Kyiv

[John Steed]

Yes I clicked the links. There is a bunch of photos of girls; with prices and pics. Some photos look novice; like they may be real. Some have so called "verified pics."

[PedroToronja]

My girlfriend in Kiev tells me casinos are now illegal in Ukraine and have been closed down. She used to go and play poker, and there still is a place where this is possible. But now the bets are so high that it is impossible for her to join. I guess if you are an oligarch and are interested, I would be glad to help.

Premier Palace hotel has a working casino by the lobby bar

[Member #4491]

Is this web-site worthwhile?

Looks 100% fake. Did you even bother to click the links?

B.

[John Steed]

Is this web-site worthwhile? Are the pics legit?

http://davalochki.com/

[Cruiser D]

Way to go.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1379861]Me and this girl are chatting every other day and are having fun, so I will keep her on the radar. I suggested we should "just be friends and keep in contact to practice English and Russian". This woke her up a little.

[Michae]

I was in Ukraine two one time. In Kyiv and in Odesa.

In Odesa disco very pleased on the beach of &1048; &1090; &1072; &1082; &1072; and &1048; &1073; &1080; &1094; &1072; . A very beautiful opera theater is in this city.

Quite recently was in Kyiv. Friends advised to go down in www.dlux.com.ua, skybar. Ua, also to try an erotic massage http://hotmassage.kiev.ua/. Massage it something interesting. I tried a massage with two girls.

Wanted to go to Chornobyl, but next time.

[Michae]

I was in Ukraine two one time. In Kyiv and in Odesa.

In Odesa disco very pleased on the beach of &1048; &1090; &1072; &1082; &1072; and &1048; &1073; &1080; &1094; &1072; . A very beautiful opera theater is in this city.

Quite recently was in Kyiv. Friends advised to go down in disco www.dlux.com.ua, skybar. Ua, also to try an erotic massage http://hotmassage.kiev.ua/. Massage it something interesting. I tried a massage with two girls.

Wanted to go to Chornobyl, but next time.

[Michae]

I was in Ukraine two one time (in Kyiv and in Odesa).

In Odesa disco very pleased on the beach of Itaka and Ibiza. Very beautiful opera theater is in this city.

Quite recently was in Kyiv. Friends advised to go down in SkyBar http://skybar.ua/?lang=en, D*Lux http://www.dlux.com.ua/en/ Also to try an erotic massage http://hotmassage.kiev.ua/. In &1076; &1077; &1083; &1102; &1082; &1089; &1077; pleased, massage it something interesting. I tried a massage with two girls.

Wanted to go to Chornobyl, but next time.

[CarloJj1]

I am a frequent reader of ISG and a few of the other monger forums. I frequently travel to C. R. And have been to a a couple of FKK in clubs in germany. This was my second trip to ukraine. The first time I found a guides email address on one of the forums. I corresponded with him before I went to ukraine. On my first trip there I arrived at boryspil airport. When I got off I thought to myself what have I done. I've depended on having a guide meet me here. There he was. He asked are you grant? From there on out it was nothing but a great adventure. I stayed in contact with him over time. It had been 4 years since I travelled to Kiev. I arrived the second time. Just like before he was waiting for me. He had picked out a nice apartment for me. It was posh. I told him I had been checking out alot of the escort sites and showed him the girls that I wanted to meet. When he saw them he told me that some of them were not their real pics. He called all of them and found one that said that was her real pic. She was fantastic! The prices have gone up alot since I was there the last time but she was worth it. My guide, alex took me on a whirlwind tour like he did before. I saw the miniature museum, the catacombs, out to a disco. It has been along time since I went clubbing. We drank absinthe and partied all night. A beautiful black haired girl with big tits approached me and said ill fuck you for 200. I said make it 100 and your on. She wouldn't budge. I so much wanted this one but I'm a haggler and we couldn't come to a price. I do regret that. I can't recommend my guide enough. He was always on time and knew everywhere to go. He spoke great english, had a nice toyota suv. I couldn't ask for better. For the most beautiful slavic girls I can't recommend ukraine enough. For the best guide I can't recommend alex enough. Go to ukraine! If you weant more info message me!

You have not mentioned prices now all nighters? Please need your guide telefone.

[Guntherus]

Are there any meat markets like the old casino?

Are there any more casinos left in Kiev, I have not been back for about 2 years.

Thanks

My girlfriend in Kiev tells me casinos are now illegal in Ukraine and have been closed down. She used to go and play poker, and there still is a place where this is possible. But now the bets are so high that it is impossible for her to join. I guess if you are an oligarch and are interested, I would be glad to help.

[Clement Mic]

I want to get married with an Ukraine girl so I don't have the 90/180 limit.

What you guys think?

[JohnTodd]

Are there any meat markets like the old casino?

Are there any more casinos left in Kiev, I have not been back for about 2 years.

Thanks

[John Steed]

Hi Guys:

I am new to this board; but not new to mongoring. I have been a memeber of BGFE few several years. This is my first trip to Eastern Europe. I chose Kiev because I want to see some legendary tourist sights like the Lavra, Sofiyivfka Park, and Chernobyl; but I also want to sample the legendary Ukrainian women. I have a few questions about these potential opportuntites for some action. Any imput from you guys will be appreciated.

1) Are the Kiev massage parlors worth a visit? What services are offered? How is this place? http://eroticmassagekiev.com/index-en.php

2) This escort girl caught my attention. She seems to offer good price options and service options. Her photos are also smokin. Are her pics real or fake? She has answered my emails and she does want to meet up. Will I be happy or disspointed?

http://milana-vip.escort-site.com/photos.phtml

3) I have communicated with this "Private Guide Service." I may want to hire some guide girls to take me on a "Nightlife Tour" or a "Dine In Romance" tour for a few evenings. These tours sound like a great opportunity for a truly Ukrainian experience. Will I be dealing with a reputable compnay? Is a compnay like this worth it? Do you think I mught get lucky enough to experience some pussy action as well?

http://www.kievprivateguides.com/about-us.html

I have also communicated with "Best Private Guides" in the Kiev General Info. Section. Has anyone dealt with them?

Any imput from you guys will be appreciated.

[Member #4491]

Seriously, Ukainian girls are a lot of things but idiots isn't one of them. They already know what the game is all about, especially when it comes to foreign men.

She's not all that into you, put her on the back burner like she has so obviously done to you and find someone who sends you the right signals.

Part of the skill set in this game is knowing when to cut your loses.

You are off course right. As soon as we try to qualify we are fucked. Same for girls all over the world. But there is more ways to a pair of knickers than one. She will end up in Barba's bed if I want it. At the end of the day it is just a transaction of money, time, feelings, hope, etc and this is not the hardest negotiation I will stumble over in life, I am sure. Just a simple province side girl that will be slim and pretty for some years, and wants to maximize the gain from this lottery luck. My cry out for help was mostly to see how various people here would react and tackle such a situation. Always fun to have a peak into peoples various monger strategies. Some move on. Some apply mirroring. Some go all in. Anyone that fucks more than 50-100 girls (and I am not meaning hard core p4p or brothel girls) a year will have developed some sort of strategy that obviously works in that persons context. You are within character, CD. I would expect the romantics like Rune the Nordic gentleman (and perhaps feminist brainwash) to advice a more poetic approach to "winning her heart and soft skin". And the Central European segment will perhaps go all in with fur coats and champagne, but with a disclaimer that I could just as well give fuck all about this one and move on because they are all just the same and the real center of attention is ones own self.

Me and this girl are chatting every other day and are having fun, so I will keep her on the radar. I suggested we should "just be friends and keep in contact to practice English and Russian". This woke her up a little. She is a quite simple girl who dreams about money and possibly a passport out of her shithole. I like these gf games where we tilt into the harsh reality of cash for **** every now and then. We got to be sober also when pretending. As long as there are other girls. Frustration comes from only having one and that one playing the qualifier game, but that stage is passed also in Ukraine. I have much more females than I can juggle when I manage to sneak away to UA. I like to have about 10 girlfriends. 10 in the pipe and 100 that are warm and ready. This is for all over the world and not only UA, and this is how I learned that I like it. 100% McDonalds-sex is not for me. 50% fast food and 50% GFE is better for Barba. The girlfriends are girls I like to have a GFE with. Girls where I let things develop. Over the years many of them where virgins. 100% virgins that in some cases still cry when they think of the wonderful and comfortable time with Barba. Yes, I am a selfish prick but still sweet to the girlfriends. Not all girls are greedy, not even in Ukraine. Some tears are real. Inna is not virgin, but she is still romantic and young in her mind. If I do not get bored with here, or if I do not get totally trapped in the two new talents I accidentally met in UA (one of them is a fantastic amazon that made my "primitives" instantly signal me to make her pregnant) , there will be a follow up on the Inna case. Right now she is responsive, accommodating and inviting in that charming and flaky teenage way.

B.

[YellowPaul]

Just a update on Caribbean Club as it has re-opened. If you like their page on Facebook you can get a idea of the crowd. For instance they just posted pictures from last Friday I believe.