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[Daidalus]

after a lot of years away I am returning to the UK for a short trip.
Not being the brightest spark I forgot to check here before 'booking' my entertainment.

does anyone have any comments on the adultwork site?
Is it legitimate?
Do the local law enforcement use it to catch people?

You know just the usual kind of thing.

Thank you in advance.

[Jamie5063]

I need info about Marriage-of-Convenience

I am a USA man. My country is fucked. Bush ruined it. I need information about marriage for citizenship.

Try Asia in China it would take 5 mins to get married and the visa 1/2 a day if your married. But every 6 months. You can travel in and out on a business visa without getting married.

millions of laws but nobody takes any notice, More freedom here than any ware.The woman are great they treat you as they should and you can easy get young ones. You need around 0.5 million to retire here so sell the house and tell the ex wife and the taxman to FO like I did.

[Brymor]

I need info about Marriage-of-Convenience

I am a USA man. My country is fucked. Bush ruined it. I need information about marriage for citizenship. I speak English and Spanish. So I am thinking about UK, Canada, Spain, Australia. Please send information about marriage immigration laws from these countries. How difficult will this be? I want someplace with a proper medical system, and less fucked-up than USA. Help.

Me thinks you must be insane. Why on earth would you want to think about applying for citizenship in the UK. We are one of the highest taxed nations in the world, we have huge problems with social cohesion with large gettoes across the UK occupied by ethnic groups who have no loyalty to the UK or its customs and culture. We have a government that has virtually bankrupted the country and we have a welfare state that is utterly corrupted and that benefits those that do not have any will to work, over those that work hard to eke out a living. We have allowed mass immigration from asylum seekers, and economic migrants which has in turn contributed to the break down in community cohesion and we have even had recent demonstrations disrupting welcome home marches for British troops by misguided Muslims. Patriosm in our country is now associated with racism and as far as I am concerned I am better away from here..... If you want to come to the UK please let me swap with you, as far as I am concerned the US wins hands down.

[Homerj]

Does anyone know where the red light area of Preston has moved to. I was around Swan Street and Crook St and nothing, been backa few times and dead. Where has it moved to?

[Plague]

Hi,

I posted a report earlier but cannot see it here so I'm asking again.

I have a friend whom I want to throw a bachelor party this week. I need a reasonably priced stripper. Preference is white blonde girl younger than 25 willing to travel to an apartment in east london. Can anyone make any recommendations? Please PM me with details if you know any. I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Plague

[Jayatplay660]

Hi chaps,

I wonder if anyone has any information regarding the site wicked-girls. Co. Uk?

The girls on the site look fantastic but, given that they don't seem to appear anywhere else, I'm wondering if this is a bait 'n switcheroo operation.

All info eagerly awaited.

[Leon999]

if we extended jacqui smith's lunatic logic to other areas where exploitation occurs, we would arrest everyone who purchased cheap goods sourced from 3rd world sweatshops, i.e. customers of primark and other discount brand stores, because by cutting off the demand for these goods we would force the sweatshops to close and then their exploited and brutalised workers (mostly women and **** kids) would be free (except that they'd most likely starve, but that wouldn't bother js)

[Jan 156]

very balanced report here in the Economist
http://www.economist.com/opinion/dis...ry_id=12637017

and a pessimistic article in the new edition of some lesser interest
http://www.economist.com/world/brita...ry_id=12696827

[Optimist]

leon999 - good man. We have been doing a bit of mailing as well. The general opinion seems to be against the bill, but the Government has made its mind up, without any consultation. All it did was an internal review -i.e. consulted itself. its arguments are full of holes but this doesn't seem to be of importance to it - it's all a piece with New Labour's obsession with controlling the morals of the nation.
As you indicate, everybody reading this forum should know that the intent of the legislation is to make all clients of sex worker vulnerable to getting a criminal record (with the resulting loss of jobs, inability to get car insurance etc etc)
cordelia

[Leon999]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...d-1026318.html

this law is crazy, because the government's definition of trafficked is nuts. effectively even if a sex worker is willingly working via a brothel or agency - as many will do, especially the foreign ones, as these agencies/brothels provide certain levels of security, financial convenience, and companionship with other sex workers - they are still classed as trafficked, so any client paying for consensual sex with them would be charged with [CodeWord123]. the issue of consent would seems to have nothing to do with the issue of [CodeWord123]. so most of the girls working in the mps in china town would probably be classed as traffiked. and virtually all foreign sex workers too. the english collective of prostitutes and the international federation of sex workers are bitterly opposed to this bill, as are many sex workers, judging from the blogs. so are we going to have to close down the uk section of this web site? and will the forum administrators have to delete all record/posts from that section? can we please get some feed back on this issue from jackson and all the others running the site? the shit will really hit the fan if this law is passed. fyi, i have contacted my local mp via email to protest against this bill. hope it does some good !!

[AfAsia]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...d-1026318.html

[Optimist]

or maybe e-mail the Today or PM programmes at the BBC radio. These are two major opinion forming/ agenda setting programmes on teh BBC. they take careful notice of listener reactions

[Optimist]

thanks leon999. this is really serious. so serious that if anyone has the nerve to write to their mp they might like to consider some thoughts from us

the government proposes to criminalise men who pay for sex where the worker is controlled by another person e.g. a worker who pays for drugs etc. the stated aim is to scare men off from all paid sex

we are familiar with germany. in germany paying for sex is legal and there are a variety of different types of brothels and “clubs” where women can work and men can go (without stigma) if they want/need to pay for sex in a safe environment.

in germany this means that

1. a woman is able to choose to work as an independent person, with the result that trafficking or pressure to work from various sources is kept to a minimum.
2. workers are more easily able to get regular medical checkups as there is less social condemnation
3. there is less risk of violence and abuse to workers

this current proposal is based on a fundamentally false view both of the needs of the women who provide paid sex and also the men who pay for it. it will do nothing to deal with the issue of trafficking (which according to the government is a priority) as it will drive the profession underground and lead to worse conditions and increased risks for workers. it will also not help those women who have a drug habit as they will be driven to find other ways to fund their addiction.

it would be far more effective to legalise sex work and provide a safe and secure environment for workers and clients. this would enable police to focus on trafficking/**** workers etc.

the proposal is driven not by a desire to solve the problem of trafficking and exploitation of women. it is driven by a desire to impose an arbitrary morality on what is to all intents and purposes a problem that needs a practical solution: this is indicated by fiona mctaggart referring in a radio discussion today to the “scourge of prostitution” as a justification for the measures which are claimed merely to be aimed at trafficking

the net result will be a lot of abused women and a lot of men with criminal convictions.

[Leon999]

Hi guys,

Looks like there's stormy weather ahead. Read this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...men-lapdancing

Looks like the female taliban nutcases are after us !! The really want to stop all mongering, tery're just using the traffiking problem as an excuse!!

[J Lover]

I need info about Marriage-of-Convenience

I am a USA man. My country is fucked. Bush ruined it. I need information about marriage for citizenship. I speak English and Spanish. So I am thinking about UK, Canada, Spain, Australia. Please send information about marriage immigration laws from these countries. How difficult will this be? I want someplace with a proper medical system, and less fucked-up than USA. Help.

Could I just point out that half the other countries you mention are going pretty much the same way as the usA. Esp Australia (I lived there 10 years, and it's going downhill fast). Australia is a bureaucratic hellhole and a country of HIGH taxation (to them, all worldwide income is fair game). And they're on constant lookout for visa rorters. Assuming you find a suitable Australian subject, you (or rather she) will need to fill in a mountain of paperwork. They love their red tape there. They'll even want to know your grandmother's shoe size. Getting anything done in that country is a non-trivial process. It will be a slow and long process before you eventually get permanent residency. Once you've got that, you need to live there for a certain time (I think it's something like 2 years in the last 5 years) before you're eligible to apply for citizenship (more bureaucracy). This time, YOU will be filling in the forms. Not worth it.

I grew up in England and I can tell you it's not as good as the usA. I don't know anything about Spain or Canada, but if you're in reasonable health, I'd be aiming for a tax haven type country somewhere. How about the caribbean?