absolutely outrageous in this moment in Kiev. And you are simply.

Inflating the market.

This girl accepted because, even if she acted the part of the saint mary virgin, she lives of this and is simply acting with you the game she knows perfectly.

You are even a resident in Kiev as you told, and really it surprises me you need so much money to fuck a girl like this.

In this moment in Kiev with 200 you can even fuck top model for 2 hours...

Judging from your response, you did not read my report at all. You need to practice your reading comprehension skills as your response is completely inaccurate. First, I paid her, a non-pro girl, 200 USD for a first meeting. She is not semi-pro. I know this girl, she never has done this before therefore I had to overpay to get her to agree to move from being a regular girl to trying sponsorship. I also said I never normally would pay 200 USD. I normally pay 100 USD or less in Kyiv or Minsk. This is a special circumstance. I also said I would pay her 100 USD for each meeting afterwards, which she agreed to. So, 800 a month for 8 fucks. She's definitely worth it especially since she stayed with me for 4 hours last night and was far from the robotic experience you get with pro's. I could've gotten a chick from Mamba for 1500 UAH but I don't want girls everyone else here is banging. I live in Kyiv so I chase girls off the grid, not on Mamba.

Last, I am not American or British.

[Gopnik]

Hi Gopnik. Thank you for your interesting report. For 100 $ for any normal girl or 200 $ for Darina (first visit) - how many hours she stays with you?

Ciao.

Misc.

As I wrote, I never pay 200 USD for a girl. However, Darina is not a usual girl so I wanted to really tempt her. It worked. However, when I normally sponsor a girl, I never pay more than 100 USD. She spent 4 hours at my flat last night.

[Gopnik]

Why guys do you bargain in dollars?

The best way for prices with girls are UAH. You can always get a better price.

Bargaining is something normal to do, that's a business that you do with these girls, so that's absolutely normal to get a better price. She will start high and you will start with a low price in Grivnias or UAH. Then you will find a compromise. Forget $, , or Euro when you are in Kiev, just think in UAH. Then it will better for all of us.

I think most of us do. If you've been on Mamba, most girls looking for sponsors request in USD. On this site we normally speak in USD or Euro as it's easy to understand and there is no need to look up the exchange rate. If I make a report on here about a meeting with a woman, I usually report in USD although I'm paying the girl in UAH or in Minsk in Belarusian roubles. I don't think I am alone in this.

[Volpone]

Why guys do you bargain in dollars?

The best way for prices with girls are UAH. You can always get a better price.

Bargaining is something normal to do, that's a business that you do with these girls, so that's absolutely normal to get a better price. She will start high and you will start with a low price in Grivnias or UAH. Then you will find a compromise. Forget $, , or Euro when you are in Kiev, just think in UAH. Then it will better for all of us.