London

[AlwaysOn2020]

No worries mate, that's part of the game.

That's being said, I might have an explanation for your experience when she was very into as you said....

Yes, agreed, that's quite possible. Also, it was during the initial stages of Covid / Lockdown. She did mention that they were barely getting any appointments. So maybe, just maybe, she may have been horny as f* too. As much as it's a business for them, Id imagine they'd start missing it when things go super slow all on a sudden. And also, I tend to hit my vape (green) before (most) sessions, so 10% of it could have been my dick thinking over my brain X).

Anyway, Roberta's forever on my blacklist.

Hope you don't go through such shit on your future punts mate. Cheers.

[Mongerer88]

I doubt if this goes anywhere. Germany has a similar nut who introduces similar legislation that dies after debate, but it is always useful to keep up with proposals.

https://eachother.org.uk/why-the-sex...men-less-safe/

[Steve 9696]

I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.

By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.

Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.

[Mr Matrix]

Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?

I would probably rule out May, UK has just entered another full lock-down, (all schools closed etc) which will continue until mid-Feb at least, this is bc hospitalizations are soaring once again with this new more infectious Covid variant. But UK was the first western country to start vaccinations and over a million people had already been vaccinated by end of December and Government are forecasting that by end of Feb all elderly and vulnerable will have been vaccinated.

By law the girls can't work at the moment as meeting inside a building with a stranger is not permitted, but some still are if they are desperate for money. I do not expect Brexit will change much regarding availability and those girls from EU already living here were allowed to apply to remain permanently anyway, but It may reduce the number of Romanians. There are plenty of Russian, Brazilian, Thai and other non EU working girls in London and they have always needed a visa to enter.

[Atanion]

This is several pages back so I'm reposting my rubric for choosing agency girls to reduce the chance that anyone has Prelude141 had with Roberta. This works very well for Diva, but it should work for any agency site.

If you run through this rubric, then the odds are overwhelming in your favour that you'll get the girl that's actually shown on the agency site and also receive the services you're looking for. Feel free to add to the rubric whatever works for you.

I've only been mongering for a few years, but I've learned that, like anything in life, there are ups and downs. I'm happy to report that my good experiences far outweigh my bad experiences. However, never put yourself in danger. I've never had to deal with someone hiding in the apartment or ever feeling that my safety was compromised. Let's all be careful out there.

I have personally used Diva and Babylon, and both agencies resulted in experiences ranging from OK to great. No agency will replace the need to meet the girl in person, but this is the rubric I use for any agency listing:

Photos

* Is the girl attractive?

* Are selfies available (not just photoshopped images)?

* Is video available?

Profile

* Is the girl in my preferred age range (early twenties)?

* Does the girl have my preferred traits (currently, slim blonde blue-eyed girls with natural breasts)?

* Does she speak English?

Services

* Does she provide FK?

* Does she provide DFK (not required for me, but nice to have)?

* Does she provide OWO (not required for me, but nice to know)?

* Does she duo with another girl (not required for me, but nice to know)?

* Does she dress up in costumes like secretary or schoolgirl (not required for me, but nice to have)?

Reviews

* How many reviews are available (ideally, at least three)?

* How far back do the reviews go (ideally, no more than two years)?

* Do the reviews seem real and not all written by the same person?

* Do any reviews state that the girl does not look like her pictures?

* Do any reviews confirm that the girl does indeed look like her pictures?

* Do any reviews mention that the girl was rude (although, this could just be bad chemistry between that reviewer and the girl)?

* Do any reviews confirm that the services listed were actually provided?

* Do any reviews confirm that characteristics mentioned in the profile?

* If there are negative reviews, are they far outweighed by the positive reviews in number and intensity?

* If a reviewer has spent multiple sessions with a girl, did the reviewer find the girl to be consistently good?

Currently, Diva lets me run through this entire rubric, and I would be cautious about any agencies that don't let you run through most of it.

Atanion.

[TimTheoDuncan]

Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?

[Downandup]

Hello Friends.

Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.

Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.

Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.

Regards.

I have not tried the local scene but these all sound like a scam. I'd recommend that you check on adultwork and find those with good reviews.

[Dennis Thomas]

Hello Friends.

Just want to get feedback from experienced guys in West Midlands_Birmingham, Coventry if girls advertised in Skokka / Vivastreet are reliable or some sort of scams.

Almost all girls wanted gift cards (Amazon, Steam cards, Tesco, Google Play etc) in return of services instead of cash and also want to pay up a minimal booking fee through bank transfer or PayPal.

Is it the norm. Advise and feedback requested.

Regards.

[Mr Matrix]

Yo Turgid,

My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.

I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.

Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.

02.

Not all, but I good percentage of Romanian working girls in UK have been trafficked in and are being pimped by Romanian gangs so not surprising there's bait-and-switch and service is poor. A search on AW under London escorts nationality 'Romanian' shows around 500 profiles, many are very similar worded as the gangs just do a cut and paste and reuse the same pics.

But having said that there are some very nice independent Romanian gems in London but you have to dig deep and think with your head and not your dick. I suggest cross-checking the name for plenty of good feedback on AW before thinking about taking the plunge.

Standard. Co. Uk / news / crime / police-arrest-17-after-romanian-sex-trafficking-gang-busted-in-east-london-a4287066. Html.

[LshRoomer]

Have you had many of those in London?

Yo Turgid,

My escort experience in London has been 50/50. Every romanian girl I have come across has been cold as ice with poor performance. This is excluding one Romanian / turkish girl that was amazing!! Half (and I do mean half. Bc I've had some that don't care) of the asians complain about your dick size. On the flip side, I've had ukrainian (my fav), polish, and czech girls that have done a great job, honor the menu, and look like their pics.

I have come across some bait and switch and refusal to honor the "whole menu", enough that I prescreen before actually engaging the escort.

Disclaimer is that I have never tried Diva. I've heard good things, so I intend to try next time I'm in town. Additional disclaimer is that I'm usually with a SB when in London. So, I may have unfair standards when judging the performance / interaction of an escort.

02.

[Marelobo Mex]

Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz its 103 to 2. Lol.

Boys if one bad report scares you off, fair enough that is what your hand is for. There is always some risk and some fun, so this is not totally unexpected.

Steve is correct you can minimize your chance of things like this. First question why isn't Roberta on Diva? These girls usually are on many escort sites to maximize earnings For example.

Rushana on Diva is Aletta on Babylon.

Stefsia on Diva is Celine on Babylon.

I wonder is Pacifica on Diva the same girl as Roberta on Babylon.

When I made my first trip to London, Steve advised me to try Diva, it is one of the best pieces of advice I have received.

Diva at the bottom of the page has link "Not Recommended Escorts" They post pictures of the girls you should avoid. I know it is a few clicks of work, and you have compare the pictures because the girls change their names on each site but they may be worth it to avoid bad experience.

I have a slightly different take and I like to try out new girls before there are 20 five star reviews, but that means I am open to the odd bad experience.

Even in FKK, my first FKK I sampled 4 girls and 3 of the four provided boring mechanical sex. I was like why is everyone raving about FKK. I just happened to get unlucky and select girls who were not good. Many good experience since then.

While I agree that if a girl has many good reviews, you are likely to enjoy her also. That is not a guarantee.

I did a session with Chiquita and she had only good reviews. Our session was horrible. Did I catch her on a bad day? I doubt it, more then likely it was something about me that made the session bad. There are no guarantees.

Similarly I did a session with Toutsi and it was pretty bad. I gave a 1 star review, since then she has only had 5 star reviews. Maybe she improved.

I have also done sessions with girls with mixed reviews and had a great time. Then I prefer younger and less experienced girls like I had at University than girls with amazing BJ or sex skills. We all like different things.

You did the best thing you can do, you wrote an accurate but bad review. Think about how many guys will not see Roberta because of this. Roberta may read it and change her behavior in the future.

Having a pimp in the next room is really bad, but I went to girls flat one time and she lived with 3 other girls. When she asked me to take a shower I could hear one of her flatmates banging some other guy. It is part of the fun of the adventure.

Good luck, I know if I was in London right now I would have set up multiple girls a day and I would lie on my back and watch them slide up and down my pole.

MM.

P.S.: Steve I love that you took the time to count up the number of positive reviews on your favorite girls.

[Steve 9696]

Guys do not sweat the recent bad report of that thug and the Babylon girl. Yes. That was a bad experience. And yes I am surprised because Babylon appears to be legit. But their response of we will give you a credit was lame. If Roberta is still on the site I wouldn't use Babylon again says they don't care.

But here's the thing this is never going to happen with a well reviewed Diva girl. Any girl with ten good reviews is absolutely a sure thing. Clean safe and predictable. Like currently working still at 150 are Fortune and Mermaid. I've seen them both more than once. They are totally worth 3 X that. Fortune for pure optics and bubbly awesomeness. She's just to die for pretty with the best ass yes number 1 on planet earth. When I saw her her BJ and kissing was a bit weak but I think it must have improved. In any case for attitude and optics alone she's worth every penny.

And Mermaid. OMFG. That girl is a number one best DFK on planet earth. And what a trooper. She will BJ as much as required to pull a rabbit out of a hat (was super drunk one time). She is an amazing tall and bubbly girl. Just FYI She's thin but very soft muscle tone as opposed to Fortunes more toned young girl body. But wow the fucking and BJ and Especially the DFK.

Anyhow point is these are just examples. Go read their reviews. Like 20 or more 5 star reviews. These girls are home runs. No risk. And these are just examples I've been with who are currently working and still 150. A huge amount of options at 200.

So do NOT worry about this rogue incident. Go with any well reviewed Diva girl and you are all set.

(P.S. Hopefully you guys know this by now but I am not affiliated with Diva or any of its girls).

PPS went and counted reviews. Mermaid has 59 5star reviews. Fortune has 103 5star reviews and two 2 star. I guarantee the two star guys were assholes. Goes to show even a superstar gets some difficult customers. Cuz it’s 103 to 2. Lol.

[Gold London]

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[Turgid]

.......... think about WGs that have given piss poor service for good money; bad attitudes, bad hygiene, or ones that don't honor their list of agreed upon services; WGs that won't switch positions or that intentionally bait and switch.....

Have you had many of those in London?

[Prelude141]

Man has this report spooked me about mongering in London. I know its just one report among many good ones but my my. Makes FKKs seem awfully good.

Well, before March this year I used to fly once to twice a month to Germany, Dusseldorf or Frankfurt, I prefer by far FKKs, they are a legal frame and the bad girls can't go to far with you in being dishonest. I have started to go back to visit escorts in London since beginning of the pandemic but after that experience with Roberta and her pimp, I m done, I will wait Germany to reopen. And by the way the Roberta is the typical girl you find in FKKs, those who always try to fool the customers but, in a club, the loss is limited to 50 euros, you never see an armed pimp behind the door next to the bedroom, you immediately can go for another girl if the one you chose initially does not deliver as promised.