Kyiv

[DramaFree11]

I have actually sent girls home at the door when they did not match the photo. For safety reasons, I meet them outside the apartment building, not at my door. I have sent them home when, once inside, they refuse to do the agreed-upon work. A couple of times, I have sent them home with only partial payment when we started to make out, but they immediately started to complain. I figured they would complain even more when I lasted more than 3 minutes. If I wanted to pay for nagging, I would get married. A few times I have paid half before and half after, but I have not had good experiences with that. That is why repeat providers and their friends are the best. Once trust is built, and you get a good reference who tells them that you are a good lay and always pay, they can relax and enjoy their work. It is the only job in which, all else being equal, that the more she enjoys it, the netter she is at her job.

I have done it too, but it never fun and I usual feel terrible, unless there photos are not even close to the real person. I did it last week in MTY, but she was a good 30-40 pounds heavier then picture. I said Hello, and good bye. That one was easy. Very important to meet in a public place, not at your apartment. Read the Colombia reports and you will understand why.

[Misterxxx]

Everyone must keep in mind that the house takes 50%.

If you find an independent, the prices should be about half. A little more work, but worth it. I would rather have something a little fresher, not a girl who has been with half a dozen customer that day.

You overestimate the income of prostitutes in Kiev. Many of the girls from "brothels" only have 1-2 customers a day. Sometimes no customers at all.

[VinDici]

I have actually sent girls home at the door when they did not match the photo. For safety reasons, I meet them outside the apartment building, not at my door. I have sent them home when, once inside, they refuse to do the agreed-upon work. A couple of times, I have sent them home with only partial payment when we started to make out, but they immediately started to complain. I figured they would complain even more when I lasted more than 3 minutes..

That is a good way of doing things. I guess if you were at a hotel it would work the same way, although I think someone earlier wrote that agencies / girls require pictures of the Outcall door number before confirming the booking.

I've never had an outcall before as I have always punted from "home" locations, and as such cannot host discreetly.

Now I'm on a business trip, and have limited knowledge of the geography and language, I'm going to stick to Outcalls.

When you send them back, do you give them taxi money and if so how much is reasonable, 100 UAH? Does your number get blacklisted, when you send them back, do you need to change SIMs often?

[Stevie69]

I have actually sent girls home at the door when they did not match the photo. For safety reasons, I meet them outside the apartment building, not at my door. I have sent them home when, once inside, they refuse to do the agreed-upon work. A couple of times, I have sent them home with only partial payment when we started to make out, but they immediately started to complain. I figured they would complain even more when I lasted more than 3 minutes. If I wanted to pay for nagging, I would get married. A few times I have paid half before and half after, but I have not had good experiences with that. That is why repeat providers and their friends are the best. Once trust is built, and you get a good reference who tells them that you are a good lay and always pay, they can relax and enjoy their work. It is the only job in which, all else being equal, that the more she enjoys it, the netter she is at her job.

Regular just left. Better sex than usual because she believes I'm seeing another woman. Fact is, I'm not seeing anyone else (due to my usual laziness), but no reason to tell her the truth.

Completely agree. I call this "American style payment" because used by American men to cope with grab-and-run scammers. Two suggested refinements: 1) if multiple bills, spread out on table so girl can count by eye when she arrives, so no need to touch money until end of session; 2) if first meeting, especially with inexperienced semi-pro, warn in advance about partial / zero payment for partial / zero performance.

I have never actually used the partial / zero payment option, however I believe warning about that option helped me avoid unpleasant situations where inexperienced girls (mainly from seeking arrangement many years ago) were unsure and so might have had last minute change of mind.

Agencies may not allow money on table until end of session or partial / zero payment, however should be possible to impose these rules on independents and semi-pros.

[Stevie69]

Everyone must keep in mind that the house takes 50%.

If you find an independent, the prices should be about half. A little more work, but worth it. I would rather have something a little fresher, not a girl who has been with half a dozen customer that day.

RTFF.

And buy a membership so that you can receive private messages.

I visited many different apartments. Prices range from 1200 to 5700 per hour. I never paid the 5700 but did pay 4500 a couple times. Most often I paid 2200 and also paid 1200 several times.

And yeah I hit the Baseina Street for 1800 and other various places for 1700, 2800 and 3200. I can't say there was much correlation between the prices and the quality of the girls. But I like variety so I visited as many different places as I could find rather than just frequenting the same cheaper apartments.

[Stevie69]

Hello,

It seems like you are doing it right, well, except for the $100+ USD at the end. Were the currency exchange places closed that day? And the metro? This coronavirus is ruining everything!

I bet that if you sell yourself as a repeat customer, for the time you are there, and as a regular traveler to Kiev several times per year, you can guarantee yourself excellent service every time. Ask them whether they have any friends and double your pleasure.

Keep up the good work!

Day 1.

Went to one of the apartments. Had 22 years old, she climaxed once. Beautiful face, not slim but overall attractive. Allowed little kisses on lips, nothing more. She worked and did everything to please the client, so great attitude.

Damage 1500 uah for 1 hour. Will definitely go again.

Day 2.

Met a girl from SA in early 20's. Took her for dinner and brought her back to hotel. She was little resistant because she was not prostitute, just a young poor girl who wants to enjoy life like rest of privileged girls.

Damage: just dinner, no charge for sex..

[VinDici]

The Google Translate app is your friend whether talking with girls face to face or talking with agencies via whatsapp. I speak no Russian and it was not an obstacle to enjoy the ladies in Kiev. I did meet a few english speaking providers but soon realized that is the sign of a hardened pro and best to avoid imo.

Sounds promising. I've scoped some ladies on UKRGO as well as the links in this thread. My preference is for older MILF-why types with curvier bodies. My guess will be that none of them speak an iota of english, so I'm hoping they don't dismiss my messages out of hand. I'm not expecting problems with agencies, which will be my backup plan and I'll be sticking mainly to Outcalls.

I'm arriving on Thursday and will be there for 1 week, if anyone wants to reach out, feel free.

Looking forward to this trip, pity that the timing is terrible.

[Lucky Nuts]

Hi chaps,

I have an upcoming business trip to Kiev, will be visiting later this week, and I'll be staying for around 6 nights. Are there any fellow mongers who would like to meet up, if so send me a PM. I'm going to need help making some bookings, so if there are any Ukrainian / Russian speakers that can help me make a few calls, that would be welcome, and I'll happily compensate for your time.

In terms of lockdown are any bars / clubs open at all right now? Is it even possible to try and chat up local talent (without Russian language skills) at the moment?

The Google Translate app is your friend whether talking with girls face to face or talking with agencies via whatsapp. I speak no Russian and it was not an obstacle to enjoy the ladies in Kiev. I did meet a few english speaking providers but soon realized that is the sign of a hardened pro and best to avoid imo.

[VinDici]

Hi chaps,

I have an upcoming business trip to Kiev, will be visiting later this week, and I'll be staying for around 6 nights. Are there any fellow mongers who would like to meet up, if so send me a PM. I'm going to need help making some bookings, so if there are any Ukrainian / Russian speakers that can help me make a few calls, that would be welcome, and I'll happily compensate for your time.

In terms of lockdown are any bars / clubs open at all right now? Is it even possible to try and chat up local talent (without Russian language skills) at the moment?

[Lucky Nuts]

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[Riina]

Met a girl from SA in early 20's. Took her for dinner and brought her back to hotel. She was little resistant because she was not prostitute, just a young poor girl who wants to enjoy life like rest of privileged girls.

Damage: just dinner, no charge for sex.

I am so jealous. It is rare for a college girl to meet at a restaurant and hotel with an old guy from SA for dinner and then give free sex. She must have been fresh from the country side with no friends to risk publicly tagging herself as a prostitute for a meal.

The reports clearly show the pussies are hungry in Kiev. Go get some.

[Jojab007]

I am curious how old you are? I have had 2 "freebies" so far since I have been in Kyiv, but this surprises me from a SA girl.

I am very old but perhaps don't look my age. I can comfortably go out on date with 25+ girl.

I followed your advise and spent lot of time on mamba and SA. What I gathered from SA, not all are prostitutes. Some are there just for fun, fancy dinners or travel. This girl has lots of travel photos on her social media account, no way she could afford all that with no job. I will meet her again because she is just fun to hangout, walk around in Kyiv.

Ordered? Was she an agency girl?

Wrong verbage. No she works for herself. I can share her mamba profile in private.

Did you offer $100 for an hour or did she ask for that?

She had quoted 100 for classic and 150 for anal. I offered 100 for all and after a while she accepted.

Thank you for the reports.

[YummyPL]

Met a girl from SA in early 20's. Took her for dinner and brought her back to hotel. She was little resistant because she was not prostitute, just a young poor girl who wants to enjoy life like rest of privileged girls.

Damage: just dinner, no charge for sex.

I am curious how old you are? I have had 2 "freebies" so far since I have been in Kyiv, but this surprises me from a SA girl.

Ordered a girl to hotel from mamba. She was very nice girl to talk, but sex was not that great. Not that she didn't try. She is just a normal girl with child and has more important things to worry about than sex.

Damage 2000 uah.

Ordered? Was she an agency girl?

Called a girl to hotel from mamba. 18 year, beautiful face and great tits. She enjoyed herself and made sure I am at the center of the experience. Agreed to anal for $100 with full GFE, condomless oral. Didn't mind 2 shots in 1 hour and shower together. Very nice girl and fun. I would not mind travel with her to somewhere in Caribbean and bang shit out of her for 7 days straight.

Damage: $100 plus taxi.

Did you offer $100 for an hour or did she ask for that?

Thank you for the reports.

[Jojab007]

Day 1.

Went to one of the apartments. Had 22 years old, she climaxed once. Beautiful face, not slim but overall attractive. Allowed little kisses on lips, nothing more. She worked and did everything to please the client, so great attitude.

Damage 1500 uah for 1 hour. Will definitely go again.

Day 2.

Met a girl from SA in early 20's. Took her for dinner and brought her back to hotel. She was little resistant because she was not prostitute, just a young poor girl who wants to enjoy life like rest of privileged girls.

Damage: just dinner, no charge for sex.

Day 3.

Ordered a girl to hotel from mamba. She was very nice girl to talk, but sex was not that great. Not that she didn't try. She is just a normal girl with child and has more important things to worry about than sex.

Damage 2000 uah.

Day 4.

Called a girl to hotel from mamba. 18 year, beautiful face and great tits. She enjoyed herself and made sure I am at the center of the experience. Agreed to anal for $100 with full GFE, condomless oral. Didn't mind 2 shots in 1 hour and shower together. Very nice girl and fun. I would not mind travel with her to somewhere in Caribbean and bang shit out of her for 7 days straight.

Damage: $100 plus taxi.