London

[Atanion]

May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national...n-stay-at-home#meeting-other-people.

The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.

Ah, that's a great point. I suppose it can be awkward to have reviews saying strangers visited you at a time when the city is supposed to be on lockdown.

Like all things Covid, I hope this is a temporary thing.

[Mr Matrix]

I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.

May just be a temporary move to protect the girls, under current Covid National Lockdown laws they can be fined.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national...n-stay-at-home#meeting-other-people.

The main UK mongering site Adult Work has also blocked any feedback or reviews probably for the same reason.

[Atanion]

I noticed that the dates have been removed from the reviews on the Diva website. That's a bummer because I like to know how long a girl has been active. I'm guessing this is to make the girls seem "timeless", but I look at a girl who has been reviewed for a couple of years differently than one who has four or five years of reviews. Oh, well, that's the agency's choice. But, this doesn't seem to put the needs of mongers first.

[AlwaysOn2020]

... For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York...

Haha. Man you brought back some good memories. Dubai was always a good time. Moscow especially. Remember getting the table with bottle service sometime back in 2010. If I remember right it was less than 250 USD with a bottle of JD. Best part was being swarmed by the hottest ladies working that day. I guess they assumed we were loaded. Worth the money. Almost like opting for the VIP booth at Platinum Lace in London.

I wonder if Dubai is still the same. Haven't been there in over 8-9 years. Abu Dhabi was good too. Meeting Pinays at the club and bonding before heading back to your room used to almost always guarantee an amazing punt. Hope things haven't changed.

Only problem with the UAE is that it's illegal. Doesn't impact the number of women in the clubs but I'd hate to be locked up, especially in the Middle East. But I guess they'd never really enforce it. The tourists coming in bring in all the money.

[Mongerer88]

Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.

I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.

It has nothing to do with safety. There are two intolerant groups in most parts of the world. The moralistic right-wingers who do not want to observe anything sexual, and the left-wingers who have been told that all sex workers are trafficked and are not actually intelligent enough to evaluate data and determine that isn't true. There may be a small number of moderately intelligent law-and-order types who believe that the cash earned by a small portion of the participants in the commercial sex trade fuel the drug epidemic, and they are willing to destroy the entire industry just to "cure" that small but legitimate defect.

Publicly-visible clubs and incall locations with multiple ladies are easy for these opponent groups to find and publicize. Online escorting, while less economically efficient and therefore more expensive, are less visible to the public and are the trend in many places, especially the USA With respect to independent escorts and sugar babies. Large multistate escort agencies in the USA Do not exist because their cash accumulations are a convenient target for federal law enforcement. Governments themselves are incapable of regulating brothels. Most women hate the byzantine and oppressive rules at the legal Nevada brothels and they are no longer popular with customers after the ease of Vegas escorts operating independently.

Forget about changing the minds of those on the far-left or the far-right. It is better to just coexist with them and let them live in a world where they don't know that the lady walking through the hotel or sitting at the dinner table is a happy hooker. The you. K. Of course isn't as ridiculous on this subject as the USA But neither country will ever be as open-minded as New Zealand.

[Nickc]

...Hard to beat London though. It's like going to a high-end buffet...

Yeah London can be good for online escorts, some perhaps overpriced. But to me online escorts can be hit and miss. I much prefer going to a bar or club and actually meeting the girls.

I suspect london prostitutes like how they have control online. They control the hourly rate. There is No club competetion. They control the market. For me Dubai Clubs like Moscow, Premier, York, Rockafellas etc offer a great vibrant atmosphere to meet and select some great girls. Theres a thrill to the chase there. In Dubai 3 to 400 us can be all night or 4 to 6 hrs anyway. You'd be hard to beat that in London. Even German red light districts can turn up some real gems. All those stairs in Frankfurt can be a test but often there can be gold at the end of the rainbow. Currently under Covid I'm stuck in NZ which I'm finding is good. Many NZ Girls have flown home done their isolation and turned up at brothels here. No Covid here. All brothels and stripclubs open and overflowing. All legal. I can't understand all these police busts in London and France. The girls are far safer in a club or brothel than as online escorts. Here if theres a immigration issue, Immigartion turn up not the Police. Though there are a quite a few online escorts as well. One problem is because we have such a small population theres little Auckland chatter online. The girls know who we are)) And we got this Admin that just deletes posts at random. 2020 was the year of the Chinese Year of the Bar. China should reimburse us for missed lady time. Thanks Nickc.

[Atanion]

I second this.

Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.

I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.

Melty.

Lalibella.

Stefsia. Before she got implants.

Brinley.

MM.

I third this.

The last girl I fucked in Europe (before the pandemic) was Fortune, a Romanian girl from Diva. She was a joy to be with.

Mermaid, Noleta, and Henny are also Romanian Diva girls, and they are among my best punts ever. Hell, if I could merge Henny (looks like a fashion model) and Mermaid (kisses like a devil) together, that might be my dream girl.

I've started putting together a list of Diva girls I plan to fuck within minutes of returning to London. I've added a few Russians (my new interest), but there will be plenty of Romanian girls, too.

[Marelobo Mex]

Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.

I second this.

Flory was my absolute favorite teen girl of all my trips. Young, inexperienced and submissive.

I have had great and not great experiences with Romanians, but no different than any other group. Other truly memorable awesome Romanians.

Melty.

Lalibella.

Stefsia. Before she got implants.

Brinley.

MM.

[J Janni]

Another option to consider when in London (or indeed anywhere in the UK), is seeking.com. Lots of pros use it, some semi-pros and lots of 'good girls. ' (And the usual scammers / online only / want £2000 a month).

If you invest in the time and effort, pre-trip, you could have a tight little British 18/19/20 year old in your hotel room all night for £250-300. A lot of the girls will agree to BBFSCIP, BBCIA if that's your thing and you approach it correctly (don't treat them like working girls, don't use mongering / escort terms.).

Discovered it late in my latest stay in the UK and with tier restrictions and lockdowns, only managed to meet one girl. That one girl was worth the one month's membership I ended up paying for.

[AlwaysOn2020]

Whoa. Hold on there....No bait and switch there.

Exactly! Ro girls turn out to be a larger chunk of the working girl population in and around London so you tend to encounter far more bad apples. That being said, if you're smart about it and pick well reviewed Ro girls from agencies like Diva, you're most likely going to have have an amazing time. It's like saying I'm never going to go with Thais again because I've ended up having to meet a few who were never in the mood.

About Ro's posing as Brazilians etc. - I wasn't aware of this so not going to comment. May be true.

To the original question. My suggestion is that you go with Diva. I've tried multiple channels. By the time I had to leave London, Diva was the only one I was a regular with. So much so that I got the membership. Long story short, I can swear by them. Shortlist the girl that looks interesting, look at the reviews (Diva tends to be honest and keep the bad ones on too) and a then read up a few more on Adultwork. You're almost guaranteed to have an amazing time.

[J Janni]

Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.

Fair. I spend most of my time in the UK at the cheaper end of the market, so have encountered plenty of bad Romanians, or at the higher-end, with English girls.

[Steve 9696]

I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).

Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.

Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.

Whoa. Hold on there. Yes there is that reputation. And probably with Adultwork you are right. But do NOT paint London Agency Ro Girls with that brush. They have without exception been awesome for me.

Fortune, Kendall, Cambria, Rivetta, Noleta, Linden, Hermine, Heidi, Flory and more. Without exception these Diva Romanian girls have been same or better than their pictures. Great performance.

The best Romanian girls in the world work for the top London agencies. No bait and switch there.

[J Janni]

Hey all,

Currently planning a trip to London in 2021 because flights are cheap and refundable (from the USA).

Right now the dates I'm considering are (post vaccination).

- end of May.

- end of July.

- end of October.

Any thoughts on the following.

- Are there likely to be lockdowns in May (still worried about that as the US vaccine timeline is faster than for a lot of countries).

- Are escort services likely to be open / available and are the girls still going to be in the UK due to Brexit?

- General recommendations for which of those timelines makes the most sense?

I'd go for the end of July. Summer and vaccinations will have brought cases and deaths way down and everything will be open as much as possible, as happened summer 2020 (despite no vaccinations.).

Girls have been working all the way through, perhaps maybe not the first little bit of the first lockdown. I'd say 90% you see on Adultwork are still working now, ditto a lot of the escort agencies.

Avoid Romanians. They're mostly all bait and switch and give shit service, or the girl in the pictures and give shit service. Be suspicious of Brazilians, Portuguese, Italians. At the cheaper end of the spectrum, they're mostly just undercover Romanians.

[Ruchikaverma36]

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[AlwaysOn2020]

Despite the further lockdown Diva girls seem to still be working. There are reports from Jan 6. And Diva only posts validated actual meetups. So interesting.

I think they pretty much leave it to the girls. And for that reason, I'm sure they're still open. Back during the initial lockdowns they were still functioning. Lot of the girls had scooted back to their home countries, but for those who were around, I think few of them were still working. (Not suggesting that either way is the right way to go during the pandemic).

On the Diva Page, if you check 'Now Available', it'll show who's working.

I think the only ones who really shut down are the legal, registered agencies. Like the one in Milton Keynes.

At the end of the day, Diva and the others just help get you in touch with girls. Like Adultwork with an operator on the other side who can guide you.

But of course, a with Covid and the new numbers, folks should stay safe.