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[Local Expert]

Hi guys,

I am planning a 7 days trip to the Ukraine in August with a couple of friends for the sole reason of mongering. Since none of us has ever been to the Ukraine, here are some questions:

1) We will either go to Odessa or Simferopol. Which is the better place to go to ?

2) Is renting an apartment in either of these places a good idea. There are adds on the internet saying it is just 40 bucks per day. Are these adds serious and are these kind of apartments clean ?

3) Is it true that the local amateurs are very keen on Western Europeans and therefore very easy to get to bed ?

4) Which are the most famous places for hoockers in the above mentioned places ?

5) How about normal bars/discos with amateurs ? Are there (m)any ?

6) What are the "rules" in these places ? Do you approach a girl yourself or wait until you get a signal from her, resp. do they approach you ?

Thanks a lot in advance

[BigthDikth]

Thanks for the tips. If anyone else knows what's up...

[Lithium]

I was there in the summer so I didn't meet too many of the University students (and most of the time I was looking in the wrong places). The girls I dated were too poor to have e-mails so sorry I can't provide that.

My impression was that very few people speak English, and going around on the streets asking nice girls: "Pa Anglayski?" will most often result in them completely ignoring you or telling you to fuck off. Ukrainians are really suspicious of anyone who approaches them for natural reasons.

The best way to meet girls who speak English is by going to a University, find out if there are any English classes and go there (that's how I found my personal assistant).

Another good way is to go to a Internet café because a lot of the young people that work there speak acceptable English. Around these joints you'll also be likely to find some foregin students, mainly from Africa and Arabia, and these guys tend to speak English. Your best bet would be to befriend one of these guys who just love hanging around Westeners, (or hire an assistant) and use them to hook you up with girls and translate you. Unfortunatly you won't go very far on your own only speaking English in Kharkov, you need some help from locals. Look at it from the bright side though, you'll have plenty of oppurtunities to learn Russian, and since everyone will speak Russian to you you'll learn it in no time.

[BigthDikth]

Very cool Lithium, Kharkov sounds like a good place to park. Did you hang out with the university students? I'm hoping they all study English in school. It would be a shame to have some beautiful women in my class and not be able to talk to them. Were you able to get a pulse on if the students speak English or not? If I had 50 people in my class how many of them would I be able to talk to? Is there a place on the internet that I can go to and chat with people from Kharkov? Do you have any email addresses of people you met? And of course I would not mention this web site!

[Lithium]

I actually spent about a month in Kharkov last summer, the reason I asked Jetlagged about it was because I wanted to check if he had some additional information.

The best thing about Kharkov is that it's really cheap. I lived there comfortably for 20 US a day where as I had to pay up the double in Odessa and Kiev. Living and eating out is noticably cheaper in Kharkov. You can also hire locals to do whatever you need to be done for low costs: I hired a personal assistant/translator for 5 US a day (even though I could easily have payed her half of that).

The city also felt quite safe, I was never robbed or threatened, although dealing with jealous drunk Ukrainian guys can be hassle when they found out the guy who just stole their date is a foreginer.

I have a friend from Oz who stayed in Kharkov for another 8 months after I left. He said he's had a great time.

[BigthDikth]

Rendorseg, It's not a matter of being "hung up" on percentages, it is being in an area that one can comunicate with the people that are around you... Does anyone have any info. on a good place to go in the Ukraine? Please read my other post that is a couple of posts below. I thank you for your help!

[Rendorseg]

Praga & Budapest are considerably more expensive than Kiev/Odessa but in those cities it is much more westernized, they're smaller nations and they need to speak languages other than their own whereas Ukraine/Russia are a world unto themselves. But all in all if you're really hung up on % enlish statistics go the Hungary or Czech... Slovakia's supposed to have hot hot ladies and they are reportedly quite pro amerikanski thus I guess one can find English speakers... Good luck

Originally posted by BigthDikth
Hey Rendorseg, So Odessa might be the place? I'm looking for warm weather and a place where a lot of girls speak English but my plan goes deeper, I will be enrolling in classes at a university. Nothing serious just some art classes, something I've always wanted to do. But I want to find a place that has a good % of the students speaking English. I have been to Eastern Europe and saw how the local girls wanted to hang out with me. I'm not talking about the hookers; I'm talking about the beautiful young hotties that work at shops, sitting next to you at the cafés, etc. I realized if I am living there for a while with social access to the women I'd have a lot of fun and what better place to do this than at a university! So that's my plan. I was thinking of Prague. It is a little more expensive than in the Ukraine but a lot of the students speak English. If just 10% of the students speak English I think I'd be better off in Prague. But if I can find a place in the Ukraine that would be the best. Any suggestions?

[BigthDikth]

Hey Rendorseg, So Odessa might be the place? I'm looking for warm weather and a place where a lot of girls speak English but my plan goes deeper, I will be enrolling in classes at a university. Nothing serious just some art classes, something I've always wanted to do. But I want to find a place that has a good % of the students speaking English. I have been to Eastern Europe and saw how the local girls wanted to hang out with me. I'm not talking about the hookers; I'm talking about the beautiful young hotties that work at shops, sitting next to you at the cafés, etc. I realized if I am living there for a while with social access to the women I'd have a lot of fun and what better place to do this than at a university! So that's my plan. I was thinking of Prague. It is a little more expensive than in the Ukraine but a lot of the students speak English. If just 10% of the students speak English I think I'd be better off in Prague. But if I can find a place in the Ukraine that would be the best. Any suggestions?

[Rendorseg]

As a general rule in Ukraine the bigger the town the more there'll be english speakers so cities like Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov, Dniopetrovsk...Kiev would tend to have more enlish speakers though since it's the capitol but what %, hard to say but figure maybe 5% is a rule...
YET BigthDikth's strategy on focusing on Kharkov's university area seems quite smart. Which town for 4 months? Geeze, it realy depends on what you want...
Yalta is a lovely place, a BIG club scene, it's THE place to play for those who can afford it from EE. But each town has it's charms and in all I've been to the ladies are lovely or maybe it's just how they comport themselves, all those high cheek bones, how they wear extremely tight pants...
for 4 months? I think Odessa would be a nice mix of poorer economy than Kiev but still it's a big city, high % of lovely ladies, and probably a comparatively high % of english speakers also with plenty of universities also, but simply more of interest and historic places, etc....
Still, the Kharkov strategy may be good if indeed one can isolate specifically on that univ girl population....

Originally posted by BigthDikth
jetlagged, when you say "higher number of english speakers than would be found in most Ukraine towns" what percentageis that? I am looking for a city to park myself in for about 4 month...

[BigthDikth]

jetlagged, when you say "higher number of english speakers than would be found in most Ukraine towns" what percentageis that? I am looking for a city to park myself in for about 4 month...

[Jetlagged]

Lithium, actually it is an interesting and pretty city (by EE standards) just a lot easier to have a good time with college students from outside areas as they are away from home, broke and living in dormitories. Whereas, during summer fewer girls many of whom are living at home. Still pretty easy to score at any club or disco (WG's and amatures) and a higher number of english speakers than would be found in most Ukraine towns.
Well worth a visit.

[Lithium]

Jetlagged,

I was planning on going there in the summer. I guess schools will be out by then. Is the city no fun otherwise?

[Jetlagged]

Lithium, Kharkov is a big university town. So long as school is in, just go to any bar or cruise bars until you find one with plenty on female students. Once they realise you are a foreigner you will get more offers than you can handle.

[Lithium]

Does anyone have any general information about Kharkov? It's the second largest city and should merit it's own section.

[Explorer8939]

A little advice about Dniepropetrovsk would be greatly appreciated, I may be there in a week.