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  1. #21443
    Detailed report. My experience with Apartments and SA was positive. But considering the current covid situation most of the top quality girls would be sitting it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avivis  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    Here is my full report regarding Kiev (Kyiv), Ukraine in April during the Corona time and lock down.

    A bit about me, 45 years old, quit good looking. I have some money but not super rich, yet a few times per year I get to a different country or return to a favorite country for some fun activity. Please read my previous reports regarding other*places I have been. Of course my favorite countries are Brazil, Colombia and Germany. A bit Spain I would say maybe too. I really enjoy value-per-money types of girls. Hence, I don't have a problem paying high amount of money to a very good high class lady or a small amount of money to a quick fuck. Of course the best value will be a small amount for good service (Colombia) or amazing service for a huge amount of money (Germany). The worst will be paying a high amount of money for bad service. I usually don't do street activity, since I have more to spend I prefer high class escorts, FKKs, private girls and some strip clubs..

  2. #21442
    Did you try SA in Kyiv? How would anyone here rate the scene in SA for Ukraine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Avivis  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    Here is my full report regarding Kiev (Kyiv), Ukraine in April during the Corona time and lock down.

    A bit about me, 45 years old, quit good looking. I have some money but not super rich, yet a few times per year I get to a different country or return to a favorite country for some fun activity. Please read my previous reports regarding other*places I have been. Of course my favorite countries are Brazil, Colombia and Germany. A bit Spain I would say maybe too. I really enjoy value-per-money types of girls. Hence, I don't have a problem paying high amount of money to a very good high class lady or a small amount of money to a quick fuck. Of course the best value will be a small amount for good service (Colombia) or amazing service for a huge amount of money (Germany). The worst will be paying a high amount of money for bad service. I usually don't do street activity, since I have more to spend I prefer high class escorts, FKKs, private girls and some strip clubs.

    So here is my report for Kiev for being the first time in Ukraine, Kyiv.

    The main reason for going to Kyiv is searching for high class ladies for a lower amount than usual. I once took a Czech girl with me for 3 days to a beach resort, she was very sexy with anal and rimming service and price was 3,000 Euros. So I thought I could find a girl to sponsor in Kyiv and some GFE and later on establish a longer relationship with her and have her bringing her friends for sexy time for longer period. (I once also took a high class Dutch girl for 3 days for a higher amount). So what I am searching for is a reliable escort lady I can trust and I know she will be waiting for me and who gives great services and also looks good of course. I am willing to pay though if it is a high quality. So after well known traveling to Germany (my favourite) and other countries I have decided to try Kyiv.

    Basically, Kyiv did not stand to my expectation. It was not bad, but it was not good either. I might be back again just to make sure I am not mistaken but basically I would prefer Colombia, Brazil, Spain or Germany.

    TL; DR;.

    - No good escort service: not reliable, fake photos, photoshop photos.

    - Most of the photos are heavily heavily photoshopped.

    - Prices are high (not super high, but comparing to the level received).

    - Need to work very hard and have many false in order to find some gems.

    - You can still find some gems but just after long searching.

    - Tinder works but not strong enough.

    - Strip club was nice.

    Situation is quite bad in Ukraine economically, many girls don't have money for taxis even so they want you to pay ahead, which I never do. I always tell the lady, come, if I don't like you I will at least pay for your taxi between 300 UAH to 500 UAH. But you see the girls are very very suspicious. Not like Germany where they have trust. Here there is no trust so it is very hard to plan ahead and I like to plan ahead.

    CoronaVirus status +* traveling:

    Ukraine and Kyiv is full of the virus. I am already vaccinated so I was less worried. Almost no one is using a mask. Even though Kyiv is officially in lockdown until the end of April (and maybe will be extended more) there are still many places open under the radar, private parties and restaurants and also some strip clubs. But it is not the great and amazing atmosphere of parties they used to have as I heard. In order to get into the country you need a PCR test from the last 72 hours (you also need enough cash money for the duration of staying and an insurance of an Ukrainian insurance company covering COVID-19 expenses,*please read more here: https://visitukraine.today/ you can also buy insurance there. I did it). Probably you will also need to test PCR test before leaving the country too, so you can do it in Median (Yaroslavska St, 55, Kyiv, Ukraine, 04071), a very nice place to test COVID-19 inside Kyiv for 800 UAH (30 USD) and you can get the results in 24 H by email in English.

    Hotel:

    I have stayed at the Radisson Blu hotel in the center, Yaroslaviv Val 22. It was a very nice hotel, value for money and quite close to everything. Good thing, they don't care how many girls you*bring to your room and they did not ask any questions. There are also other hotels, I might try another one which is just next to the Princess Strip Club next time I will visit.

    Communication:

    1. Buy a local SIM.

    2. Whatsapp works.

    3. Viber works better.

    Transportation:

    1. Uber works very well.

    2. They also have Uklon. But I never tried.

    3. Don't take regular taxis.

    First day,

    I met with a lady that waited for me at the airport, $50 USD per hour. I talked with her already before via whatsapp. She was very communicative. I asked her to wait for me with tight pants. I just love tight pants. She said no problem. When I got to the airport she waited for me with an ugly skirt. It is the girl from the photos alas the photos are very heavily photoshopped and she is 8 years older with a large belly. But at least the same girl. Anyway, we drove together to the hotel. If she was true, I would have taken her for the whole day, but since she wasn't good looking, I let her give me some rimming, paid her for two hours and then she left. Not what I was looking for. In her photo she looked 8 and real life she looked 6 or even 5.5. You are not the girl I was looking for. *https://topescortbabes.com/kiev/esco...58?18plus=true.

    I had another lady in my sleeve, one that had a very skinny body and does anal, also $150 USD for two hours. I asked her to come with tight pants. She said no problem. She did not have a face photo. We said she will come at 14:00. At 14:30 she wrote she is late. She arrived at 15:30. A small ugly girl, although skinny petite*body (authentic photos) but ugly face with crazy attitude (probably she was on cocaine) she couldn't stop moving. Anyhow, anal, rimming and go home. You are not the girl I was looking for.

    After those two fall down. I have decided to try an escort agency which I heard was quite good and reliable escort. Vc.

    I decided to take a 25 years old lady who does BDSM. I asked that she bring some toys. She arrived on time, she did bring many many BDSM toys. She is the girl from the photos. Alas. She is 31 years old and she looks way below her photoshopped photos and worse than all she hev green teeth and smells from cigarettes. Yuck, I paid her but hated every minute. $200 USD. *https://escort.vc/girl/eva14.

    I started to feel very very disappointed.

    There was another escort service which I talked with on whatsapp and sent me some interesting photos, but without face. I did not want to call a girl to my room again since I had so many disappointments. They gave me the address and I went there. I should have known better for the way that they explained to me how to get in. There is a large complex of buildings with many entrances when I get to the address with the Uber. So I ask them on whatsapp how to get in? And they say entrance*number 8. There is no entrance 8. So I searched again. Suddenly I see a girl who looks like a working girl so I thought she probably came from there. I ask her and she says take to the left and left again. Number 33. Ahhhhh. But this is entrance number 2!! Anyway I get in. Ugly building, ugly apartment, ugly place. They call all the girls out, around 12 girls. They sit on the sofas in front*and I have to choose. None of them looks very good but not disgusting either. Well, I came to try, so why not to try, since I am already there. I choose a nice young lady. $100 USD for 1 hours. Bad decision. The girl does not speak English and suddenly I see another lovely lady. I asked her to join too. Another $100 USD for 1 hour. Bad decision. At least she speaks English. They both come in and I am having one of the worst service in my life. They don't touch, they don't suck, they don't touch the balls. Bye Bye.

    Well, Thomas Edison once asked how he does not quit when none of his bulbs worked. He said "at least I discovered what is not working". So I discovered there is no high class service escort agency or good individual that works well in Kyiv. At least I discovered that.

    Second day,

    Very disappointed from the ordeal, I have decided to try Tinder. It is amazing to see how each country works differently, for example Tinder does not work well in Colombia at all, but works amazingly well in Russia. I had like 100 matches in Russia!! So I ran over Tinder. I get about 20 matches. But it is very slow to talk with the girls. Some are actually looking for relationships*but some move to whatsapp quite fast. I don't have time to waste on flirting, I am looking for those who are clearly working girls or at least looking for sponsors. Some make it quite difficult trying to play and ask "what will you give me" waiting for me to offer, and the others are more direct to the point. Between $100 USD to one or two hours, going up to $200 USD to $400 USD for all night or a few hours.

    Anyhow, there was a very nice cute girl who told me the truth directly: "I don't have work, I need money, Let's meet". She was very cute. So I met with her for coffee. She has a cute face, very authentic, and tells me it is her first time. Very petite. Not gorgeous, but authentic. Things are getting better. Unfortunately she does not look as good as I wish to have her for a longer period. She comes to my room. 2 hours. $100 USD. But she is very nice and charming. Cum in mouth. Really lovely girl but not stunning. I will not see her again. She is not the girl I was looking for.

    I tried another girl from escort. Vc. At least this one was cheaper a bit, $150 for an hour. She was the girl from the photos. They were not too much photoshopped and she looked quite good (7). But she was strange in her behaviour and I did not feel the intimacy I was searching for. Too mechanic. https://escort.vc/girl/vika7 - Also not the girl I was looking for.

    Here is a good thing. Before the Corona I was traveling a lot. Like every month, been to all South-America (Argentina, Ecuador, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, Panama and more, and also Europe, Mostly Germany but also Spain, Greece, Czeck Republic, Poland and also far east, Singapore, Hong-Kong and Japan) and this is the first time I tried this thing. There are local tour guides you can hire to show you the city. So I searched some tour guides in Kiev. And I found some nice diamonds there and frankly I don't know*why I haven't tried this thing before. Please notice, those are not working girls and you will not get anything sexual from them (although I think some might be open). Some of them are real tour guides with license etc', but others are local girls who wish to make some extra bucks and show you the city in authentic way, and some of them are even a bit more than that, I would say it something like a Geisha without anything sexual but you can hire a friend when they even state it, I will be your friend in Kiev (BTW you can find such local guides in other cities too and each one depends on her services. I will surely try next time). So I was chatting with a few, and one of the nicest local lady tour guides, 23 years old, offered to take me to a strip club. Now I was quite worried about stories I have heard how they take you to some dark joint and strip you of your money, but she was from a legitimate tour guide website with many reviews and I have decided to take my chance. I can also read people quite well and she looked very trustworthy. We met for a short coffee during lunch time, just to make sure she fit and also that she will get to know me. I have chatted with a few local tour guides, some were very offended when I offered some night life action or adult entertainment, but most of them were totally ok with it and offered to help me. *https://www.showaround.com/.

    She was amazing, she looked quite good, petite also, skinny, beautiful*face. She showed me around the city in a very cool way, took me to open restaurants, took photos of me and was really cool. Helped me to find a place to do the PCR test (see above) and was answering every question I had. She even transferred money for me for one of the girls using her mobile application and I paid her cash. She took $20 USD p / h at night and $15 USD p / h during day time and she was worth every penny.

    She took me to Princess Gentleman*Club. That was at least a good part of Kyiv. Although quite pricey it was quite cool. Beautiful dancing girls. Clean place. Not beautiful girls, sorry. Amazingly stunning girls. Young. Fit. Tall. From every flavour. She was really cool and fun!. She booked a great table. She helped me with translation and talked with the girls to negotiate what I liked. She was putting bills in the girls costumes and being there with me. The club was highly enjoyable. Sexy girls dancing on poles. Here are the prices in USD. $15 entrance. $20 for a lap dance of two long songs when the girl takes off everything, you can see her pussy and touch it a bit. You can touch their breasts and butt with no problem. And the girls know their work very well and dance virtuously. I enjoyed it very much. There are other options in the club, but I took the highest one and took a girl from the club to my room: $100 USD per hour. Even cheaper than the ugly disgusting escort they had; and you can see the girl and negotiate with her before* you take her to the hotel to make sure she stands in your expectations and also they give you a bottle of champagne*when you book the girl to your room. Please notice the time starts to count the moment the girl leaves the club, so as long as your hotel is closer is better. Next time I think I will take the hotel just above the club. There are two Princess Strip Clubs in Kiev. I have been to the one on Khreschatyk St, 14 which my tour guide said it is better.

    First night I took a very very sexy girl with a round ass for 3 hours to my hotel and she was very good. I enjoyed it so much, so on the third night I went again to the club (with my tour guide of course again) and I took another BDSM girl that was quite submissive and liked my fetishes. So the girls are sexy, better prices, better service. But again, I was looking for someone to sponsor for a longer time and those are not the girls I was looking for.

    What is still open and I haven't tried yet because I went back home and I need to try:

    A.

    There were a few more girls on Tinder and some other sites that looked independent and very sexy and the photos looked real that I should try next time. I have like 15 more numbers of sexy girls. Although the prices are a bit high, when you take them for longer period the price per hour drops drastically. The problem is I haven't found a good looking authentic independent girl in Kiev to want her. But I think I should try and search more because*it seems there is potential but still need to be checked if they are all liars or there are still some good things. I don't care to pay $1000 USD per night for a good looking trustable lady and take her around the world with me. Unfortunately I still haven't met one in Kiev. But I will give it another chance.

    B.

    Try some erotic massages. For example I discovered that in Poland / Warsaw and also sometimes in Germany you can find real nice girls in massage places. Where the prices are lower, and it is more respected so younger and nicer girls work there, but if they see that you pay good and you are a good looking guy you might establish a nice connection and exchange numbers and have the girl privately. It worked a few times for me in Poland and Germany and I should also try it in Kyiv / Ukraine.

    I still feel that between the huge amount of fake photos, scam and photoshop you can find some rough diamonds. I will check it on my second trip. But if this trip fails also. I will drop Ukraine from my list. This is a pity, Ukraine has beautiful girls and low prices. If they would be less scams and fakes and more trust. It could be a great place. But I guess if they would have been true and authentic their economy was also running better and then we should have called it Germany.

    So guys, enjoy, and please report your own experience too.

    I would love to receive your feedback, but please use nice words.

    Sorry for my English since it is not my mother tongue.

  3. #21441

    Avivis Kiev Report

    Great report. Can you tell me if the strip club girl does BBBJ?

    And how was the WIFI at Radisson Blue?

    Can I use my phone (USA) for WhatsApp without changing SIM?

    I plan to go in SEP for 2 weeks.

  4. #21440
    Quote Originally Posted by Avivis  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    Here is my full report regarding Kiev (Kyiv), Ukraine in April during the Corona time and lock down.

    A bit about me, 45 years old, quit good looking. I have some money but not super rich, yet a few times per year I get to a different country or return to a favorite country for some fun activity. Please read my previous reports regarding other*places I have been. Of course my favorite countries are Brazil, Colombia and Germany. A bit Spain I would say maybe too. I really enjoy value-per-money types of girls. Hence, I don't have a problem paying high amount of money to a very good high class lady or a small amount of money to a quick fuck. Of course the best value will be a small amount for good service (Colombia) or amazing service for a huge amount of money (Germany). The worst will be paying a high amount of money for bad service. I usually don't do street activity, since I have more to spend I prefer high class escorts, FKKs, private girls and some strip clubs.

    So here is my report for Kiev for being the first time in Ukraine, Kyiv..
    Awesome report. Finally guys are speaking the truth about Kiev. A lot work, full of scams and maybe you might get lucky. Kiev is average to mediocre at best! Guys pay attention to the work, money and time this guy put in, and for what bad service and average girls. You can be banging models all over the world for $200-300. If you want real hot girls Kiev is one of the last places I would go. For very average looking girls with high expectations, scams and fake profiles go to Kiev or better visit Odessa you will find exactly what you are looking for.

    Great report and thank you for your honesty.

  5. #21439

    Report: 4 days in Kiev / Kyiv Ukraine during Corona

    Hi all,

    Here is my full report regarding Kiev (Kyiv), Ukraine in April during the Corona time and lock down.

    A bit about me, 45 years old, quit good looking. I have some money but not super rich, yet a few times per year I get to a different country or return to a favorite country for some fun activity. Please read my previous reports regarding other*places I have been. Of course my favorite countries are Brazil, Colombia and Germany. A bit Spain I would say maybe too. I really enjoy value-per-money types of girls. Hence, I don't have a problem paying high amount of money to a very good high class lady or a small amount of money to a quick fuck. Of course the best value will be a small amount for good service (Colombia) or amazing service for a huge amount of money (Germany). The worst will be paying a high amount of money for bad service. I usually don't do street activity, since I have more to spend I prefer high class escorts, FKKs, private girls and some strip clubs.

    So here is my report for Kiev for being the first time in Ukraine, Kyiv.

    The main reason for going to Kyiv is searching for high class ladies for a lower amount than usual. I once took a Czech girl with me for 3 days to a beach resort, she was very sexy with anal and rimming service and price was 3,000 Euros. So I thought I could find a girl to sponsor in Kyiv and some GFE and later on establish a longer relationship with her and have her bringing her friends for sexy time for longer period. (I once also took a high class Dutch girl for 3 days for a higher amount). So what I am searching for is a reliable escort lady I can trust and I know she will be waiting for me and who gives great services and also looks good of course. I am willing to pay though if it is a high quality. So after well known traveling to Germany (my favourite) and other countries I have decided to try Kyiv.

    Basically, Kyiv did not stand to my expectation. It was not bad, but it was not good either. I might be back again just to make sure I am not mistaken but basically I would prefer Colombia, Brazil, Spain or Germany.

    TL; DR;.

    - No good escort service: not reliable, fake photos, photoshop photos.

    - Most of the photos are heavily heavily photoshopped.

    - Prices are high (not super high, but comparing to the level received).

    - Need to work very hard and have many false in order to find some gems.

    - You can still find some gems but just after long searching.

    - Tinder works but not strong enough.

    - Strip club was nice.

    Situation is quite bad in Ukraine economically, many girls don't have money for taxis even so they want you to pay ahead, which I never do. I always tell the lady, come, if I don't like you I will at least pay for your taxi between 300 UAH to 500 UAH. But you see the girls are very very suspicious. Not like Germany where they have trust. Here there is no trust so it is very hard to plan ahead and I like to plan ahead.

    CoronaVirus status +* traveling:

    Ukraine and Kyiv is full of the virus. I am already vaccinated so I was less worried. Almost no one is using a mask. Even though Kyiv is officially in lockdown until the end of April (and maybe will be extended more) there are still many places open under the radar, private parties and restaurants and also some strip clubs. But it is not the great and amazing atmosphere of parties they used to have as I heard. In order to get into the country you need a PCR test from the last 72 hours (you also need enough cash money for the duration of staying and an insurance of an Ukrainian insurance company covering COVID-19 expenses,*please read more here: https://visitukraine.today/ you can also buy insurance there. I did it). Probably you will also need to test PCR test before leaving the country too, so you can do it in Median (Yaroslavska St, 55, Kyiv, Ukraine, 04071), a very nice place to test COVID-19 inside Kyiv for 800 UAH (30 USD) and you can get the results in 24 H by email in English.

    Hotel:

    I have stayed at the Radisson Blu hotel in the center, Yaroslaviv Val 22. It was a very nice hotel, value for money and quite close to everything. Good thing, they don't care how many girls you*bring to your room and they did not ask any questions. There are also other hotels, I might try another one which is just next to the Princess Strip Club next time I will visit.

    Communication:

    1. Buy a local SIM.

    2. Whatsapp works.

    3. Viber works better.

    Transportation:

    1. Uber works very well.

    2. They also have Uklon. But I never tried.

    3. Don't take regular taxis.

    First day,

    I met with a lady that waited for me at the airport, $50 USD per hour. I talked with her already before via whatsapp. She was very communicative. I asked her to wait for me with tight pants. I just love tight pants. She said no problem. When I got to the airport she waited for me with an ugly skirt. It is the girl from the photos alas the photos are very heavily photoshopped and she is 8 years older with a large belly. But at least the same girl. Anyway, we drove together to the hotel. If she was true, I would have taken her for the whole day, but since she wasn't good looking, I let her give me some rimming, paid her for two hours and then she left. Not what I was looking for. In her photo she looked 8 and real life she looked 6 or even 5.5. You are not the girl I was looking for. *https://topescortbabes.com/kiev/esco...58?18plus=true.

    I had another lady in my sleeve, one that had a very skinny body and does anal, also $150 USD for two hours. I asked her to come with tight pants. She said no problem. She did not have a face photo. We said she will come at 14:00. At 14:30 she wrote she is late. She arrived at 15:30. A small ugly girl, although skinny petite*body (authentic photos) but ugly face with crazy attitude (probably she was on cocaine) she couldn't stop moving. Anyhow, anal, rimming and go home. You are not the girl I was looking for.

    After those two fall down. I have decided to try an escort agency which I heard was quite good and reliable escort. Vc.

    I decided to take a 25 years old lady who does BDSM. I asked that she bring some toys. She arrived on time, she did bring many many BDSM toys. She is the girl from the photos. Alas. She is 31 years old and she looks way below her photoshopped photos and worse than all she hev green teeth and smells from cigarettes. Yuck, I paid her but hated every minute. $200 USD. *https://escort.vc/girl/eva14.

    I started to feel very very disappointed.

    There was another escort service which I talked with on whatsapp and sent me some interesting photos, but without face. I did not want to call a girl to my room again since I had so many disappointments. They gave me the address and I went there. I should have known better for the way that they explained to me how to get in. There is a large complex of buildings with many entrances when I get to the address with the Uber. So I ask them on whatsapp how to get in? And they say entrance*number 8. There is no entrance 8. So I searched again. Suddenly I see a girl who looks like a working girl so I thought she probably came from there. I ask her and she says take to the left and left again. Number 33. Ahhhhh. But this is entrance number 2!! Anyway I get in. Ugly building, ugly apartment, ugly place. They call all the girls out, around 12 girls. They sit on the sofas in front*and I have to choose. None of them looks very good but not disgusting either. Well, I came to try, so why not to try, since I am already there. I choose a nice young lady. $100 USD for 1 hours. Bad decision. The girl does not speak English and suddenly I see another lovely lady. I asked her to join too. Another $100 USD for 1 hour. Bad decision. At least she speaks English. They both come in and I am having one of the worst service in my life. They don't touch, they don't suck, they don't touch the balls. Bye Bye.

    Well, Thomas Edison once asked how he does not quit when none of his bulbs worked. He said "at least I discovered what is not working". So I discovered there is no high class service escort agency or good individual that works well in Kyiv. At least I discovered that.

    Second day,

    Very disappointed from the ordeal, I have decided to try Tinder. It is amazing to see how each country works differently, for example Tinder does not work well in Colombia at all, but works amazingly well in Russia. I had like 100 matches in Russia!! So I ran over Tinder. I get about 20 matches. But it is very slow to talk with the girls. Some are actually looking for relationships*but some move to whatsapp quite fast. I don't have time to waste on flirting, I am looking for those who are clearly working girls or at least looking for sponsors. Some make it quite difficult trying to play and ask "what will you give me" waiting for me to offer, and the others are more direct to the point. Between $100 USD to one or two hours, going up to $200 USD to $400 USD for all night or a few hours.

    Anyhow, there was a very nice cute girl who told me the truth directly: "I don't have work, I need money, Let's meet". She was very cute. So I met with her for coffee. She has a cute face, very authentic, and tells me it is her first time. Very petite. Not gorgeous, but authentic. Things are getting better. Unfortunately she does not look as good as I wish to have her for a longer period. She comes to my room. 2 hours. $100 USD. But she is very nice and charming. Cum in mouth. Really lovely girl but not stunning. I will not see her again. She is not the girl I was looking for.

    I tried another girl from escort. Vc. At least this one was cheaper a bit, $150 for an hour. She was the girl from the photos. They were not too much photoshopped and she looked quite good (7). But she was strange in her behaviour and I did not feel the intimacy I was searching for. Too mechanic. https://escort.vc/girl/vika7 - Also not the girl I was looking for.

    Here is a good thing. Before the Corona I was traveling a lot. Like every month, been to all South-America (Argentina, Ecuador, Brazil, Peru, Colombia, Panama and more, and also Europe, Mostly Germany but also Spain, Greece, Czeck Republic, Poland and also far east, Singapore, Hong-Kong and Japan) and this is the first time I tried this thing. There are local tour guides you can hire to show you the city. So I searched some tour guides in Kiev. And I found some nice diamonds there and frankly I don't know*why I haven't tried this thing before. Please notice, those are not working girls and you will not get anything sexual from them (although I think some might be open). Some of them are real tour guides with license etc', but others are local girls who wish to make some extra bucks and show you the city in authentic way, and some of them are even a bit more than that, I would say it something like a Geisha without anything sexual but you can hire a friend when they even state it, I will be your friend in Kiev (BTW you can find such local guides in other cities too and each one depends on her services. I will surely try next time). So I was chatting with a few, and one of the nicest local lady tour guides, 23 years old, offered to take me to a strip club. Now I was quite worried about stories I have heard how they take you to some dark joint and strip you of your money, but she was from a legitimate tour guide website with many reviews and I have decided to take my chance. I can also read people quite well and she looked very trustworthy. We met for a short coffee during lunch time, just to make sure she fit and also that she will get to know me. I have chatted with a few local tour guides, some were very offended when I offered some night life action or adult entertainment, but most of them were totally ok with it and offered to help me. *https://www.showaround.com/.

    She was amazing, she looked quite good, petite also, skinny, beautiful*face. She showed me around the city in a very cool way, took me to open restaurants, took photos of me and was really cool. Helped me to find a place to do the PCR test (see above) and was answering every question I had. She even transferred money for me for one of the girls using her mobile application and I paid her cash. She took $20 USD p / h at night and $15 USD p / h during day time and she was worth every penny.

    She took me to Princess Gentleman*Club. That was at least a good part of Kyiv. Although quite pricey it was quite cool. Beautiful dancing girls. Clean place. Not beautiful girls, sorry. Amazingly stunning girls. Young. Fit. Tall. From every flavour. She was really cool and fun!. She booked a great table. She helped me with translation and talked with the girls to negotiate what I liked. She was putting bills in the girls costumes and being there with me. The club was highly enjoyable. Sexy girls dancing on poles. Here are the prices in USD. $15 entrance. $20 for a lap dance of two long songs when the girl takes off everything, you can see her pussy and touch it a bit. You can touch their breasts and butt with no problem. And the girls know their work very well and dance virtuously. I enjoyed it very much. There are other options in the club, but I took the highest one and took a girl from the club to my room: $100 USD per hour. Even cheaper than the ugly disgusting escort they had; and you can see the girl and negotiate with her before* you take her to the hotel to make sure she stands in your expectations and also they give you a bottle of champagne*when you book the girl to your room. Please notice the time starts to count the moment the girl leaves the club, so as long as your hotel is closer is better. Next time I think I will take the hotel just above the club. There are two Princess Strip Clubs in Kiev. I have been to the one on Khreschatyk St, 14 which my tour guide said it is better.

    First night I took a very very sexy girl with a round ass for 3 hours to my hotel and she was very good. I enjoyed it so much, so on the third night I went again to the club (with my tour guide of course again) and I took another BDSM girl that was quite submissive and liked my fetishes. So the girls are sexy, better prices, better service. But again, I was looking for someone to sponsor for a longer time and those are not the girls I was looking for.

    What is still open and I haven't tried yet because I went back home and I need to try:

    A.

    There were a few more girls on Tinder and some other sites that looked independent and very sexy and the photos looked real that I should try next time. I have like 15 more numbers of sexy girls. Although the prices are a bit high, when you take them for longer period the price per hour drops drastically. The problem is I haven't found a good looking authentic independent girl in Kiev to want her. But I think I should try and search more because*it seems there is potential but still need to be checked if they are all liars or there are still some good things. I don't care to pay $1000 USD per night for a good looking trustable lady and take her around the world with me. Unfortunately I still haven't met one in Kiev. But I will give it another chance.

    B.

    Try some erotic massages. For example I discovered that in Poland / Warsaw and also sometimes in Germany you can find real nice girls in massage places. Where the prices are lower, and it is more respected so younger and nicer girls work there, but if they see that you pay good and you are a good looking guy you might establish a nice connection and exchange numbers and have the girl privately. It worked a few times for me in Poland and Germany and I should also try it in Kyiv / Ukraine.

    I still feel that between the huge amount of fake photos, scam and photoshop you can find some rough diamonds. I will check it on my second trip. But if this trip fails also. I will drop Ukraine from my list. This is a pity, Ukraine has beautiful girls and low prices. If they would be less scams and fakes and more trust. It could be a great place. But I guess if they would have been true and authentic their economy was also running better and then we should have called it Germany.

    So guys, enjoy, and please report your own experience too.

    I would love to receive your feedback, but please use nice words.

    Sorry for my English since it is not my mother tongue.

  6. #21438
    No need to regret. You never know if her sponsor had a good time with her. Ukrainian girls are generally good looking and they are very careful to maintain their looks. My limited experience is that they could be real gold diggers if you aren't careful. I was clear about what I'the be willing to spend and what I wouldn't be. So, I didn't overspend. But for the girl I enjoyed with in Barcelona, I made an exception and bought her a nice gift on the last day of our time together. I'm ok to spend extra bucks if my experience goes well. Coming to the couch surfing girl, It needed a nice dinner and drinks to loosen her up and enjoy. I had some nice wine which I got as a gift. I kept it unopened as I'm not much of a wine drinker. She downed the bottle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    Several years ago when I was still in California, I was on mamba and in communication with girls in Kiev and also with Slavic girls in the US. I suddenly received a message from a Ukrainian girl (who looked beautiful on photo) that went something like, "I am in NY. If you think in the same way as I do, get me a flight ticket from NY to Cali and show me around. I also want to go to Las Vegas." I was not aware of this strategy at the time and was not willing to pay for her flight, so I said, "If you manage to come out to Cali, I will accommodate you and show you around." A few weeks later, when I asked her what's happening, she said, "Someone else already got me the flight ticket, and we are on our way to Las Vegas! So f*** off.".

    I wish I had known this strategy and had gotten her the ticket, LOL.

    I think this strategy can be still going on today (before and after the pandemic). Some shady agencies in Ukraine provide Ukrainian students with US student visas, who go to the US and work and travel rather than study. This has been going on for years.

  7. #21437
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoCowboy  [View Original Post]
    Yes she was a student and she sent a normal request to stay. Sex wasn't pre planned actually.

    Cheers!
    Several years ago when I was still in California, I was on mamba and in communication with girls in Kiev and also with Slavic girls in the US. I suddenly received a message from a Ukrainian girl (who looked beautiful on photo) that went something like, "I am in NY. If you think in the same way as I do, get me a flight ticket from NY to Cali and show me around. I also want to go to Las Vegas." I was not aware of this strategy at the time and was not willing to pay for her flight, so I said, "If you manage to come out to Cali, I will accommodate you and show you around." A few weeks later, when I asked her what's happening, she said, "Someone else already got me the flight ticket, and we are on our way to Las Vegas! So f*** off.".

    I wish I had known this strategy and had gotten her the ticket, LOL.

    I think this strategy can be still going on today (before and after the pandemic). Some shady agencies in Ukraine provide Ukrainian students with US student visas, who go to the US and work and travel rather than study. This has been going on for years.

  8. #21436
    Yes she was a student and she sent a normal request to stay. Sex wasn't pre planned actually.

    Cheers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorbonne  [View Original Post]
    Out of curiosity, was this one of those occasions when a Ukrainian girl comes to the US as a student, works to make some money, travels around the US while she can, and say "if you host me, you get what you want?" LOL.

  9. #21435
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoCowboy  [View Original Post]
    I hosted one Ukrainian girl on Couchsurfing in Palo Alto. She stayed for 3 nights. Had great fun on 2/3 nights.
    Out of curiosity, was this one of those occasions when a Ukrainian girl comes to the US as a student, works to make some money, travels around the US while she can, and say "if you host me, you get what you want?" LOL.

  10. #21434
    I guess I got lucky with the Ukrainian girl in Barcelona. I hosted one Ukrainian girl on Couchsurfing in Palo Alto. She stayed for 3 nights. Had great fun on 2/3 nights. She was tired the first night. She is in Kyiv now. Keeps inviting me to come over. Hopefully some day. I definitely want to visit Ukraine.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    In January 2014 I met an Ukrainian girl Tatiana in Madrid at one of the establishments. She was polite, but mechanical. Another girl that I had great time with while in Kiev in December 2018, moved to Barcelona. She was outstanding while in Kiev, great body of a volleyball player, superb performance in bed. We are still in touch, but her photos reflect inevitable changes. Enhanced lips, jaded attitude.

    IMHO it is better to experience Ukrainian girls in Ukraine. Just like in Miami 2015 I had a Brazilian girl from Manaus. Not bad at all, but no comparison to visiting Termas Monte Carlo Rio de Janeiro in person.

  11. #21433
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoCowboy  [View Original Post]
    There was no need to get offended. I did experience having a great time with a Ukrainian girl in Barcelona. She was very reasonable in terms of her allowance. I tried to find similar gems but it didn't work. I believe in pay for play and if they don't match my expectations in terms of looks, attitude and performance in the bed it's of no use. I'm willing to pay good allowance if the girl meets my expectations.
    In January 2014 I met an Ukrainian girl Tatiana in Madrid at one of the establishments. She was polite, but mechanical. Another girl that I had great time with while in Kiev in December 2018, moved to Barcelona. She was outstanding while in Kiev, great body of a volleyball player, superb performance in bed. We are still in touch, but her photos reflect inevitable changes. Enhanced lips, jaded attitude.

    IMHO it is better to experience Ukrainian girls in Ukraine. Just like in Miami 2015 I had a Brazilian girl from Manaus. Not bad at all, but no comparison to visiting Termas Monte Carlo Rio de Janeiro in person.

  12. #21432

    Strip Clubs: style of girls?

    James, Imoraig: thanks for club update! For us who like big curves more than thin. Are there a good selection of also big boob (silicone) girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Imoraig  [View Original Post]
    Rio and Totsie which is same management has the best ladies most days.....Rino or other stripclubs but I don't think so. Only Princess Strip club could be equal or better than Rio and Totsie in girls I think. Anyone differing please share info.

  13. #21431
    There was no need to get offended. I did experience having a great time with a Ukrainian girl in Barcelona. She was very reasonable in terms of her allowance. I tried to find similar gems but it didn't work. I believe in pay for play and if they don't match my expectations in terms of looks, attitude and performance in the bed it's of no use. I'm willing to pay good allowance if the girl meets my expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoSlider  [View Original Post]
    Glad you weren't offended by my candor. Hopefully the message doesn't come across as patronizing.

    I still think young Ukrainian females are the best around the Globe. Friend currently visiting Kiev sent a video yesterday, confirming my admiration and undying addiction. Sweetest ever!

    Please do not ask for referrals, as I do not have any. Very few regulars are not for advertising, and some of them are either married or even having babies. And I remember holding their beautiful butts in my hands.

  14. #21430
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoCowboy  [View Original Post]
    Wonderful insight into the psyche of Ukrainian girls. Thanks a ton bro.
    Glad you weren't offended by my candor. Hopefully the message doesn't come across as patronizing.

    I still think young Ukrainian females are the best around the Globe. Friend currently visiting Kiev sent a video yesterday, confirming my admiration and undying addiction. Sweetest ever!

    Please do not ask for referrals, as I do not have any. Very few regulars are not for advertising, and some of them are either married or even having babies. And I remember holding their beautiful butts in my hands.

  15. #21429
    Quote Originally Posted by MarlboroRed  [View Original Post]
    I keep on seeing the banners, and I did check them out on their telegraph channel, but has anyone tried them? Seems like a free for all site, so I guess it is a bit of a hit and miss?
    You have to pay to be able to contact the girls, who'll mainly charge from 200 $ and up per hour. If you contact and won't get the desired appointment, what do you think happens to your money you paid to be able to contact her? I was told they'd return it. Somehow I'm a bit suspicious of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReinerOtto  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, lockdown in Kiev extended to 30-April.
    My flight was cancelled and so I had to postpone the trip couple more months. It's been a year I have wanted to go there, waiting for it. I doubt the experience can live up to the expectations.

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