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Elane, my Kharkov assistant from vipgateway.

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Tales from Kharkov:

I am glad that I went with a local service company. It turned out that no one here speak english. I landed and found that the local airport is just a landing strip with a lean-too for the receiving hall. I looked around and did not see my local guide. Luckily I had the cell phone with me. I called the concierge and the guy told me that my personal assistant will be there in 10 min. It was a cold and arkward 10min. The lean-too receiving hall was opened to the weather. There were no bathroom, nothing. Every 2 min a taxi driver would come over to offer me a trip to the center for $50 dollars.
I forgot all of this once my assistant came. She was cute and spoke excellent English. The only complain was that she talk almost non-stopped. She was glad to see a real live American to practive her English! Her name was Elana. The apartment was good Western standard but, did not have a kitchen. I did not mind because I wasn't going to cook anyway and it provided more space for the living room. Overall, I think I paid $130/day for the entire package, apartment, concierge and personal assistant. I paid the extra $30/day just so that I have a personal assistant with me whenever I wanted.

On the way in I told my assistant that I wanted to shawoer and change my clothes and to meet me at 7PM because I wanted to hit the local teen clubs. I took a nap after the shower and almost did not wake up. All the flying around was getting to me. My assistant waited in the living room while I got dressed. I told her that I want her to help me with negotiation the local non-pro girls for dates. She told me not to run up to just any girl and ask for a date. Some of them might have a bodyguard or boyfriend and I might get in trouble. I should scope out the place then point out the girls I wanted to her. She can make the first contact since it is safer for a girl-girl to talk.

The first club I went to was not a teen club but a favorite with the local since it had very low door fee, club Avalon. I paid 10Hyg for the door, $2USD. The place had a nice size dance floor with naked girls dancing in cages. The local girls were mostly non-working girls. I skipped the VIP section and went to the seats near the dance floor. I immediately spotted 3 girls I like. I told my assistant and she went to talk to each of them. The 1st one was a working girl and the other two were just regular girls. I talked to the working girl and she wanted $100 for the night. I suspected that she raised the price because I was an American. So, I told her I'll think about it and went to talk to the other two. My assistant translated everything throughout this entire encounter. Initially, I was a bit shy of asking for stuffs like anal, no condom, S&M, etc with the translator repeating everything but, my assistant senses this and told me just to ask and that she doesn't mind. So, it was interesting to actually verbalizing my desires.

None of the regular girls was into what I wanted so, I head back to the working girl. She was willing to do everything I wanted except S&M for $150/night. I was tempted to hit other clubs but, the alcohol got to me. I told my assistant to get a taxi and took the girl home. Since I was hungry but, didn't want to go to a restaurant, I told my assistant to go get me a pizza and charge it to my account. After her shower, olga and I started to talk with the help of a dictionary. I found out that she was a student at the local institute and that she is trying to get enough money to pay her tuition. It was only $300 for half a year but, she has to pay for food and her apartment. While we talked, Elana got back with the pizza. I gave her a 10Hyg tip and to meet me at 11AM the next day.

It was nice to eat with a totally nude girl serving you! After the pizza, I took Olga to the bedroom. We went at it for about 3 hours at every position that I can imagine. She started to run to the bathroom to throw up because I was forcing down her throat too hard. After the third time at this, I told her just to spit on the floor. When I get tired, I just have her grinding while sitting on top. I finished inside her throat while she was gagging. She tried to get her face out to spit but I help tight. When I let go she was coughing and gasphing for air for 5min. I had wanted to do this eversince I saw it in one of the porn show I downloaded of the net. It was very satisfying. Afterward, she complains a bit about her face being all red, her makeup and hair all meshed up. I told her to take a shower and get in to bed to sleep. I had her sleeping with my member in her mouth the entire night. When I woke up she complains that her mouth is sore and that she had to get back to see her boyfriend. I gave her $10USD tip and $3USD for the taxi. It was the first time that I felt satisfied from my Ukraine trip.

I went back to sleep and at 11AM, Elana showed up. I told her to take me to an Internet cafee. I spent about an hour there. Elana was also helpful in translating some of the agencies' website I found in Russian and to email out messages for me in Russian to the girls so that I can get the local prices. I end up not to take any of them since Elana told me that she can get girls with better service and attitutes. I got hungry so, I took Elana to a nice restaraunt to eat. She decided to eat it up and went for sushi. I usually like sushi but, the fish did not look fresh so I had a salad and the borsch soop instead. After lunch, I told Elana to set me up with some cute teen types. I told her I wanted someone young, and into S&M. She called around and told me that she can get me 2 girls for $300 at 11PM. It was still early, 1PM, so I have tons of time to kill. I told her to give me a tour of the city. Show me where I would find the street girls at night and I want to hit the local shops.

She got a taxi to drive me around to all the local pick up places. She told me that most of the girls are there around 3PM until 7PM since it was winter and too cold for them to stay out on the street for a long lenght of time. Afterward we head to the center shopping strip on Pushkin street and started to walk. She approached tons of girls I pointed to on the street and got me tons of phone numbers for later. She told me that all of the girls are students so, they might not stay the night but, I can hook up with anyone of them for a dinner and some small gifts. I told her that I'll think about it but, I still want to see the two girls for that night. I told Elana that I want authentic Ukrainian food. She took me to a restaurant away from the center. I found that authentic means tons of food, a lot of potato and everything was cooked with total disreguard to the amount of calories. Needless to say, I finished a very small portion. I was tempted to have them pack the rest to go but, Elana told me that this is not a custom in Ukraine. You don't ever ask for a doggy bag. It was 8PM so, I told her to take me back home so I can take a nap and to bring the girls around at 11PM.

At 11PM two girls showed up. They did not looked all that great initially but, I decided to take both for $300 for the night since I was fully rested and felt a bit horny. I rationalized to myself that this wuld only pay for a girl for 1 to 2 hour in the States. So, I am getting a bargain here.

I am glad that I took both. They were excellent together. Usually, when I have two girls, I would crash and burn since I could never please both and can never have complete attention on the one I am on. I don't want lesbians but, I want the girls to anticipate what I want and to pay only attention to me! These two where yound but they had experience. We went at it for an hour with the girls switch role every so often. I had them giving me BBBJ with alternating hot water and ice. It was nice. In the end, I finish stradling one girl chest while the other lapping it up. It was a total porn experience just looking at their faces. All three of us jumped into the shower to clean up. I went to sleep between the both of them. I had my finger in each of of their muff the entire night. I promised myself to wake up and start my session with them again but, I was so exhaused that I never did. In the morning, I sent them away with a $5USD tip each.

I called up Elana and told her that I was happy with her choice. She told me that the girls were actual porn star and that they had been doing porn since 12. She offer me, as part of the VIP service from her company, to be my own star in my own porn movie if I wanted to. This tempted me but, I was not into it for this trip. I told her that I'll create my own script and I'll give it to her the next time I come to Kharkov. It was my last day in Kharkov, so I wanted to test out the street scene and the teen club. So, after lunch, I waited until 3PM and had Elana drove me around to look for girls. I found quite a few but, all of them have to be home by 8PM and I wanted an overnighter. So, I decided to head for the club instead. Most of the club scenes do not start until 11PM so, I told Elana to drop me off at my apartment. I had nothing to do until 11AM and I did not want to be bored. So, I asked if Elana would have sex with me. She declined saying that she does not do her clients. But, I think that she just did not want to do me because of the number of girls I been with or with how I treated the girls. In either case, she was willing to just stay over to talk. After we talked for a bit, she got comfortable and we started to flirt. It was wierd. I felt as if I am on a highschool date again. It was both frustrating and exciting trying to get to third base but got stuck at first. At least I learn some Russian words. We played around until 9PM when she told me that she was hungry. She want to take me to a strip club for food and drinks. I had nothing else to do until 11PM so, I agreed. We went to a hole in the wall type of club. The music was live and the strippers was actually quite good. But, I was not interested. I shared a fruit plate and tons of B-52 with Elana. That girl can drink! I had to stop after 3 drink but she went on to 6! The drink was OK but, too sweet for my tasted.
At 11PM we went to RAP club. At least I think that was the name. There were tons of school type girls there and the music was all reggae and rap. I had some problem dancing at first but, after a few more drinks I was doing fine. The place was really crowded since, it was a Saturday night. I was a bit tipsy and looking around I see all the guys were groping the girls so, I started to relax and had my hands all over any of the girl who would be near me. I was having so much fun dancing and groping that I forgot to ask any of the girl to come home with me. I ended up going home at 5AM and when the club closed. I told Elana to just to help me pack so I can catch my 7AM plane. It was with some sorrow that I left Kharkov. I think that the next time I'll skip Moscow and Kiev and head directly to Kharkov with the vipgateway's be your own porn star service. I'll include some of my picture from this trip.

[Nemez]

Yalta: Hotel Inturist Yalta - 100$/hour
Sevastopol: Nightbar Che (stripshow)
Simferopol: bar in Hotel Moskva - 50$/hour (ask the barkeeper)
Eastcrimea: 999 euro/week including girls, hotel, guide, translations (see pic)

BTW: it is possible to buy visa in Simferopol and Odessa after arriving at the airport, but only for 8 days. You will need a voucher from travelagency. Cost about 30$.

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[Fck Dick]

Does anybody know any escorts or any action in Sevastopol, Yalta or Crimea area ?

[yaks87]

Any information about Yalta is appreciated?

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[Hedonist]

Cundum,

Thanks very much for these excellent reports. I'm glad you had fun...

[Cundum]

Report from Zhytomir.

Stayed at Zhytomir Hotel. Really good start - I asked reception on checking in at about 6:30, if a girl could be arranged to be told it was "possible". At this time the receptionist had no English. After returning from dinner I found a new receptionist who did speak English. I repeated my request - she called the security guard over and told him - he started to ask what sort of girl I wanted (via her as interpreter) and she was very embarrassed at this so to save her I said that any girl would do. I was told that the price would be $20 or UAH 100. Incredibly low!!! I was told that it would take up to 40 minutes so I went up to my room. About 40 minutes later there was a tap on the door - it was the security guard who said it would be another 3 minutes. Sure enough after 3 minutes another tap on the door - this time it was the guard again and a young lady. He left her there and disappeared so I invited her in. At first sight she was not outstandingly beautiful - tall, blonde with glasses not very sexily dressed. She took off her glasses immediately and we sat on the bed to chat for a few minutes (no chairs in the room!). She had no English but she was lot of fun to speak with, even with my limited Russian. After I had established her name - Oxana or Ksuxa (which she told me is the same) and that she would have to pay the hotel UAH 30 out of the UAH 100 I was to give her she asked me what I wanted to do. I told he I wanted sex and she went to the bathroom to undress - when she came back it was revealed that she had a really full bust and that she was very slim. When I kissed her she responded in a VERY vigorous manner. All in all the sex was good with the only problem that pussy was off limits - I suspect she was having her period but she denied this but I wasn't sure that this wasn't because of a language problem. I had already decided that I wanted to see her again the next night and she told me that pussy would be available the next night so we finished with an uncovered blow job. I really liked this girl and was very much looking forward to the next night. We arranged that she would be at the hotel reception for 9:30pm the next evening. I gave her UAH 140 with which she was delighted.

After dinner with colleagues the next evening I made sure that I was back at the hotel before 9:30 pm. The security guard gave me a message that Oxana wanted me to phone her - I couldn't get through so I asked him to get her to call me. She said that she was just leaving so I told her to take a taxi at my expense. She called back in a minute or so to ask if it would be OK to bring a girl friend. Naturally I had no problem with this - even if I paid UAH 100 to each and the second just watched TV whilst I was busy with Oxana it would still have been cheap and Oxana is such a very nice girl that anything she wanted to do was OK by me. Regrettably she didn't turn up and I left the hotel the next day so wasn't able to speak to her again. By the time I realised that she was not going to turn up it was about 11:30 pm and I couldn't face the wait for another girl even if security had been willing to organise a replacement. I'm not suggesting that her number should be given out because of the uncertainty about her arrival but clearly I have established that anyone visiting this town should have no problem in arranging for his requirements to be met. The bad news is that the bed was one of the most uncomfortable I have ever been in in Russia or Ukraine. But I will certainly be trying to make contact with her if I ever go back to this town.

This is my last report from the regions - I am back in Kiev and return to London in a few days time so will have to look up either my (bezplatna) girl-friends or resign myself to Kiev prices which will certainly look expensive after UAH 100! I hope someone else can fill in the gaps for Poltava and L'viv and for any other cities of any significance.

[Cundum]

L'viv

I had very high hopes for L'viv. I stayed in hotel Dnister. The first evening I arrived at about 9:30 pm. Partly modernised hotel - no lady on duty on the floor and the security didn't have single word of English. I located all of the bars - not a single girl to be seen and the hotel's own sauna was well and truly closed. So after dinner at a nearby restaurant (because the hotel's own dining room was so uninviting and Soviet looking!) I went to bed. The next evening I again went out to dinner but on my return I asked the young man receptionist if the hotel could make arrangements for male guests. He was little slow on the uptake but eventually understood and said that he would have to ask about this. I asked who he was going to ask and he seemed a bit unsure (his English was quite poor) - he said that he would ask the man before him (which I took to mean the receptionist who had just finished his shift). I clearly was not going to get any sort of definite answer right then so I went to bed, read for a while and then assumed that nothing was going to happen. At 2:00 am the phone in my room rang - I answered but there was no one on the line. I assumed that this might be something to do with my request but nothing more happened so I went back to sleep. About 2:30 am there was a knock on the door - a young lady. Red-haired, medium build and very smartly dressed. She came in and I started to say that 2 0'clock was not my idea of a good time to be having sex - she misunderstood me and thought I was asking for two girls (again no English). She then told me that it was going to be $250 so I replied with an offer of UAH 200 - at this point she immediately left, giving me no further opportunity for negotiation. I must also say that, having been woken twice, I was not really on top of my game so my recollection of our exchange is quite hazy.

The same young man was still on duty in the morning so I told him that the lady had arrived far too late but I don't think he really understood. Anyway early that evening I thought I would try to make further arrangements for the evening intending to make sure that the lady would arrive before 11:00. At reception I was misunderstood again - they thought I wanted to make a reservation and referred me to another office where I found an English speaker who had no idea that the hotel offered such services and we jointly concluded that the lady from the previous night had been arranged by a security guard acting on his own initiative. Anyway he promised to follow up for me and to give me a call in my room when he had established how to make such arrangements. I waited for about an hour and returned to his office to be told by his young lady colleague that he had left for the day and that he had left no messages - she made it quite clear that she wasn't about to carry on the search for me. I approached the security guard who immediately said 'a girl?' and said very firmly 'Nyet'.

My conclusion is that it might be possible to make satisfactory arrangements if you speak better Russian/Ukrainian than I do but that this hotel is just far too difficult. If I return to L'viv I will ask to stay in another hotel.

[Cundum]

Report on Poltava.

DON'T RUSH TO GO TO POLTAVA! I stayed in hotel Kiev which is the pits. The first night I asked in reception - interesting experience because neither of the two ladies on duty could understand me and vice versa. Eventually one of them phoned her grand daughter who understood my requirements and passed them on but I was given a firm Nyet. In retrospect I should have also spoken to the security guard and the lady on my floor but the entire hotel was so run down that I stayed out of it as much as I could. I doubt that sex is not available I just didn't find the key.

I guess that I should have asked security and the lady on the floor but the whole place was too depressing.

[Cundum]

Report from Donetsk

Arrived early evening - hotel was Ispanski Dvorik ( which means little Spanish courtyard). Only been open for 4 months - every room is different - mine was Dali. The rooms are built around an enclose courtyard in which meals are taken. Unfortunately it is out of town and so I wasn't able to walk into the centre and there was absolutely no evidence of spare girls in the hotel - in fact there was no one else in the dining area when I had my dinner. The only English speaker amongst the staff was the receptionist who was a very attractive young lady with whom I didn't feel able to broach the subject of finding myself a girl for the night. I was tired any way so went to bed - the most comfortable bed I have ever slept in in Russia/Ukraine. I decided that the next evening I would take a taxi into town and try to scout out the casinos, etc.

The next evening I arrived back at the hotel, planning to take a shower and then do as suggested. When I took the sachet of shampoo I discovered that there was little supply of condoms for my use. Having discovered this I decided that I should talk to the receptionist (who by this time was new, equally nice young lady with a minimal level of English). I found it a bit difficult to broach the subject and tried to explain to her that it was terribly embarrassing but she couldn't understand me. So finally, I just said that at the hotel in Kharkiv they had offered me extra services - she now knew what I wanted and was immediately in charge of the situation. She explained that she would call for a selection of girls to be sent and that it would cost me UAH for 1 hour and $100 for the entire night. I said that i didn't want a selection but she said that this was the way it was done. So I went back to my room and in less than 15 minutes I got a call from her to come down. Just outside the door I found 3 young ladies. Not a word of English between them - the receptionist came out to help me and I made my choice (I hate this business. At least in River Palace when you decide to talk to someone it is not quite so obvious that you have rejected everyone else!!!!!) I was made to pay my UAH 105 to the other two girls and then I had to take the chosen one up to my room - through the aforementioned courtyard!!!!

Her name was Ada - 20 years old - totally shaven pussy - about medium height - medium build - blondish frizzy hair. A very wooden performance although kissing was allowed. Not an experience to be repeated but only due to the indifference of the girl herself, I hoped. She left after about 40 minutes. Before she left I asked where else in the town I could find a girl - several names in Russian which I did not understand but she indicated that the Hotel Dinamo and the saunas were the places to go.

After she left I went back to the receptionist, gave her a 30 UAH tip, and asked her about saunas. She quickly understood that I was looking for a 'massage intime' (pronounced in the French way - 'innteam'). So she agreed to make arrangements for me for the next evening at 7:30 pm. (The receptionist in this hotel work on 24 hours shifts so she was still on duty the next morning when I came down to breakfast). She advised me that she had made a tentative booking for me, so I went off for the day. When I returned early evening there was a new receptionist who immediately brought up the subject of my message. She hadn't really registered the necessity for the massage to be 'intime' but without embarrassment said she would get on the phone immediately to fix everything for me. After a while she called me in my room to say that it was proving a bit difficult - I went to reception to understand her problem. The answer was quite simple - the saunas were all full at 7:30. When I advised her that the time was almost irrelevant within reason. My fall back position was always that I could repeat last night's exercise albeit making sure that Ada wasn't amongst the line-up!!!! Anyway, the receptionist very soon had me organised for an appointment at the Sauna at 10:30 pm. She also arranged for a taxi and for the manager of the sauna to arrange a taxi to bring me back to the hotel providing me with a business card to give to the taxi driver 'just in case'. I was told that it was going to cost me UAH 250. A bit more than the previous night but we are still only talking about £30.

So, I got to the sauna - closed circuit TV before I was let in and then walked into an entirely empty suana. The (male) receptionist said (in Russian) 5 to 7 minutes but I wasn't quite sure what was going to happen in 5 to 7 minutes. Anyway he showed me around - it was a very nice sauna, showers, plunge bath, massage room, and a sitting room. He asked me to sit down and offered me green tea. Whilst the tea was arriving the door bell rang again and I then heard the sound of high heel shoes and was faced by 3 girls. Similar situation to the previous evening - only, this time, there was an 'English' speaker. So I chose the English speaker was asked for UAH 150 (same price as last night). This girl was medium height, red haired, slim with a very pretty face. Her English with my Russian enabled us to talk sufficient for our purposes. The sex was satisfactory, although not spectacular, although kissing was allowed (actually encouraged|). We finished with a covered blow job (at my request).

She repeated that the place to go for girls in Donetsk was Hotel Dynamo but that they were not available unless you asked for them. I'm not quite sure what this means but presumably you have to make the same sort of arrangements I had done the previous day i.e. through reception and/or security. She also told me that there is only one agency in town and that they have about 24 plus girls on their books. For this reason, I am happy to disclose that the sauna is "Siesta" and that its phone number is 338 - 06 - 50. She gave me her name and mobile number but I don't think it wise to publish either but will be happy to give it to members who e-mail me - emale_code@hotmail.com. In retrospect, I see that I had booked the sauna exclusively for a full hour and that the same agency had been asked to supply a girl or girls in exactly the same way as on the previous evening. So, in effect, I had paid UAH 250 for a change of venue. Not a big deal but worth while understanding.

Again, in retrospect, I guess that I had been too generous in Kharkiv (see previous report). Probably, UAH 150 would have been quite acceptable.

[Cundum]

kharkiv

apart from an indication from a previous member (sorry i can't quote your name - i am having difficulty accessing wsg). i went to kharkiv on sunday 31st and stayed for three nights including the night of my arrival. i took the train from kyiv and arrived at national hotel (ex-intourist and located in lenin avenue) at about 12:00p.m. clearly, other than the above mentioned report, i had no idea where to start looking but was heartened when the porter asked me when we arrived in my room if i would like the company of a girl. i said yes please and expected either a phone call (as in hotels in moscow) or a tap on the door. neither occurred and i went to bed without making more effort - mainly because after a 7 1/2 hour journey i was quite tired. i thought that it would be easy to talk to the same porter again the next evening after work and just remind him of his offer and to pin him down to a definite commitment. but i was a bit stuffed when i discovered that it was different doorman on duty when i arrived back at the hotel on monday evening at about 8:00. i needed a bath so didn't try to speak to the new doorman. at about 9:15 i came out of my room having written out the appropriate russian words for my request and found an attractive, very slim, blond young lady sitting in the lobby of the 4th floor. she jumped up when i came into view and we quickly established that a price of uah 200 was attractive to both parties. her name is sveta. so we went back to my room and had disappointing sex - no kissing (anywhere) and a fairly wooden performance. but she was attractive so when, as she was cleaning up the debris after the performance, she suggested that we go to dinner together, i agreed. this girl had no english and as i said in my report on last week in kiev i have a few words of russian but only for the normal niceties of conversation. anyway, we did indeed go to have quite a nice dinner but my bill was 'padded' with several items which we did not eat or drink. she clearly has an arrangement with this particular restaurant. all in all this cost me an extra 100+ uah.

i had also been persuaded to pay for a bottle of wine and some grapes to take to the restaurant - i understood these to be for desert. these were bought in the 2nd floorcafé/restaurant of my hotel. when we went in there for these supplies there were another two girls in there with whom sveta was obviously friendly. i also noticed that sveta spoke to both the dezhernaya (female floor manager) and the security staff on our way out and, as far as i could tell, she told them where she was going. so she was obviously well acquainted with them.

after our dinner she went home and i went back to the hotel - this was about 11:00 pm. i debated whether to go to kharkiv hotel to crosscheck the previously given information but decided that i would first explore the second floor bar of my hotel. sure enough, the two girls i had previously seen were ladies available for the pleasure of the hotel guests. i was made all sorts of offers (e.g two for $80) but spent no time trying to bargain because i had no interest in further sex that evening. the names of the two girls were alla and ira. ira was very tall with blond hair and spoke some english. alla was red-haired (out of a bottle) with virtually no english and not nearly as attractive. i discovered that they had not been there the previous evening (sunday) which explained why i had not been visited after my conversation with the porter. their normal working hours are 9:00 pm until 2:00 am every day except sunday. apparently their arrangement with the hotel is that they pay security uah 50 for every night they work and security do not allow any other girls to come into the hotel.

the next evening i went into kharkiv centre to look at the casino and disco of hotel kharkiv which had been given as a potential location at which action could be found. the disco was not open. i went to the casino three times during the evening from between 7:00 and 11:30. on my first visit there were 3 girls sitting on sofas near the bar - i guess they were working ladies but did not attempt to establish this for sure because there was not a single other non-employee in the place and i felt rather out-of-place. i also reasoned that, if i returned after dinner, there would be many more girls from whom to choose; that the pole dancing might also have started; and that i would be amongst a slightly larger crowd of punters. before returning to the casino i also scouted out the striptease club which is part of the same hotel - when i walked in there wasn't a single customer and the two strippers were having a bowl of soup at the bar behind a curtain. i know they were the strippers because i surprised them and they immediately started taking off their woolly cardigans as they stood up. the barman hurried out to tell me that there was minimum charge of 50 uah for a drink and i guess that i would have been entertained to non-stop dancing for as long as i chose to stay. but i am not in the habit of either drinking or watching strippers in a morgue.

when i got back to the casino things had not progressed much. no girls in the sofas, one man playing pontoon and no pole-dancing!!! this was about 10:45 pm - the equivalent clubs in kyiv start at about 10: pm and by this time woud be in full swing. so i went to have another drink and made a further visit at about 11:20 - the place was just as dead. i didn't want to stay much longer because i had an early plane back to kyiv the next morning. on my way back to my own hotel i thought i would have a look in the bar of the kharkiv hotel's new wing. this is on the ground floor and sure enough there were a couple of young ladies having a coffee. i joined them - one spoke a little english. we rapidly established that they were indeed working girls but they said that there was no way they could get into the national hotel (i.e. my hotel) but that for them to get into hotel kharkiv was easy peasy. i did not discuss prices but got their names (alena and angela) and telephone number - only one number - my email is emale_code@hotmail.com - happy to give the telephone number if requested. obviously i cannot recommend them - they are both quite attractive but i would say they are only about 18 so there is a slight danger of them being **** and also that they may be very inexperienced. but, if i had been (a) staying longer and (b) staying in hotel kharkiv i would have given them a try.

finally, i returned to national hotel to the second floor bar - negotiated with ira that any sex was not going to be mechanical and that kissing of all sorts was to be on the menu and that no additional money would be forthcoming. at a negotiated price of uah 200 (i actually gave her uah 220) the sex was quite good although the blowjob i received was covered but nonetheless delivered with a degree of enthusiasm. the first time with any new lady is always a voyage of discovery and i will definitely sample ira again if i go back to kahrkiv and that hotel.

finally, a word about the hotel. it was chosen for me because it was the nearest to where i was working. i am told that it is no better or worse than hotel kharkiv - i had a single room which did not smell too fresh but the bedding was clean. it cost uah 120 for the night plus uah 20 for breakfast.

[MoneyTree]

Hi, I will be making a big tour around Eastern Europe, also planning to stay in Kiev, Odessa and any other town that might be worth a visit. I am looking to get in touch with some locals who can also speak English or German, who have good communicative skills trying to make some money or find a new well paid job. Please get in touch with me or perhaps you can give me a referal of someone trustworthy who might be able to help me out in some of those towns finding some young girls, uni students, semi pros etc,
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[Pacific Creek]

I am planning a trip to Kharkov in February. If there is anyone who can give me information, I would appreciate it.

[Nemez]

I will be at Crimea from July till October 2003. If somebody needs help (book hotel, private rooms, girls...), feel free to email me. admin@kerch.info

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[Yossarian 99]

Local expert,

I will be visiting Kiev in August as well. Maybe we can hook up for drinks one nite. Always fun to meet up with others with similar interests.

Ay reason why you narrowed your choices down to Oessa and Smferopol?

yossarian99

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation in this report. However, I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. I don't expect great writers here, but it's not difficult to use the CAPS key for names or to put a period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

Originally posted by local expert
Hi guys,

I am planning a 7 days trip to the Ukraine in August with a couple of friends for the sole reason of mongering. Since none of us has ever been to the Ukraine, here are some questions:

1) We will either go to Odessa or Simferopol. Which is the better place to go to ?

2) Is renting an apartment in either of these places a good idea. There are adds on the internet saying it is just 40 bucks per day. Are these adds serious and are these kind of apartments clean ?

3) Is it true that the local amateurs are very keen on Western Europeans and therefore very easy to get to bed ?

4) Which are the most famous places for hoockers in the above mentioned places ?

5) How about normal bars/discos with amateurs ? Are there (m)any ?

6) What are the "rules" in these places ? Do you approach a girl yourself or wait until you get a signal from her, resp. do they approach you ?

Thanks a lot in advance