Odessa

[Explorer69]

Explorer69,

Possibly I am mistaken, but judging by the years mentioned by you then the pleasant person by name of Ella or Ellionora was very active. Its real name Lena. It was Anton's girlfriend. I was surprised about its kgs a little. Saw in its spring, something was superfluous in weight. But + 6 - 7 kg it already 65 kg +, much. Forgive, if was mistaken)

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=620932

I will be discreet and not comment in order not to say anything that may identify the girl, but I still think we are talking about different girls? Sorry!

[Explorer69]

And you've been in the FSU over SIXTY TIMES????

I'm no cunning linguist, but at least they can understand most of what I try to say in their language, with less than 20 visits.

What I'm trying to say, is that I get much farther and have a much better time with dyevs that don't speak any English, even though I always need to have some contact with one or two that speak a little bit.

But if I spoke 10 words of Russian, I don't think I would get anywhere with many of them.

You are right, that is my status with Russian. But I have to explain: I go to FSU for business, I usually arrive, have day meetings with people who speak English, fuck in the evening and the night, and then work the next day, again speaking English.

My visits are usually very short, 2-3-4 days in this way.

I am aware that I would do much better if I know Russian, at least the selection would be MUCH larger. But there is still a reasonable selction for me to meet, so. And my daily life is too busy, so I never got the big motivation to include learning Russian.

The only times I were on longer trips (1 week) is in Odessa because there I have an apartment and I go for holiday.

[Bez Bezarra]

My Russian is non-existent (5-10 words).

And you've been in the FSU over SIXTY TIMES????

I'm no cunning linguist, but at least they can understand most of what I try to say in their language, with less than 20 visits.

What I'm trying to say, is that I get much farther and have a much better time with dyevs that don't speak any English, even though I always need to have some contact with one or two that speak a little bit.

But if I spoke 10 words of Russian, I don't think I would get anywhere with many of them.

[SirMarjAlot]

Too bad no fotos, or age. So we'll guess 23 years?

Guess that sounds like a typical price to pay in 2009 in Odessa for a tag team of freelance pros, but it still seems kinda expensive.

As long as your happy, that's what counts!

Even in the provinces, I budget about $300 a day for maximum fun on the weekends, though I don't consistently get the chance to spend it, if I adhere to minimum requirements on the level of quality. Certainly there have been exceptions when I've well overspent that, when faced with multiple opportunities at the higher levels. Life is a merry-go-round!

Yep it was a one off. I was not going to let them go, I intended to have a night to remember. And it was certianly that. Lucky I interecepted them in the pub before they went to Itaka else they would have been lost in there.

Problem is people really drill the point when they consider someone has overpaid. Its important that people on these forums are honest.

Explorer69, I stood outside that strip-tease club but decided to give it a miss unfortnately your report came a few days after. Enjoy reading your reportsm warts and all is the way it is and always will be. Would love you to go into some detail of your past and how you were scammed etc. Would be an education for us all, I'm sure.

I also booked through OdessaApts and I would definately use them again. They do look after you.

I'll attach a pic of the girls leaving my apartment. I shall return one day.

She txt me a few days later. Did I want to meet up for "relax, kiss, sex".

Yes I did very much but back home now.

[Bez Bezarra]

We agreed a price of 1500UAH each.

I decided to go with this as the blonde was exceptional.

Great girls, great company, great night, i dont care what else happens now in Odessa, i have had my perfect blonde, not made it out of the irish pub yet.

Too bad no fotos, or age. So we'll guess 23 years?

Guess that sounds like a typical price to pay in 2009 in Odessa for a tag team of freelance pros, but it still seems kinda expensive.

As long as your happy, that's what counts!

Even in the provinces, I budget about $300 a day for maximum fun on the weekends, though I don't consistently get the chance to spend it, if I adhere to minimum requirements on the level of quality. Certainly there have been exceptions when I've well overspent that, when faced with multiple opportunities at the higher levels. Life is a merry-go-round!

[Denails]

Explorer69,

Possibly I am mistaken, but judging by the years mentioned by you then the pleasant person by name of Ella or Ellionora was very active. Its real name Lena. It was Anton's girlfriend. I was surprised about its kgs a little. Saw in its spring, something was superfluous in weight. But + 6 - 7 kg it already 65 kg +, much. Forgive, if was mistaken)

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=620932

[Explorer69]

Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

I am not certain whom you mean? The girl I met does not have the name Elli.

[Explorer69]

I have had a few PMs regarding apartment in Odessa, so write it here. I have an apartment there myself and when I am not there, I have an agency manage it for rental. I let them do this because I used them before as a guest, and I discovered that this agency (American-owned and with extremely friendly female manager and co-manager in Odessa) always was 100% reliable, friendly, honest and helpful in every way.

It is http://www.odessaapts.com, and I can recommend them unconditionally.

Except that they manage my apartment, I have no connection with them in any way, I have no finanacial benefits except that they manage my apartment. I don't think they read this forum (hope not!) so they will not read what I write here. And I let them manage my apartment because of the excellent experiences I had with them earlier as a guest.

They have many, many apartments, many of which are more or less on Deribasovskaya, for all tastes, from cheap to real luxury.

It is the same owner as in Kiev: http://www.kievapts.com/, also extremely good and reliable service.

[Denails]

Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

[Denails]

Explorer69,

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

[Denails]

Explorer69

Forgive, you met Elli? This harmonious blonde became heavier on 6 - 7 kg? I know that she lives with parents. And the Russian friend wishes it to see not every evening. It simply sponsors.

[Explorer69]

Let me continue my experiences from Odessa. First I can give a little background. I am not the usual sex tourist. I have been to Kiev maybe 30 times in connection with my work. Usually very short trips, 2-5 days. Therefore I have gone more for pros and semipros than freebies, because the time is short and I am busy during the days, sometimes with business dinners. And 50+ is of course a serious handicap regarding freebies

I have the same thing in St Petersburg where I also have been around 30 times.

In Odessa I have an apartment and Odessa is vacation and fun only!

However, this gives me a good credibility with the girls because I have “good reasons” to be in Ukraine. I don’t like short term sex (1-2 hours) like going to a salon. I like either to go to a place where I can talk with the girls first (RP, strip clubs etc.) or find a girl to sponsor for some time, for a weekend or sometimes much longer. And if I find a girl that I like I prefer to meet her again instead of chasing another one the next evening. I have found this to be very rewarding. Over the years I have had several longer relations with girls both in Ukraine and Russia, and often I have not reported from my visits because I spend it together with only one girl whom I know from before and she is some kind of girlfriend.

The strange thing is that although I am 50+ some of these girls have developed real love relations with me. I am quite well off and possibly more generous than some others, but I have also had girls to whom I gave very little and they still are very eager… I also had my part of being scammed and many have tried, a few have succeeded, so I am not blind to this. And I am aware that my wallet may be/is a big attraction… But I have also been cheated seriously…

I have a rather extensive experience in longterm sponsoring girls and the majority of these have developed into true relations where I had to make decision: be more serious or stop in order not to hurt the girl too much, so I stopped. And I am totally convinced that a 50+ man from Western Europe who marries a 20 year old student girl from Ukraine or Russia is a complete idiot! Or any 20 year old girl!

I have normally had very good experiences in Odessa, although I have been cheated here. However, I don’t understand those that say that Odessa girls are worse than others. I have had wonderful experiences here….

Back to my visit now: For today – or rather yesterday, it is now 2:30 am – I had 2 appointments, one for 3-4 pm, and then one girl in the evening whom I thought was looking for sponsor .

I wrote in my last report yesterday about my “old” girlfriend whom had a Russian boyfriend and who visited me during the day. At 2:30 pm she called me and asked what I was doing, she wanted to have lunch with me! It turned out that her Russian was out of the city… I had to say that I was busy, but maybe we could meet late in the evening. She said yes, if it was not too late. It turned out it became too late. But would have meant plenty of good sex!

So I waited for my first appointment. She never appeared and did not answer the phone! So another loss. I then had phone contact with no. 2, she was very keen, but asked if it was OK to come together with a girlfriend? A very bad sign usually. But she added that her girlfriend could be asked to leave after some time…!!! Great!!

At 8 pm they arrived, and first thing they asked a little nervously if I was alone or if some other guy lived with me. No, No, I asked them to check the apartment. After an hour with drinks and talk we went to a restaurant for dinner. I felt before that this girl was looking for money and a sponsor. I was totally wrong. They actually lived outside Odessa, about 30 km. I often have with me a few bottles of perfume – it is a key to make girls happy. This time I had 2 bottles and I had not given them before, so I just gave them to these two girls. They went almost ballistic, they were so grateful, they could not believe their luck! They were very innocent village girls, but with some style still. Serious students, and my girl had studied 3 years in Kiev, now she studied in Odessa. She was also very beautiful.

To make a long story short: these girls were so fun, so sweet, so good, we had a good time in restaurant, this old pig just felt good to be with them, have a good time and talk. They then came back to the apartment for a nightcap and I sent them home in a taxi (300 grivna) at 1 am, the last bus had left at 10 pm. No pussy, but I was happy with a great evening in the company of 2 very good and sweet girls who really didn’t ask for anything. In the restaurant they were very worried it would be too expensive. Of course I will see them again, my girl and I make appointment to meet in Kiev for my next trip there. So there is nothing like a free dinner for the girl, hehe…

What were these girls after?

I really don’t know. They were looking for relation? With me, 50+? Well, the “bodyguard” or accompanying girl was very keen to practice English. Sponsor? Maybe? I will see next time.

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[Explorer69]

I am now back in Odessa after my great time there a few weeks back. So far, this time has not been as successful as my last visit, although I have no reason to complain.All together I am here for 1 week.

I had done a lot of research on internet and I had several candidates to choose from. On arrival I started to call: no. 1 was down with flu, no.2 could not come because she had to help her mother with something, no. 3. did not answer, no. 4 had to go out of town to babuschka who was ill!! No. 5 answered and she was keen to meet, thank God! So pussy would probably be available for the evening. This girl was a 19 year old student, she had announced to me that she needed money and sponsor! Promising! I had seen several photos of her face and top of breasts, telling me that she had a sweet, round and almost childish face and big breasts, but no whole body photos. Mistake no.1!

We met outside Afina shopping centre and the moment I saw her I decided to turn around, but she had already seen me and waved. She was maybe 165 cm, but must have been 100 kg, maybe more. Her ass was enormous! My God! What to do?? But now it was after 9 pm, other opportunities were lost and a strike of perversity came into my mind: how would it be to fuck this elephant? So bought some food necessities, wine etc. and went for my apartment.

Mistake no. 2. I had never checked her English properly before, I knew it was bad, but not like this! My Russian is non-existent (5-10 words). She spoke maybe 20-30 words of English! But we went to the laptop, she used a virtual Russian keyboard and we chatted with translator for maybe 2 hours, it turned out that she was a very nice girl with a sweet personality. And she had one of these teardripping stories about father died a few weeks ago, she and mother had nothing to live for, she had to stop university. These stories have become much more frequent the last year. She wanted a longterm relationship and sponsorship and she did not want to start in bed! I said I was not ready for any longer relationship and if we ever should meet again, we needed a test ride!!! She agreed on that, she understood my view! So into the shower, first her, then me.

I never have been close to having sex with anything like this! Her ass was enormous, so were her breasts. My two hands were unable to cup one breast! She had told me that she had never had an orgasm in her life. Well, maybe an old pig can help on that, and oral is usually the best way, so I went to work. The problem was that although I spread her thighs as much as possible, it was difficult to get to her clit because of the enormous fatty labia! When I got so deep that I had good contact with the clit, I could not breathe!

I worked for maybe 45 minutes, she was very excited, but no orgasm! I was totally exhausted and sweating like a pig, and had to rest. Now she wanted to fuck, she climbed on top of me with the 100 kgs and worked really hard. After some time I wanted to change into doggy, but the ass was so enormous I would need to have a 30 cm dick to get properly into the pussy, I was only fucking in fat. So finally missionary, where we had a reasonably good fuck, reasonable for the circumstances….

After some rest, she got alive again and now gave me a blowjob (without till completion and swallowed). Her blowjob was actually very good!. But then she had to go home to mother.

What to give for money in such a situation? In principle nothing, but due to her sweet personality and terrible life situation I gave her USD 200… nothing for me, a fortune for her…...

To end this, she bombarded me with SMS the next 2 days and wanted to meet, in the end I made it clear that no more meeting, I said we could not have relation when her English was so bad. I felt sorry for her.

Next day I had an appointment with a girl from Nikolaev, 20 years, that looked really hot on her photos. That was girl no. 2 I called the day before. She was coming into Odessa because she studied there and now should start her university on September 1st. First she said she would be in Odessa at 3 pm. At 4 pm I called and then she said she would be there at 6 pm. At 6.15 pm she said she started from Nikolaev. At 9. 15 she called she was outside. I walked down to meet her. There she was sitting in a taxi from Nikolaev: 500 grivna! What to do, if not paying the pussy was gone because the guy was too cheap! Scam! Then she got out of the taxi, but surprise: she had a girlfriend with her, very bad sign. Everybody into my apartment. Another surprise! Her hot photos was an example of good photoshopping and she was at least 10-15 kg more than shown on the photos, and her had not the quality I had seen. Furthermore, she did not speak English either, it turned out that when I thought I spoke with her, I had spoken with one of her girlfriends who knew English! The girlfriend who now came along as bodyguard didn’t speak English either. I did not want more fat girls with whom I could not speak, so after 1 hour and a glass of wine/juice I politely – I stress: politely – said that I felt we were not made for each other. They took the hint and left. The next day I got several SMS telling me that I was a pig and a liar. Pig? Yes! Liar? No!

Now the time was close to 11 pm, what to do? I could make some calls, for instance to the notorious Dina, but I usually like to see in advance what I get. So I decided to go to Captain Morgan, there are sometimes semipros. Tonight it was dead. Coming out from CM I suddenly got the idea to go to a new strip club I had seen announced, the address is Ekaterinskaya 25 which is across the street from CM. First I didn’t find it, because the entrance is around the corner. Entrance 100 grivna.

To make a long story short: this one of the best strip clubs I have been to. Nice girls, some very beautiful, good shows, not only taking off their clothes, but SHOWS. Girls offering private dances, but not too pushy, they accepted a polite NO. And best of all: first time I have been in a strip club and not been ripped off!! I was there for 3 hours, had 3 gin tonic and 2 cocktails for girls: 330 grivna (= 40 USD). Unbelievable! But there were many possibilities to spend much money. Private dances were 200 grivnas. You could take out a girl for the night for 4800 grivnas, girls were very open for that, but without sex (!). I guess some girls would do sex, I only asked two. Best thing: I spoke with maybe the hottest girl there, she was the one who got 2 cocktails, she was free the next evening and we decided to meet for dinner.

Next evening at 7 we met, we had dinner and we ‘clicked”. Very beautiful, clever girl, interesting, spoke excellent English. After dinner to my apartment for “a drink and talk”, and we had a great night with high quality sex for hours.

The next night she had to work, but she came to me for sex at 4 pm, and then went directly to the club at 9 pm. Everything was great and I told her I would drop by the club around 11 after I had a dinner. I came to club, she came to me and had a cocktail. After some time she told me she had to circulate, it was the rule of the club unless I bought her free time (=1200 grivnas for 1 hour). I told her to circulate and come back later.

I enjoyed the good shows and I noticed a little spinner with a marvellous body. She noticed I noticed her and she came to my table. We had some talk and then she more or less volunteered her number, she was free the following night and I knew the girl I had would be working the next night! I was drooling! Later I talked a little with my first girl and went home.

The next morning I woke up at 10 and sent immediately an SMS. This I must explain: I met a girl here in summer 2006, she was then 21, we met several times during the next few months, I even had her fly to me in St Petersburg early in autumn 2006. Then she found a local guy. In autumn 2007 I met her again in Odessa and we met several times into winter 2008. Since that we meet now and then on Skype, maybe every second month. By coincidence we met a week before I now went to Odessa again. During the last year she had some rich Russian as her boyfriend, but when talking it was clear that she was not too happy. I said on Skype that I would not disturb her life so we should not meet, she had to be with him every evening? Yes, she said, but not at daytime!!! I got her new phone number and she asked me to send SMS when I arrived. The day I arrived I sent SMS, I got only the answer “welcome to Odessa”. But the day before this she sent SMS and asked what I was doing the next day.

Now I sent SMS and said I was free, “I am waiting to see you”. Answer: “I come at 12”! She came, after some talk for an hour to keep up with what had happened since last we met it was sex on-off for several hours, but around 5:30 she said she had to leave and that was Ok with me, that was the time when I had promised to call stripper no. 2.

This girl always gave very good sex including excelllent blowjobs. She did not easily have orgasms, but they were very powerful. She only had orgasms from oral sex, she never had orgasms just from fucking. She could have one or two very strong orgasms by prolonged oral sex. What became quite clear without her saying it explicitly was that her Russian lover/boyfriend was more into fucking so orgasms were rather few. When I went into the last session with oral, she said no, no, I have never more than two! In the end she got the third very powerful orgasm. I wonder if her Russian got sex that evening – what kind of sex?

What also was interesting were some changes in her. Before she had been a standard Odessa girl, now she came very elegantly and expensively dressed with lot of jewelry. So her Russian had money. The bad thing was that she who is slim had gained a lot of weight, and it was almost exclusively a round her waist. Maybe not more than 6-7 kgs, but that is a lot for a small, slim girl when most of it is around her waist. If she is not careful, the Russian will find another one.

Another interesting thing is how she now was conditioned to sex. As soon as the dick was close to her she just turned her back towards me for doggy, or when the dick was in front, she opened her legs. This was like a reflex and it was new, I think she has been trained hard by her Russian?

She left and I checked my phone. During all the fucking I had heard that SMSs were coming in. Now there was a series of SMS from 2 strippers telling me that I was a liar and a pig and I could fuck myself! Mistake no. 3: I had forgotten that girls talk between them! Mistake no. 4: If you try to ride 2 horses, you may fall off. So then, yesterday was lonely evening. And I guess I cannot go back to the strip club, the moment I am there the girls will regard me like the plague.

Today has been some relaxation, and some work on the computer, some phones, no girl, but for tomorrow I have one girl (20 year old) lined up for the afternoon, that will be no sex, only investment for the future, in the evening a hot 21 year old looking for sponsor. Nobody knows the night until the sun rises.

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[SirMarjAlot]

Yesterday took a taxi to the murphys pub at the port area. Cost me 50UAH.

Did not realise it was so near to the city centre, i thought it was of similar distance to Arkadia. Oh well the action is actually located around an area called Tamozennaya Square.

I got to the Murphys Irish pub around 6pm, there was a Ukrainian football match on against Barcelona and all the tables had been reserved.

Across the road is the supermarket and next door a real comfy little bar. Made myself comfy here. Around 7:30pm, the girls start turning up and they use the bar too as well as standing outside the supermarket.

Just around the corner and up a steep pedestrianised street is another two bars, again which the girls use.

I had a good look round but most of the girls there were not doing it for me.
Decided to take one more walk round to the supermarket before taking a taxi to Arkadia and noticed this really cute young blonde who looked like she was dressed up to goto Ibiza with her girly friends.

Got chatting, she speak hardly any English but there is always someone close by who does. She come to my apt 1 hour, 800UaH. I had to ask her age, her face looked young but her body was fully developed, a real Ukrainian cutie. What she was doing standing around here, i will never know.

I had to pay upfront there and another girl took the money and we take a taxi to my apt. Had to hand over another 50UAH to the driver.

In my apt, we relax and she wants me to give her a massage, cheek i thought it was the other way round.... she strips off to her panties and bra and really has a body to die for, although spoilt by some tatoos, a couple of self mutilation wounds on her arms and a slash across the side of her stomach. She signals that it was a knife.

In the bedroom she gives me good head for about 10mins covered of course. I then get on top and dont last too long. After i take a shower come back and she is fast asleep on my bed. I lay beside her and she cuddles up and she is now fast asleep in a deep sleep. I really dont want to wake her, but its over the hour now, and i start to think they will want to charge me more.

So i awaken her, she immediately rings a taxi, i hear him shouting down the phone. She takes a shower and then helps herself to my last bread, ham, cheese and tomato in the fridge. damn she needs it more than me.

She then leaves not before demanding a taxi fare. I dont give this to her, as the first 50UAH for me included the return fare.

Somewhere life has dealt this girl a bum deal and she is not going to recover from it.

I never made it too ITaka or the nightclubs down Arkadia. Today i return home, and to be honest looking forward to it. But Odessa is a place to fall in love with. Its challelenging but can be very rewarding. One day i shall definately return. Cannot say that about alot of places iv visited.

Got a fantastic oil painting from the stalls all around the big church. A painting of a stereotypical blonde Ukrainian girl, with the wind blowing up her small red dress with little white cotton panties on. that will always remind me of Odessa girls.

[Hakan Demir]

I used the agency and met Katia in Turkey.

Strongly recommended.

You pay when the girl arrives.apts:

http://www.odessaexecutivesuites.com/

Great location and friendly.stayed a week and no problem.

Vodkaescort.com

Has anyone used it?

Are the photos real?

Do they ask for money in advance, or do you pay to the girl when you meet her?

Can you please recommend a nice short term rental apartment downtown Odessa?

Thanks