Odessa

[Jojosun]

BTW still don't know how to arrange an accom. In Koblevo. To book in advance is possible or not? Any recommandable hotel? Where to stay there?

(I always have lots of questions.).

For hotels in Koblevo there is this well known site http://www.agoda.com/city/koblevo-ua.html.

On their site you can book now but pay later.

Or here there is an apartment, hotels, guest houses. http://www.booking.com/searchresults...8477221%3Apl%3.

[Iceberg27]

Deribasoskaya street is heart of odessa (Istıklal or Bagdat street in Turkey for example) and if you spend your day in beach and night in clubs you can rent a flat on Arcadia place.

Both of them is OK no problem. You can find easily taxi in the city, costs is not too much Deribasoskaya to Arcadia.

My reservation on Havanna str already confirmed through Airbnb.

Odessaapts bullsheeted me with High Season and weekend lies. I didn't like them. Trying to sell unpopular flats.

By the way is that possible to be true that many places are full in Odessa despite the war?

I have some arranged dates in Odessa and if I like them I will continue to stay there and if I don't I will move to Koblevo. BTW still don't know how to arrange an accom. In Koblevo. To book in advance is possible or not? Any recommandable hotel? Where to stay there?

(I always have lots of questions.).

[YumiYum]

Thanks for your advice Sean.

Where should I be located? Deribevkskaya street or somewhere close to Arkadia beach?

I am planning to go to Club Ibiza mostly.

Is there any advantage locating in Deribevskaya?

Deribasoskaya street is heart of Odessa (Istıklal or Bagdat street in Turkey for example) and if you spend your day in beach and night in clubs you can rent a flat on Arcadia place.

Both of them is OK no problem. You can find easily taxi in the city, costs is not too much Deribasoskaya to Arcadia.

[Iceberg27]

I've been using odessaapts for years. Reliable service. Try airbnb too and you can bargain hard with them.

Thanks for your advice Sean.

Where should I be located? Deribevkskaya street or somewhere close to Arkadia beach?

I am planning to go to Club Ibiza mostly.

Is there any advantage locating in Deribevskaya?

[Sean EZ]

I didn't make my reservation for accomodation yet.

Ukrainepartmens must be reliable. Any other recommendation?

Regards.

I've been using odessaapts for years. Reliable service. Try airbnb too and you can bargain hard with them.

[Iceberg27]

Hi, I would go to Koblevo during week, and weekend in Arkadia. Because in Koblevo the people stay for a week or longer, usually, as it is a pure holiday area.

But that also means, at elast some nightlife during the week. Nightlife in Arkadia more towards the weekend because of many locals.

The "Not so well-off Girls" sometimes give a better opportunity. For Moldovian grils, Koblevo is much more affordable compared to Odessa. Unless a sponsor available, of course.

I will definitely visit Koblevo and possibly spend most of my time in Koblevo.

I know I ask too much but I have three last questions;.

1) What do you think about safety issue in Odessa? American consulaty advices to exercise cautious in Odessa w. Are. T their last reports.

2) What is the P4 P options in Odessa?

3) Advicable hotel in Koblevo?

Regards.

[Reiner Otto]

Hi, I would go to Koblevo during week, and weekend in Arkadia. Because in Koblevo the people stay for a week or longer, usually, as it is a pure holiday area.

But that also means, at elast some nightlife during the week. Nightlife in Arkadia more towards the weekend because of many locals.

The "Not so well-off Girls" sometimes give a better opportunity. For Moldovian grils, Koblevo is much more affordable compared to Odessa. Unless a sponsor available, of course.

[Iceberg27]

At the end. I have bought my ticket for Odessa. I will be there next Monday (28.07. 2014) and will be back on Saturday. I believe being two guys always better there to be one alone because girls usually travel as two or three mates.

If anyone wants to get hang togetger. Please pm. I am a good holiday friend.

I didn't make my reservation for accomodation yet.

Ukrainepartmens must be reliable. Any other recommendation?

Also I am planning to be in Odessa for the Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday and if I like the place continue to stay till Saturday. But my Plan be is; If I don't like Odessa then I can move to Koblevo for the last 3 days. For Thurday -Friday and Saturday.

But I feel like it's better to do the opposite.

I don't know. Still confused about this.

I have made a shortlist for both places.

Koblevo.

Younger and poorer people.

Lower cost of accommodation.

Less options for Night Life.

Very few options for p4 p.

Less sharks.

No strip club.

Boredom on daytime.

Odessa.

Older people.

Much more english speakers.

Higher cost of accom.

More options for Night Life.

Better P4 P opportunities.

Many Strip clubs.

More possibility for dating from internet.

Better time to spend in daytime.

Girls are more beautiful.

Your comments and contributions are appreciated.

Regards.

[Cornoir]

And a "Rock Hudson" type definitely ain't!

How about James Bond a la Sean Connery type?

Cornoir

[Gergiev]

A "John Wayne" type is always welcome in UA.

And a "Rock Hudson" type definitely ain't!

[Reiner Otto]

What do you mean by "Softies"? I from Texas and I throw down with the best of them.

Then you will have better chances with Ukrainian girls compared to most of the Westerners.

A "John Wayne" type is always welcome in UA.

[Iceberg27]

Mar,

Thanks for your contribution. Really useful info.

I agree with Otto as a person been several times in Russia and Ukraine. Being a gentleman doesn't work there but I also accept that every person or every nation has it s own sexuality and attractiveness. Just different styles.

I think another important point here is flight safety. I was just about to buy my ticket for Odessa and this Malaysian plane crash happened. Idiots thought that it was a cargo plane. Normally I don't have flight fear but after all that, flying there can be too much stress. I guess flight ticket prices will also go up. Or down rapidly I am not sure. I was talking a girl from Kherson yesterday and she asked me if I am not afraid to come to Ukraine because of war. She was so surprised that I come there for a holiday recently. Anyway only point that I think these things will effect the number of girls in odessa or in other holiday spots. It will definitely decrease the number of foreign people will come to Odessa for holiday but if the number of girls are also decreasing the ratio will stay same.

[TexasMorrell]

Not to compare apples and oranges: A Russian, with similar amount of $$$ or looks like a Westerner, will always be in favour.

Even with 50% of $$$ or looks the Russian will have very good chances, as Westerners often are considered "Softies".

What do you mean by "Softies"? I from Texas and I throw down with the best of them.

[MarkyMark81]

As I find the earlier posts, although not exactly wrong, but somewhat cathegorical, I felt I wanted to contribute to the discussion.

As for my part, I have been to Odessa several times the last year, and visited most of the clubs in Arkadiya as well as in the city center.

It may be true things are not what they used to be 15 or even 10 years ago, but from my own personal experiences you can definitely have a good time in Odessa and Ukraine still.

Especially at the moment with the grivna being at record low rates. Yes, the clubs are not for the local blue collar worker for sure, a drink is 80 grivnas or something, adjust it to the real wages in Ukraine.

And you have some incredibly expensive drinks.

The girls that visit the clubs are the same as in the rest of the world. Many just want attention and some temporary fun, but some actually want to find a decent man, and you can still do the local day game as I usually do, by talking to girls.

In the stores and in the street. If you want partying and fun Odessa is great in the summer, although Kiev overall is a better alternative for this, easier to pull one night stands, more working girls etc, but like I said the summer is something else.

If you want to find a girl for something serious, Nikolaev or even Dnepropetrovsk or Kharkov is better.

I stayed at Chernoye More and Chernoye More Privoz as well as booked apartments, and both outside the hotel and in the clubs (Palladium for example) working girls have approached me.

Last visit in April two girls asked for 2000 zloty after going with me from Palladium to my apartment.

I would not pay too much attention to cultural differences and mentality. In my opinion people are pretty similar and have the same wishes all over the world.

Ukrainian girls are usually not innocent, they know their value and can be extremely skeptical and untrustworthy on the first meetings. Still, as I mentioned, when it is so cheap as it is at the moment to go there, I can not see how anyone would not even.

Have a decent time at least. I will be there August 2 - 13 myself.

[Reiner Otto]

Russians have never been any competition for western men in Ukraine.

Not to compare apples and oranges: A Russian, with similar amount of $$$ or looks like a Westerner, will always be in favour.

Even with 50% of $$$ or looks the Russian will have very good chances, as Westerners often are considered "Softies".