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[Assimil]

1)to fry you need the oil;
2)you pay the woman in wheat or in flour

Eupatorie is on the north west side of Krim,

take a look

http://www.viamichelin.it/viamicheli...6&image2.y=10#

75 km

Bring your own bit-ch?

It's always about p4p (pay 4 play). Intstead of giving money directly you are the candyman - X, coke, whatever. If it's BYOB your still paying for everything - lodging, fees, food, bubble gum.

It's always about the p4p.

How far it is from Simferopol? Last time I was there it was a 200uah taxi ride from Sevastopol to Simferopol airport - that was one long ride. Of course a lot shorter then Kiev-Mariuopol-Sevastopol.

[Sean EZ]

Bring your own bit-ch?

It's always about p4p (pay 4 play). Intstead of giving money directly you are the candyman - X, coke, whatever. If it's BYOB your still paying for everything - lodging, fees, food, bubble gum.

It's always about the p4p.

How far it is from Simferopol? Last time I was there it was a 200uah taxi ride from Sevastopol to Simferopol airport - that was one long ride. Of course a lot shorter then Kiev-Mariuopol-Sevastopol.

I agree. But the odds of pulling a girl from Kazantip are about the same as pulling a girl from a Tiesto concert in Los Angeles (that is also if you are also fluent in Russian). It's a different story if you are staying in Krym or Simferopol (or any place for that matter) and invite a girl to join you. If you are both into electronic music than you'll have an excellent time. The complex also has a great beach.

I don't know how long is the ride from the airport. The ride from Odessa was long as hell. Not that the roads are bad, it's the kind of driving they do on the one lane highway and the amount of time it would take emergency personnel to attend an accident scene is scary.

[Cruiser D]

Bring your own bit-ch?

It's always about p4p (pay 4 play). Intstead of giving money directly you are the candyman - X, coke, whatever. If it's BYOB your still paying for everything - lodging, fees, food, bubble gum.

It's always about the p4p.

How far it is from Simferopol? Last time I was there it was a 200uah taxi ride from Sevastopol to Simferopol airport - that was one long ride. Of course a lot shorter then Kiev-Mariuopol-Sevastopol.

[Sean EZ]

Sean, what does it mean BYOB?

I meant bring your own girl(s)

[Assimil]

yes, roads are not so good, but i saw something worse for example in romania and moldova. road in august are busy because everybody want to go to krim, especially the south.
cars are especially from ucraine, russia, belarus...i didn't see wstern plates.
but anyway you can easily drive at an average speed of 80 km/hour.
and believe me, that's is not possible in romania or moldova.
problem are placat, it's easy to misunderstand them and to loose direction.
yes, if i am not wrong, there is an airport in simferopol, and then eupatiroe is near.

sean, what does it mean byob?

i was in kazantip last summer. it runs for several weeks at the end of summer. google kazantip, kazantip.com the season pass is $120. it's an amazing place if you are into dj/electronic music. a bottle of champagne is $10. mostly well off russians and ukrainians, some westerners. men outnumber women. the place is not all about but certainly lot of drug use there. good place to be if you are in your 20s and got looks, pushing it if you are in your 30s. best value is byob, chicks love the mention of the place. accommodation wise: mostly private rentals in nearby towns, i believe $50-100 per night, not sure though since i had friends arrange everything. getting there is tough, driving from odessa took 6 or so hours on a very busy dangerous road (non divided highway). probably best to fly. lastly, the place is as far from p4p as it can be.

[Sean EZ]

Any info about Kazantip festival? When and how to go Kazantip and where to stay?

I was in Kazantip last summer. It runs for several weeks at the end of summer. google kazantip, kazantip.com The season pass is $120. It's an amazing place if you are into DJ/electronic music. A bottle of champagne is $10. Mostly well off russians and ukrainians, some westerners. Men outnumber women. The place is not all about but certainly lot of drug use there. Good place to be if you are in your 20s and got looks, pushing it if you are in your 30s. Best value is BYOB, chicks love the mention of the place. Accommodation wise: mostly private rentals in nearby towns, I believe $50-100 per night, not sure though since I had friends arrange everything. Getting there is tough, driving from Odessa took 6 or so hours on a very busy dangerous road (non divided highway). Probably best to fly. Lastly, the place is as far from P4P as it can be.

[Devhunter]

Hi Hakan,

just go to their web site kazantip.com for up to date information. I have been ther in 2005, when prices were reasonable, but now it is a very expensive commercialized venue, spoilt by rich Russians from Moscow. Dont they spoil everything? (prices for apartments, girls)

[Cruiser D]

That complex is a hoot. Did you ever get a chance to go into the other buildings? The labs and workshops look exactly the same when the place was abdandoned when the Soviet Union broke up.

They did/are doing a nice job with the Mall conversion. Lot of renter turnover tho.

[Sevastopol1]

Thanks for the advice. I'm already tied into the Balaclava scene. Love the area. The semi abandoned naval bases are a hoot.

Is the Poseidon Mall the place inside the old Soviet R&D complex? The one with the skating rink inside? I think Sevastopol is a very under developed city with a lot of potential.

As far as the club table prices go. I know what you are saying but I didn't set the prices. I'll probably start splitting my time in Ukraine between Kiev and Sevastopol.

The place with the skating rink is "big pocket" Poseidon is on the same road just before you get to Omega Beach on the left.

[Cruiser D]

Thanks for the advice. I'm already tied into the Balaclava scene. Love the area. The semi abandoned naval bases are a hoot.

Is the Poseidon Mall the place inside the old Soviet R&D complex? The one with the skating rink inside? I think Sevastopol is a very under developed city with a lot of potential.

As far as the club table prices go. I know what you are saying but I didn't set the prices. I'll probably start splitting my time in Ukraine between Kiev and Sevastopol.

[Hakan Demir]

Any info about Kazantip festival? When and how to go Kazantip and where to stay?

[Sevastopol1]

Sev, what are you talking about? Are you saying I'm over paying at the clubs when I spend $100 for a table? That's the price at the better clubs in town for a table. Which when you think about if you and a buddy and a few girls can't drink/eat $100 in a club you were probably better off staying home.

I said I like Sevasopol because it's cheap and fun. Just like Kiev before the dark times.

Cruiser
You might be right, perhaps I’ve been here too long and my vision of reality is wrong. The point I have tried to make is $100 is a months earnings for many of the locals, (monthly overheads on 2 large apartments I pay for here run at a similar amount to $100(this would include gas, electric, water, security systems, services charge, cable tv, management fees and probably other bits and pieces what I have forgotten)). In this perspective you are talking big money for the locals, but compared to USA and Europe obviously not.
You might want to try some of the clubs/bars at Omega beach or Park Pabida (ïîáåäû)? Next time you are here in summer or alternatively the bars/clubs at Balaclava are very busy (upmarket, much Russian money here, but be very careful who you upset here).
Never been to Zeppelin but their ads are all over town, mile 44 (umashava) is good there is also a new club on the same block called ?45 (I think) also at Umashava there’s bar called Omega Bar which is very popular with the younger locals Friday/Saturday (all nights during summer). If you’re in need of some European type food in this area you have a new bar in the Poseidon shopping mall on the 2nd floor, take the elevator, turn left at the top walk into the kids amusement place and it’s directly on the right good women, Russian billiards and very good pool tables. The Playboy Club which you have previously mention is located within a 5 minute walk from The Yard Hotel on Êàìûñîâàÿ óï (fuck knows how you pronounce this one) might just have a look this weekend.
Easter soon which signals the start of the season here can hardly wait!

[Qjump]

Qjump-can you name some of these "student night clubs" , I will be in Kiev for the first time in May, I like to try a few of these clubs. I will report back after I return.

Thank you

In Kiev try "SAXON" very good I have found! and you still get the foreigner effect there!

[Bez Bezarra]

Samara cost of lodging in provincial Russia is a big turn-off.

Flats in the center on the main street are over $100 per day now. But I don't care, gotta go for it. Might have to be the last time though. Couldn't pass up a free $1500 frequent flyer plane ticket. Took five fucking years to earn one!

Don't know if I'll want to pay that much again, on top of the high prices for apartments. We shall see.

[Reiner Otto]

Guys,

Please help. I'll be in Yalta in June. Can anybody suggest friendly hotel or apartments and any good places for mongering?

Thanks in advance

Change your time schedule. Holidays for universities start in July, so not so much choice in June.
Hotel Yalta is good place to stay, not the best hotel intown, but reasonable prices. They even have web site.
But in June no problem to find an appartment "on the spot". Different story in July/August.
Lot of advertisements on the roads to Yalta; many possibilities to book an appartment on the spot with the people at the central bus station in Yalta. Less commission to pay for the agents in the park besides "Hotel Oreander" (that is one of the best in town, NOT Hotel Yalta !). In Oreander top class pros, 200$+/h.
Depending upon how long you want to stay, the first 2-3 days in Hotel Yalta make a lot of sense, and then look for yourself in the city.
One hint: Do not go to the private beach of hotel Yalta. This beach is only for hotel guests, so you will miss the contact with the "simple female, local tourist".
Just go to the beach in front of Hotel Oreander; about 3km walk. There you will see the "Local Beauties". There are also the cheap bars/discos in the evening.
And the beach ist the best place for hunting, anyway.

Good luck.