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[El Mujerista]

Hello folks,

Will be in London this week for a holiday. I am yet to book the hotel, I've googled a lot but not got any specific information regarding WG (working girls) Friendly hotels in central London (preferably oxford street). Are there any upscale hotels anyone could suggest which are notorious for having indies moving around in the lobby / bar / backdoor of the hotel in the night? I prefer picking up indies from the hotel area itself rather calling for outcall from websites like adultwork. Or is this too much to expect in London? (For E. G. : in Dubai, lot of 5* hotels have escorts in the lobby in the night, which you can just fix and take up to your rooms).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The Mayfair Hotel is known for usually having a number of working ladies gather in the bar. They will generally be the ones looking outward from the table / bar as to be seen.

[Haunted]

Hello all,

Just to say Hello, and I'm sure I'll be asking for help, hoping for some support.

Long time monger, around 25 years. Mostly NYC, but also Canada, St. Maarten and Dominican Republic and other parts of the USA.

I see London is a whole different beast!

I'm in the process of learning as much as I can from this forum.

Travelling to London in about a month, staying for 2 weeks. Will be with family so will definitely need incall. Haven't made hotel reservations yet.

Looking forward to some good times!

[Monger Learner]

Hello folks,

Will be in London this week for a holiday. I am yet to book the hotel, I've googled a lot but not got any specific information regarding WG (working girls) Friendly hotels in central London (preferably oxford street). Are there any upscale hotels anyone could suggest which are notorious for having indies moving around in the lobby / bar / backdoor of the hotel in the night? I prefer picking up indies from the hotel area itself rather calling for outcall from websites like adultwork. Or is this too much to expect in London? (For E. G. : in Dubai, lot of 5* hotels have escorts in the lobby in the night, which you can just fix and take up to your rooms).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Monger Learner]

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[Jojosun]

Jojosun, thanks for the info. My price range in the UK would be up to 120 an hour, so realistic, and a tube ride of over 20 minutes is no problem. Very happy in areas like Kentish Town, Southwark and so on.

In the UK I am happy to try pot luck at single girl accommodation. I would never expect lineups.

I read an allusion (no more) to Leicester Square apartments on UKPunting (I think) but could find no further leads.

Thank you for the two tips from AW. Unfortunately I am in the middle of house moving from one part of UK to another and won't be in London for several months. My interest in this thread is to get some background and the research for future visits: wanting to know the best methods for finding incall providers.

I have looked at PuntingWiki under Soho Walkups and got what appears to be useful info.
Cheers.

You are very welcome and good to see you back on the London thread.

I also read that thing about " a brothel with many girls more like a club on a street somewhere in the west end, Soho, not Leicester square " on that site. Trying to jog my memory on the post. I remember whoever posted it got flamed in many replies. Will dig into it further and let you know. From memory it was £150 + sessions.

There are Line up brothels, Latinas are on Viva Street site, in Camberwell Green, Tooting, Hounslow.

Romanian girls are in the East End. Never been to any of them.

I found the best Romanian girls are to be found at HOD1,2 and in Milton Keynes. If they get up to any tricks they know they get outed on the usual sites and that will be the end for them. I don't monger with Romanian girls from adultwork, too much hit and miss and bait and switch but of course there are exceptions. .

For someone not based in London but in other cities in the UK close to an Airport, Germany, Spain, Prague with its clubs and show park will be the better options as London would be be more expensive when you factor hotel and travel costs.

[Jojosun]

I am sure than hundreds of lurkers are taking advantage from them!!

No problem with lurkers. I was at one time a lurker reading and taking notes and I still lurk on other forums in ISG on different destinations just in case.

At least those lurkers are lurking in Silence. ,wink.

[Optimist]

Jojosun, thanks for the info. My price range in the UK would be up to 120 an hour, so realistic, and a tube ride of over 20 minutes is no problem. Very happy in areas like Kentish Town, Southwark and so on.

In the UK I am happy to try pot luck at single girl accommodation. I would never expect lineups.

I read an allusion (no more) to Leicester Square apartments on UKPunting (I think) but could find no further leads.

Thank you for the two tips from AW. Unfortunately I am in the middle of house moving from one part of UK to another and won't be in London for several months. My interest in this thread is to get some background and the research for future visits: wanting to know the best methods for finding incall providers.

I have looked at PuntingWiki under Soho Walkups and got what appears to be useful info.
Cheers.

[Dreams]

100% in agreement. In fact I learned a lot reading your posts on here going back as far as I can remember.

For the benefit of anyone new here. Dreams is one of the most objective and experienced well traveled mongers on ISG. His posts which I follow on many destinations in the world including Germany speak volumes.

I am very thankful for his tips on the London thread including the Strip Clubs in Shoreditch which I didn't like at first, but on return visits I found many gems there and all at very reasonable cost.

A trip to one of the clubs there and following contact and research, landed me with a great session with one of the dancers who longer works there..

Thanks JJS, but it is true that, today, you are by far the best resource, if not the only one, on this thread.

As for being put off, it is just a way for me to say that most of the space on this thread snow taken by long and endless rants from the few, as you say, who just come to this thread to say that they monger elsewhere. I am an optimist, though, so try to read those posts, but now stop after the few first lines when I realize that there is no information whatsoever in them.

Cheers, and my appreciation of your consistency in continuing giving such good info. Although it is useless to those you are answering to, I am sure than hundreds of lurkers are taking advantage from them!!

[PayForIt]

Dreams, please don't be put off by the very, very few on here who have no intention of mongering in London no matter what.

Cheers.

Jojo. I'm afraid that you occasionally smatter some of your posts with total nonsense. Optimist and I DO have intention to monger in London. But it is such a chore to so outside agencies that it is barely worth it. You'll be glad to know that last night I attend a LU in Whitfield St off Tottenham Court Road, 3 girls, two Russian and one Romanian. Two blondes, one black girl. 150 for the hour with one girl, discounted to 280 for two for the hour. I took the latter. If you PM me I'll give you the number of the street if you want it. So I finally did manage to find a LU in London from a PM from a helpful member of the FKK threads! Bit of a shame it came from that source and not anyone on the london thread, and he even asked not to be identified as (and I quote) "there are some strangely very unhelpful guys on (your} Forum" My emphasis on the "your" to which I take exception. But his information was spot on, accurate and a good time was had.

Dreams has asked me not to reply directly to his childish drivel so I won't directly respond to him. What is hilarious is that he replies to posts he says he hasn't read! LOL! You couldn't make it up!

It's not a question of having no intention to monger in London JoJo. It's just that this is singularly the worst thread on ISG for the provision of useful information. As I said previously. You've gallantly tried to offer something up.

London hang your head in shame was not directed at you. Bear in mind I am a Londoner! It was directed at members who come on here and barely post anything of any value. You've applauded Dreams for his contributions. If he's ever posted details of addresses / names of girls / service levels etc (all the stuff on ALL of the other ISG threads) in London, please direct me to those posts. I very much doubt you'll be able to do so.

I'll close with this: you've finally posted the most honest comment I've seen in the London thread in response to Optimist: you said: "I know it sounds like a broken record by now, But if you're not into escorts, then London isn't for you or for anyone else who is only into choosing from a Line Up in a Brothel or FKK kinda of clubs. I do and did Line Ups at Brothels in many parts of the world and actually prefer it than being limited in my choice to one or 2 girls in a venue, But I am flexible in my mongering habits and mix and match with what's available anywhere in the world including London. ".

That encapsulates my point for over a year entirely. Picking from a LU in London is hard to find. Not impossible as I discovered finally last night and limited to three girls. But at least I got a choice. London is good for escorts. We finally agree on the point. Hallelujah!

The temptation to say that's it / over and out / goodbye to the london thread is truly tempting. Indeed I would have done so happily if it were not for the rantings of Dreams who seeks to tell me where to post / where not to post, "leave us alone" (like a brat in the schoolyard) and now that he doesn't read my posts that he comments upon. As a result, the temptation to continue posting in the London thread to defy his commands is enormous. If he wishes to meet me to discuss our differences I'm well up for that. But of course he doesn't read my posts so he won't see the invitation. I don't like pompous people who think they can tell others what to do and say. Dreams can become nightmares. Grow up and accept a little criticism of a mongering location.

[Jojosun]

+1. Jojo to your credit you actually are the only person who does at least try to give some information in this thread..

Its in the title.

Just read your post below and I think that's a lot of useful info for many mongers based on a personal recommendation and experience saving you all the research and leg work. You wanted useful info and there you have it passed on to you straight into your inbox.

I've had one PM from a London poster (who took umbrage at my hopeless tag) very graciously offering to PM his personal experiences and recommendations. I am very grateful to him. They are still independents .

[Jojosun]

For the rest JJS has provided info, as much as I have in the past, but not anymore, I am fed up that when I say something it is immediately considered at best useless, .

100% in agreement. In fact I learned a lot reading your posts on here going back as far as I can remember.

For the benefit of anyone new here. Dreams is one of the most objective and experienced well traveled mongers on ISG. His posts which I follow on many destinations in the world including Germany speak volumes.

I am very thankful for his tips on the London thread including the Strip Clubs in Shoreditch which I didn't like at first, but on return visits I found many gems there and all at very reasonable cost.

A trip to one of the clubs there and following contact and research, landed me with a great session with one of the dancers who longer works there.

Posted on her before on this thread. Here she is, Jai. http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=3034662.

Dreams, please don't be put off by the very, very few on here who have no intention of mongering in London no matter what.

Cheers.

[Jojosun]

Jojosun. Thanks for the Sloane info: price wise a bit more than I'm comfortable with.

Do you have any info about a similar set up I read about at Leicester Square?. I quite understand if for legal reasons you feel it best not to divulge.

Banter?. Okay Accepted as such. I guess we have different approaches and when things are written and one can't see the person then the nuances of communication cannot be seen.

I suspect my mongering in London will be very little: I am just trying to prepare for the occasional opportunity.

Cheers.

Price range at Sloane starts from £120 an hour or in that price range its £80,1/2 hour which is the max I would pay in London. . Never paid £150 an hour in London as for that price +, I am better off in Kiev my favorite destination, Szceczin Poland or Berlin.

Here's one girl a very lovely Hungarian Girl by the name Zaneta which I had the pleasure with at £80 1/2 hour. Zaneta and other girls here on Adultwork are some of the Sloane Ave Brigade and all are at £120 an hour,£80 1/2 hour. Zaneta is at present away on Holiday.

http://www.adultwork.com/ViewGroup.a...rofile%2Easp%3

Where did you read about the set up at Leicester Square?

Of course brothels which involve a 15 or 20 minutes underground ride are cheaper as rents there are much cheaper. Caveat, don't expect anything like FKK Clubs.

As for the Brothels with a line up in Kensington and Chelsea I posted on earlier, their price range is, was as follows.

£60 for 20 minutes. +£20 extra for BBBJ.

£100 for 1/2 hour.

£150 an hour.

Not exactly cheap but then again rents in that area is among the highest in the UK as you know.

One bud an ex colleague took out a girl from one of the brothels there and he paid for 3 hours. Next day he got a call from this girl a very attractive young girl who wanted to meet him socially for a drink at his hotel. He phoned me asking for advice as it was his first time in London. As she told him the night before that she was from Moldova which I knew to be a non EU country but he didn't, I told him to, pass and change his room at the hotel and get a new sim card. Didn't want him to take any chances although the girl could have been genuine and liked him, a generous handsome man, very friendly in his early 4 os.

Do you have any thing specific in mind, and what is your price range and what locations are you looking at so it would be of benefit to readers of this thread?

Cheers.

[Optimist]

Jojosun. Thanks for the Sloane info: price wise a bit more than I'm comfortable with.

Do you have any info about a similar set up I read about at Leicester Square?. I quite understand if for legal reasons you feel it best not to divulge.

Banter?. Okay Accepted as such. I guess we have different approaches and when things are written and one can't see the person then the nuances of communication cannot be seen.

I suspect my mongering in London will be very little: I am just trying to prepare for the occasional opportunity.

Cheers.

[Jojosun]

No problem as I enjoy doing the research which I didn't do or wasn't available when I first started mongering in London. I am based in London for few months in the year which makes it so easy and cost effective for me to explore it as well as exploring mongering options in many cities and towns in EE & Central Europe and its a lot cheaper and with better options than doing the same anywhere else in the UK including Manchester.

I started mongering with a line up at bordellos, incall venues, clubs across the border in Mexico and it only took us about 40 minutes to realize the difference when its all on a platter to choose from compared to hunting for it under the watchful eyes of so many LEOs. Only problem there its only Latinas or Black girls. That's why I love the Capital of Diversity when it comes to Mongering and Eating out options.

I know it sounds like a broken record by now, But if you're not into escorts, then London isn't for you or for anyone else who is only into choosing from a Line Up in a Brothel or FKK kinda of clubs. I do and did Line Ups at Brothels in many parts of the world and actually prefer it than being limited in my choice to one or 2 girls in a venue, But I am flexible in my mongering habits and mix and match with what's available anywhere in the world including London...

The main points in the Article with the link above which are worth Highlighting. " The sheer scale of what is happening in Sloane Avenue is surprising. In two blocks of flats, we found prostitutes operating on nearly every floor".

It shows how easy it is to arrange a Line UP if a monger wants to see before buying "Through a number of easily-accessed websites, we made appointments with 21 women at addresses in Sloane Avenue. All the appointments were made after negotiations with an "agency". The bargaining was based on an hourly rate for sex which ranged from £150 to £350. The process varies little between websites."

The girls on £150 an hour hour usually charge £80 for £1/2 hour. That's how much I paid a lovely Hungarian girl by the name of Zanita who was on Adult work.

This is the main part in the Article which would explain some of the background to Police raids on Brothels in London. Its not actually a raid on Prostitutes and Mongers as such, But raids targeting Illegals, Drugs, Pimps. " During our investigation into websites marketing women, we used internet links to make contact with Simon and, posing as a representative of an Albanian criminal gang, an undercover reporter arranged a meeting. He told Simon he was able to bring in illegal women from eastern Europe. The prospect excited him:

"I need girls who will do stuff the others won't," he said. "I'm operating three girls at the moment, but they won't work without condoms. The punters don't like condoms. Now is a brilliant time to expand. The business is there and I could use more girls. " he said he had been operating through his website for two months and already had a steady number of clients, around 12 a day.

Asked if he thought the explosion in numbers of women being offered for sex would reduce profits, he said: "No way. The business is definitely there. One of my girls has been through a convenience marriage and is legal here. That's no good. The best deal is to get girls from eastern Europe who are smuggled in. When they are illegal, you can control them."

Some micro-brothels.