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[Jocob0815]

Sorry, but I have to disgree what has been posted earlier about Sudak. I spend there quite a few days in 2007 and also passed it on my way to Russia last year.

And all I can say I still can not forget the beatiful chix I have met. And Sudak as such is also one of the really nice places on Crimea.

For those who still feel young enough to go out and join the party scene, Sudak is certainly a good option. In the clubs where plenty of girls from all over Eastern Europe willing to enjoy the moment

I did do not speak any Russian myself. But compared to other places I found it comparably easy to communicate and pick up some girls, as there where quite a few students who where really happy to speak some English and even German.

[Kurenda]

I've been to Zaporozhie several times.

There's no need to wast your time on it, especially if you're newbie to Ukraine. Check the forum and info about Zaporozhie is almost non existing which says for it self.
Zaporozhie is just big, provincial, industrial place.

It always amuses me how a city big az Zaporozhie (population 800 000) can be so boring. You can die out of boredom after two days.

In Zaporozhie one can go for two reasons:

1. You go there on bussines and somebody else (like your company) is paying
you costs.

2. You know local people who will give you all needed support.

I go to Zaporozhie because of the second.

Going to Zaporozhie because of p4p or freebies is just waste of time, for this is much better to stay in Kiev as always - it will be much better, easier, probably cheaper. Plus in Zaporozhie knowing russian is essentiall.

Also in Zaporozhie people have a tricky mentallity thanks to their Cossac origin. Krime is high in Zaporozhie, in any form exisiting. About 100 km south from Zaporozhie is city Melitopol, called crime capital of Ukraine. And Zaporozhie is called Melitopol's first filiale.

When I ask people in Ukraine which is the worst city in Ukraine grat majority will say Zaporozhie and Lugansk. Guess they know why is that. That reminds me of situation I had two years ago in Moscow. I was in the company of several people and one of them was American working for the Moscow company. The company offered him a job to choose in Zaporzhie or Lugansk. So he asked his russian work mates which city to choose. Everybody told him "Stay in Moscow or go back to USA" he he.
Also when I ask local people in Zaporozhie what people live there the answer is only those who were born in Zaporozhie and are not able to go to some other place.
The only reason why some foreigner should go to Zaporzhie is to see power plants, hydro and nuclear. Seriously. So Sehns if you're going to Zaporozhie as tourist (sex or any other kind) my advice is to change your destination. Exept you're a hardcore explorer and adventurere, you're expert about Ukraine and you speak good russian.

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[Reiner Otto]

Will be there again in a week.
Anybody there to hunt for bunnies, too ?

[Sehns]

Has anyone been to Zaporizhia? I will be heading there in late april/early may. I hear its a lot shadier in the eastern parts of Ukraine than the west. In a place like this I dont imagine there would be many tourists.

Let me know please.

[Kurenda]

Probably not a place for this but anyway.

Sukhumi can be a good destination under condition visa is obtained.

Which can be hard since it is not received in usual way.

[Prosal]

It looks lots of Russians will go there this summer since it's much cheaper than Crimea and in time of crisis it's good enough.

That's prime information, thanks.

Georgian Black Sea resorts are also tempting.

[Kurenda]

"Sevastopol is loaded!!!!"

I think Bez wanted to say there are plenty of girls in the city itself.

There's no need to wait for summer holidays.

Due to the crisis I think the number of toursits will decrease a lot in Crimea and because of that local prices might even go higher.

Prosal, haven'te been to Batumi.

But I've been to Sukhumi. Well it's Abhazia now officially.

It's nice there also, lots of people from Russia there plus local girls.

I call Sukhumi "bombs + bikinis" figure out why. It looks lots of Russians will go there this summer since it's much cheaper than Crimea and in time of crisis it's good enough.

[Reiner Otto]

Also I think that twelve days (two weekends) is the strict minimum to "understand" a place and to have the most chances to meet girls, woo them and score.

I think, that this is NOT valid for the holiday spots. In case, you have some knowledge already before, like where is the main walking area with open cafes, without traffic and, most important, where are the discos (either the cheap ones, or the exclusive ones), you do not need much time. The point is, that most of the single girls are there only for 2 weeks usually, 3 weeks max. So they have to catch as much fun as possible in that short period of time. And to find some type of friend or sponsor :-)
I had very good expirience last year to invite a girl from Evpatoria beach to kazantip. She was very thankful, because of the entrance fee she herself would not have afforded to pay :-)

[Prosal]

But there are plenty of people from Caucasus

Thanks for your elaborated and comprehensive answer.

Talking about Caucasus ... have you ever been in Batumi in Georgia ? ... heard it was the best beach scene this side of Black Sea.

I must admit that I have a fascination for those tall and slender georgian brunettes. And an immoderate liking for georgian food and wines.

[Sevastopol1]

"Sevastopol is loaded!!!!"
The fear in Sevastopol is that the annual influx of Russian tourist this year is not going to happen due to "The Crisis" not too sure myself, the ones that arrive in early June and leave again end of August maybe yes maybe no, inflation is out of control, any imported goods from a bottle of soy sauce to electronic gear has gone crazy and is out of reach of many of the locals.

[Prosal]

Might be better to move around? A week at each beach town? Sevastopol is loaded.

Well, because particularly of the logistical problems I don't like to move around in vacations. Also I think that twelve days (two weekends) is the strict minimum to "understand" a place and to have the most chances to meet girls, woo them and score. Three weeks is better, and one month (or more) tiptop.

Sevastopol seems to be an interesting option, thanks. Surely a good blend of seaside atmosphere and big city life.

[Prosal]

Are you interested in hotel or flat ?

For a one-month stay, I'm more interested by an apartment, definitely.

Let's keep in touch by PM. I need to let the plan ripen. And not being led by an easier alternative like going back to Tashkent. Going to the same city repeatidly has its benefits.

[Bez Bezarra]

I only passed through, several times, but it seemed nice, had a great pastry shop. Beaches are nice, lots of tail, but many with families or their russian boyfriends.

Could think of a lot of worse places to spend a summer, but its also true that if you don't have steady hot girlfriends, it could be ultra-boring. Might be better to move around? A week at each beach town? Unless you make the right connections?

Sevastopol is loaded.

[Reiner Otto]

How do you arrange your accommodation there ?

Last year I stayed in a small, but good hotel in Evpatoria, about 300 yards from the beach walk. And very close to the centre of night-life. Booked it just "on the spot".
Not cheap, 60$ for the double. Because soon I am going again to UA (Nikolaev) by car, I will check out accomodation (small flat) for myself for this summer in advance in Evpatoria, too.
Are you interested in hotel or flat ?

[Kurenda]

Spending a month in Sudak and you may die out of boredom.

Sudak is small place, during soviet time it was exclusive summer resort for people of soviet film industries. People from film studios like Mosfilm and Lenfilm, directors, actors, etc. Today is the same, sudak is place again for film industry and some oligarhs. Common people was not allowed there.

Even today people from Russian don't like to go there. So meeting russian dyevs can be a problem and those you meet will be high demanding so make sure your pocket is full. But there are plenty of people from Caucasus like Chechens and Dagestanis. The word is most hotels in Sudak are owned by chechen mafia and even in 2006 there was a car bomb killing whole bunch of Chechens. Otto is right, Evpatoria is much better option, at least it's bigger place. Sudak is just a shit hole with hotels. My reccomendation is Balaklava. Cheap place, not many tourists, it's 12 km from Sevastopol. This means you can use Sevastopol as hunting ground and finding russian girls is no problem since 80% of Sevastopol population are Russians. This doesn't mean you will be succesfull of course, expecially if your russian is close to none.

Another option to think of is Azov sea. Towns Berdyansk and Jalta (not Jalta in Crimea this is different place with same name). It is not Crimea but people (girls) who go there don't have enough money for Crimea so this is cheaper alternative. Visitors are almost exclusive from ukrainian city Mariupol which has majority of russian population, and from russian cities Taganrog and Rostov-on-Don. Again russian laguage is essential so if you don't speak it then it's tough luck. Even with russian knowledge pulling a local girl from Berdyansk is close to impossible, better chances are with some out of town girl staying there for holiday.

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