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[Lazywaste]

Well I visited Nikolaev again to spend some time with my GF and since she was giving me the cold shoulder I decided to take my contact up on his offer to find me a rental. I texted him mid-day and later called him that same night. He came to pick me up by taxi 15 minutes later and said what would you like. I of course told him I wanted a woman and we left on a 1 hour trek to find one. Being that it was Sunday night and he did not have time to plan anything out ahead of time - most of the entertainment was already booked.

However I want it noted that with all the places we visited - I am saying for sure that if you look for it or seek those that know about it - you will find a shload of p2p action in Nikolaev. The 1st place we stopped was directly across from the city center - its a bar with prostitutes in it waiting for taxi drivers to pick them up and deliver them. I forget the name off the top of my mind but its not hard to find. Well my driver went in and when he came out he said most of the girls were already booked for the night and the remaining ones were not that attractive. So we labored on - we hit up a contact he knew - she didn't show like she said she would - and 3 sauna's. the first 2 sauna's were booked. The 3rd sauna had just prior to our arrival been raided by the police and all the girls taken away - a real bummer - damn cops.

But we then found a street walker and took her back to the 3rd sauna since it was empty. Gentlemen - the sauna was a nice place to enjoy yourself. For 30 dollars for one hour to rent the sauna - this place had a pool, pool table, sauna, 2 showers, locker room, and bedroom. They also sell booze and other drinks. My driver stayed with me the whole time to negotiate everything and after the 2 hours (taxi + helping me find a girl, communicating and arrranging everything) he only charged 30 dollars. Then the woman got 100 dollars. I'm sure that normally we could have gotten a woman for less than that - but being as most were booked, I said wth, if for nothing else I'll have good research.

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[Romano V]

Because I can't add new girls with my account so I ask youto help us with rates, phone numbers.

All in PM please.

[Qjump]

Can you please contact this girl : http://znakomstva.ru/ytftt/?&s_l=F&s...P8PJGI3wlDlVp9

I want to know how must she wants for 1 hour, 2 hours or the night and by PM you can give her phone number.

There is a Bomba club near Dnipropetrovsk full of that kind of beautiful girls BBBJ just for 15 € but I do not know exactly where.

Surely on the road from Kremenchug there are many streetwalkers.

It is an industrial town and you can do a visit ofthe big city of Dnepropetrovsk too.

Why dont you contact her? you have her details!

[Romano V]

Can you please contact this girl : http://znakomstva.ru/ytftt/?&s_l=F&s...P8PJGI3wlDlVp9

I want to know how must she wants for 1 hour, 2 hours or the night and by PM you can give her phone number.

There is a Bomba club near Dnipropetrovsk full of that kind of beautiful girls BBBJ just for 15 € but I do not know exactly where.

Surely on the road from Kremenchug there are many streetwalkers.

It is an industrial town and you can do a visit ofthe big city of Dnepropetrovsk too.

[Cruiser D]

RTFF, the information is there...

[Top Caat]

Is there any p4p scene in L'viv (or however you want to spell it)?

I hope to visit this summer but if there's little or nothing doing, I'll go somewhere else.

TIA.

[P Bear]

That was the best answer I have gotten in my several years on the forum. I am proud to be among experts like yourself.

P Bear

[Romano V]

If you are interested by some girls 18-20 yo in Dnepropetrovsk just send me a PM and i will reply you with the number of the phone. generally in this city you can find attractive girls for 40$ per hour and 150$ the night.

Here the sex portal of this city : http://www.sex.dp.ua/index.php
Yulia does vey good massages body plus sex. 1 hour 200 grn = 30 € and 200 $ the overnight. Roleplays (teacher-schoolgirl)

And Elina, Nastiucha, girl 200 grn/h, Elena prekrasnaya 300 grn/h and 400$ the full night.

I just been in contact with these girls by internet and i never been yet in Dnepro.
I wish to visit the city in 2008 if you are interested by a wingman let me know.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !

[Bez Bezarra]

Sorry.

But, rather than hiding in vans or hidden just out of sight on a sidestreet, or just even walking the streets, its common after 21:00 to find Ukraine cities' prostitutes congregating in groups of 3 to 5 women, standing in plain sight waiting for customers at downtown intersections on the sidewalk just up against the corner of buildings to stay out of the cold blowing wind, or standing just inside bus stop rain shelters, or by the top of the steps of subway stations at the street curb.

These prostitutes business doesn't come from sex tourists, they service the locals. When you tell them you aren't from Ukraine, they'll get suspicious or not even believe you, so they'll be unwilling to go back to your place. They expect to provide a quick blow job in a john's car, or to walk with you and up to a very shitty flop house nearby and fuck you on a filthy mattress in a run down flat. Picture a hooker in New York City taking you upstairs to some slum apartment that is used for the sole purpose of fucking johns at the rate of 3 or 4 per hour.

Largest population
+Highest level of corruption
+National low standard of living
+Historical social role of women and sex
=Formula for the phenomenon of the tochka

Maybe the reasons Moscow is the city for tochkas are because first, even though London and Paris compare in size, the FSU's population is 6 TIMES that of England or France, so there's 6 times as many young women finding their way to those big city lights, and with 300 years of Tsars and 70 years of communism, and a middle class only now emerging, leaving a vast majority still in desperate need of a way to claw their way out of a bleak financial existence and dim future of opportunities.

Second, young FSU ladies are well aware that if they have a nice figure, they can certainly rent it to horny men with big wallets waiting to be opened, they just need to get to where the most money is, and that's Moscow. No of course its not the choice for most dyevochkas, most aren't coming to be prostitutes, but once there, if they get in a bind, its always an option.

With such an extreme economic history of struggling for survival, one might assume as many as half of FSU females may have agreed to sex in exchange for money/food/shelter at some time of their lives, so if the situation called for a need for quick cash with minimal effort, prostituting in a city bursting with money is probably never too far off the realm of possibility.

Finally, Paris and London's level of corruption is nothing compared to Moscow's, in its wide breadth, and history of acceptance. Combine that, with the entrepreneurial aggressiveness and acute business sense of the new russian mafia, and the tochka was just another logical conclusion.

In Asian and African big cities, there's plenty of prostitution, but are there tochkas like Moscow's? Would you call a Bangkok fish bowl line-up, or Chinese barber shop or health club line-up, a form of tochka? Or a brothel line up? Driving at night in to the Barokek brothel in Bali through the gate winding your way around the totally dark driveway in a taxi and having the floodlights suddenly shine in your eyes as 25 Indonesian prostitutes emerge from nowhere all shouting choose me, choose me!! Does that qualify as a tochka?

[P Bear]

Is anyone aware of a tochka in Kiev or in another Ukraine city? Donesk or Dnepro or Miriopol? I have heard about them- would like to see and maybe try one. Any guidance would be appreciated. PM me if you would rather not post the answer.

[Ukrainkemeup]

Thanks for the info. FYI, I was in Dixie House over Thanksgiving. Saw the menus, but was not offered anythhing besides the 2 dances in private room. Girl was awesome, fresh, attentive, friendly, believable, spoke English, and was at least an 8. She told me that there was no sex from any of the girls in Dixie House. I asked her where to get it, and she said on the street (I guess she meant Sovietskaya), or that the man who rents apartments would know.

[Ash1001]

I spent a week end in Nikolaev last August and rather liked it. Although it's a complete pain in the rear to get to (a 90 min taxi ride from Odessa apt) it's quite a pleasant town with plenty of friendly, approachable young student dyevs.

Re. p4p, I'd be surprised if virtually any taxi driver couldn't sort you out with something. Speaking a little Russian helps. I ended up with a 30ish single mum, very slim, say 6/10 facially, for a staggering $35 an hour. It sort of happened on the spur of the moment as I wasn't specifically looking for any p4p.

But Bez is right, no one would seriously go to Nikolaev for the paid options. Freebies are where it's at.

I'd almost go as far as to say Sovietskaya is a poor man's Khreshchatyk. At the week end, when the weather is good, it is jam packed with cuties, all strolling along, going nowhere in particular. I struck up a converstation with a couple of 19 year olds, one blonde, the other brunette. We went for some cocktails, calean and sushi (at Yakitoria) and I did some kissing with the blonde. I'm pretty sure I could have closed the deal had I been staying there longer. Alas, I had to go home the next day.

In fact I found Storm itself pretty disappointing. I spoke to some of the dancing girls in my faltering Russian but none seemed keen to meet for a date. The other (regular) girls I spoke to told me they were married!

It's pretty much essential to get a handful of leads on the Friday and Saturday and try to close them during the week. Unless you're there for business or some other 'real' reason, weekdays in Nik could drive you nuts with boredom.

And I'd avoid it in Winter. The idea sounds grim

[Tom73]

I commend your report, it was a good map of nik report LOL. Bez is rude, but what he is insulting you about is that you said nik good for mongering. If you had submitted same report saying how terrible it was there then he would be cool.

Nik as well as most provinces suck for p4p. Even little villages have town hooker but does that mean we should all go there? I spent time in nik a few times 3 yrs ago and it is pretty boring. Girls there were prob 20 dollar an hour so you paying almost that for lap dance at dixie? Truth is taxis always know where girls are and they ride around to the streets that hookers hang out on, if cold they in cheap pool hall hotel lobies. 9 pm is actually very early, they afterall are girls of the night. Probably he wanted to arrange girl for you, because if you was with him you would hear real price and he wanted to make profit on rate, LOL. Nik hookers look more drugged out then most cities (high drug user rate).

Yes storm is nice club but don't bet girls p4p there. In provinces girls dress in more miniskirts and stuff then in more western fashioned kiev, etc, but that doesnt make them hoes (easy maybe). Truth is because nik doesnt have many foreign mongers there is no reason for p4p be in clubs. Locals have other avenues for picking up. The truth is there is more p4p then you realized in nik (local newspapers, etc) but to tell us how great it was? Basicaly a 1 horse town, LOL.

[Explorer69]

I was in the Dixie club twice in three days and each time they had the exact same dancers - a total of about eight. The two girls that I could have gotten that last night I was there were definately more pretty from a distance, but I like a hot body over a pretty face anyday. If I had more time I would have done things differently - it actually makes me want to go back right now and find some play from there and other places. But I digress - I can save that for other cities like Kiev. As with anywhere else in the world they don't want to feel like *****s, so take some time to get to know them, or don't - heck I don't care, but speaking Russian will definately help your chances in Nikolaev. Some of them you could tell were students - some others it looked like they would do anything for a dollar and have fun at the same time.

Your report(s) make sense to me.

[Lazywaste]

I was in Dixie Club 2 nights in a row about a year ago. My feeling was that no sex was on offer in this club, except that one stripper was open to maybe meet me on her day off. Perhaps everything has changed? When I was there, the club had only 2 strippers, the rest were go-go girls. The strippers were mediocre quality, whereas a few of the go-go girls were hot student girls making money for their studies. The student girls were definitely "no, no" for any further activities. However, there could be possibilities to go there quite often, get to know them, and then..... My impression was a rather pleasant place to relax and watch girls with a friendly atmosphere from the waitresses. For sex: go somewhere else! My impression was that in Nikolaev you could get a lot of girls (freebies) if you spent some time there, but a lousy place for p4p! IIn fact student girls in Nikolaev that want to make extra money they do it in Odessa working for , I have had several of them there.

I was in the Dixie club twice in three days and each time they had the exact same dancers - a total of about eight. The two girls that I could have gotten that last night I was there were definately more pretty from a distance, but I like a hot body over a pretty face anyday. If I had more time I would have done things differently - it actually makes me want to go back right now and find some play from there and other places. But I digress - I can save that for other cities like Kiev. As with anywhere else in the world they don't want to feel like *****s, so take some time to get to know them, or don't - heck I don't care, but speaking Russian will definately help your chances in Nikolaev. Some of them you could tell were students - some others it looked like they would do anything for a dollar and have fun at the same time.