London

[SmithLeonardo1]

Hello mates.

Been in Phoenix club twice in the past 2 weeks.

In contrary to the suggestions here I wouldn't give it another try.

My first visit was not pleasurable at all, girls were not nice. The second time I went there it didn't go any better although ladies were different. I highly recommend Allure or if you want a different approach. Seeking is a good option.

Cheers!

[GoodM8]

I have met several girls from Olina in the past and only few are on the web page now. I would recommend Crystal and Mia. Mia don't do alevels. I have also met Venus through another agency, Asian Selection, and had good experience but I see she has some negative reviews. I see some of the new escorts have god reviews, Fallyn, Layla etc.

For british escorts, I would recommend Agency Allure but they are on different price level.

Thanks for the reply, what about Bijoux agency for English ladies?

[Steve 9696]

Hey mate. Your best bet is Seeking as you pay for a month and get unlimited chat. The credit based sites will drain your wallet before you weed out time wasters and platonic or online only girls. I also find seeking to have more genuine girls who want an arrangement. I have had great success at seeking over the years. Even post covid when the scene appeared to attract more online or OF proper gold diggers you will find a gem or two.

Price range varies even in london. I think the lowest I paid per meet was 150 and the highest is 350. Fee to quality is not correlated. You will find the insta model (or think they are insta) who will be delusional enough to think you will jet them to Monaco for a weekend party at your private Yacht are so fake and bad in bed. Your girl next door uni student tend to be the best and normally don't demand anything more than 300 per meet if that.

I know you want the full dinner and then back to hotel experience and looking for one with weekly allowance. But my advice is to go initially for pay per meet and get straight into it (hotel drinks etc) then decide if you click to then switch to allowance based arrangement and other stuff like dinner etc. Just be careful when messaging on seeking not to be direct about ppm. Perhaps once you get a conversation going negotiate over WhatsApp or telegram. Follow usual precautions, stick to your set limits and under no circumstances pay anything in advance or pre meet (guaranteed scam).

All the best. Pm me if you need more specific advice.

This advice is spot on. To be clear he means the site www.seeking.com. Which is Seeking Arrangement site. Only legit site and as he says if you spend the time you will find your girl. You can browse all you like. You pay only when you are ready to message and then it's a monthly fee. I've seen over 50 girls this way including London.

There is a newsgroup for this here. Go all the way to the bottom to General and Dating Agencies and then to Seeking. Quite vibrant. Lots to learn. I posted my guide there some months back but can send if you pm me.

I think the 150 referenced would be almost impossible to find these days. Girls are going to be 300-400 in London with some asking a lot more — kick them to the curb. You can find gems. But 300 is about the low boundary post COVID.

[Jes007]

Hello gents, this will be my first post in this forum and I will be visiting London for 10 days at the end of September, do you know suggest best girl from Olina and British escort?

I have met several girls from Olina in the past and only few are on the web page now. I would recommend Crystal and Mia. Mia don't do alevels. I have also met Venus through another agency, Asian Selection, and had good experience but I see she has some negative reviews. I see some of the new escorts have god reviews, Fallyn, Layla etc.

For british escorts, I would recommend Agency Allure but they are on different price level.

[Edh007]

I have been in London for a while, so far I have only experienced escorts and massage (the usual suspects, Olina / Diva / Chinese massage centers).

I am interested in sugar babies after I read about them. What is a normal rate for a decent looking girl in London? I don't care about IG models, OF girls material. I would like a decent looking 20-25 years old and go for a weekly meeting, something like dinner plus sex afterwards. I am 35, average looking and with a decent career, in case that girls also take this into consideration to decide their rate.

Also, what is the best way to find a girl? I am on secret benefits and whatsyourprice. I got interest in both but I would have to pay quite a bit just to be able to talk to the girls.

Hey mate. Your best bet is Seeking as you pay for a month and get unlimited chat. The credit based sites will drain your wallet before you weed out time wasters and platonic or online only girls. I also find seeking to have more genuine girls who want an arrangement. I have had great success at seeking over the years. Even post covid when the scene appeared to attract more online or OF proper gold diggers you will find a gem or two.

Price range varies even in london. I think the lowest I paid per meet was £150 and the highest is £350. Fee to quality is not correlated. You will find the insta model (or think they are insta) who will be delusional enough to think you will jet them to Monaco for a weekend party at your private Yacht are so fake and bad in bed. Your girl next door uni student tend to be the best and normally don't demand anything more than £300 per meet if that.

I know you want the full dinner and then back to hotel experience and looking for one with weekly allowance. But my advice is to go initially for pay per meet and get straight into it (hotel drinks etc) then decide if you click to then switch to allowance based arrangement and other stuff like dinner etc. Just be careful when messaging on seeking not to be direct about ppm. Perhaps once you get a conversation going negotiate over WhatsApp or telegram. Follow usual precautions, stick to your set limits and under no circumstances pay anything in advance or pre meet (guaranteed scam).

All the best. Pm me if you need more specific advice.

[GoodM8]

Hello gents, this will be my first post in this forum and I will be visiting London for 10 days at the end of September, do you know suggest best girl from Olina and British escort?

[GiovanniLondon]

I have been in London for a while, so far I have only experienced escorts and massage (the usual suspects, Olina / Diva / Chinese massage centers).

I am interested in sugar babies after I read about them. What is a normal rate for a decent looking girl in London? I don't care about IG models, OF girls material. I would like a decent looking 20-25 years old and go for a weekly meeting, something like dinner plus sex afterwards. I am 35, average looking and with a decent career, in case that girls also take this into consideration to decide their rate.

Also, what is the best way to find a girl? I am on secret benefits and whatsyourprice. I got interest in both but I would have to pay quite a bit just to be able to talk to the girls.

[Ash 2020]

Have anyone tried naturist spa? Rio or any other well known?

[Edh007]

After having read almost all the posts from 2023, I guess I have a decent idea about various agencies offering different options. I still have few doubts:

1. Phoenix Club. Is it legal or there is a chance of a police raid? Also same query for House of Divine?

It is legal in terms of how it is set up. You are not paying for girls services you are contributing towards a swingers party. The establishment was running for years (over ten years) previously known as lady marmalade. They changed location several times but usually due to end of lease. I recall a few years ago they had a place in Edgware Road, wasn't too discrete and I think the residents in the block complaint about noise. The place was visited by the police but only to speak to the organiser, they did not bother the girls or the guests. I think another visit was at the back of the council complaining about unlicensed issuing of alcohol (they switched to soft drinks since then). I have had a discussion with the host about the legality and according to her the landlords normally know about it and she cooperated with the local authorities that nothing she is doing is illegal. I somewhat trust her as they would have been properly shut down if they were breaking the law.

Not sure about HOD, they have some links as back in the days some of the Phoenix girls would work at HOD. The running of the brothel is a grey area but authorities tend to be more interested in any establishment suspected of human trafficking. In theory there is a risk of raids as it is technically a brothel but others may have different view on HOD.

2. Olina seems to be famous for Asian chicks but again the price is almost GBP 200+ while I have had multiple similar / better Asian gals for GBP 70-100 in my base country. The question is am I missing something?

These are standard prices in the UK and specially London. On AW you may be able to find decent independent British girls for 150-180 per hr (some including usual extras). the 70 to 100 per hour range is common amongst Eastern Europeans but I tend to avoid them due to high possibility of being trafficked (specially Romanians) so higher risk of raids but also morally wrong as they may be working against their will.

3. No one on this forum has spoken about gals who advertise on Massage Republic. Is it not legit? I found some direct posts from gals and no involvement of any agencies? Assume it ll work out cheaper. Any views on the same?

MR is not as popular by working girls in the UK, you may well find the odd legit offering here and there by adultwork tends to be more popular, then you have vivastreet but it has more chances of fake accounts.

All in all, my recommendation is to give Phoenix a try, it is a unique experience and if you have the energy you could be humping for two hours straight, quality of girls vary and of course you have to be comfortable with people around you. If you are familiar with seeking you may be able to find quality companions for the same price range 200-250 but tend to be longer sessions, better quality and more like GFE than the usual pro visits.

[VickeyForever]

After having read almost all the posts from 2023, I guess I have a decent idea about various agencies offering different options. I still have few doubts:

1. Phoenix Club. Is it legal or there is a chance of a police raid? Also same query for House of Divine?

2. Olina seems to be famous for Asian chicks but again the price is almost GBP 200+ while I have had multiple similar / better Asian gals for GBP 70-100 in my base country. The question is am I missing something?

3. No one on this forum has spoken about gals who advertise on Massage Republic. Is it not legit? I found some direct posts from gals and no involvement of any agencies? Assume it ll work out cheaper. Any views on the same?

Hey people, I will be in London very soon though just for a couple of days.

I am looking to see a few genuine Brit gals.

Need help:

1. Which agency would provide genuine Brit gals?

2. Current rates and services included?

Could someone also guide about any agencies providing European gals?

Any help would be highly appreciated and reciprocated for anyone travelling to Mumbai.

[Abox79]

Hey people, I will be in London very soon though just for a couple of days.

I am looking to see a few genuine Brit gals.

Need help:

1. Which agency would provide genuine Brit gals?

2. Current rates and services included?

Could someone also guide about any agencies providing European gals?

Any help would be highly appreciated and reciprocated for anyone travelling to Mumbai.

A good starting pint would be the following site.

https://www.cherrygirls.co.uk/

Diva Escorts seems to be popular for EE girls but there are loads of agencies where you will find the same / similar girls.

[VickeyForever]

Hey people, I will be in London very soon though just for a couple of days.

I am looking to see a few genuine Brit gals.

Need help:

1. Which agency would provide genuine Brit gals?

2. Current rates and services included?

Could someone also guide about any agencies providing European gals?

Any help would be highly appreciated and reciprocated for anyone travelling to Mumbai.

[Hgexp]

I am not sure what you mean by high end but Diva, Babylon, and Olina have never been considered high end since they offer 200-250 price points. That said, my experience the primary difference between "high end" girls is that British girls charge more and the apartment is a lot nicer. But damn you will get amazing girls on Diva if you pick the right girl. Although the pickings have gotten a lot more narrow at 200 these days.

I should note that Olina is all inclusive. Most girls include CIM in the price and sometimes anal. Of course they are all Asian. This is Olina's niche. I spent amazing time with Anna there. I am sure there are other good ones. But regardless of which agency you choose READ the REVIEWS. This is the key to success.

In Madrid I prefer Vive vs an agency. Go to the club and see them in person and fuck on-site. I love that.

In general, I'm noticing that models at a 400-450+ price point are more appealing to me, even at Diva. Seemingly more naturally beautiful bodies with much prettier faces. Or who knows, maybe I'm unconsciously correlating quality with price. Also, the plan is to do an outcall to my hotel room.

[Abox79]

I'm making a business trip between Madrid and London, and have been looking up high end agencies in both cities.

Very impressed by what I'm seeing of London so far for high end escorts, Allure and Diva in particular. UK Glamour Girls looks interesting as well.

Any other recommendations for high end agencies, guys? I've also looked at Babylon, Bijoux & Olna.

If you want to go and see a girl that is at least 80% to 95% like her photos then go to Bijoux or Allure. If you want to go and see a girl that is likely to be approx. 50%-95% like her photos then go and see a girl from an EE agency. IMHO a girl from the aforementioned is more likely to provide VFM. Not been to Madrid yet but if it's anything like Barcelona I would choose Madrid over London every day of the week. Just my opinion.

[Steve 9696]

I'm making a business trip between Madrid and London, and have been looking up high end agencies in both cities.

Very impressed by what I'm seeing of London so far for high end escorts, Allure and Diva in particular. UK Glamour Girls looks interesting as well.

Any other recommendations for high end agencies, guys? I've also looked at Babylon, Bijoux & Olna.

I am not sure what you mean by high end but Diva, Babylon, and Olina have never been considered high end since they offer 200-250 price points. That said, my experience the primary difference between "high end" girls is that British girls charge more and the apartment is a lot nicer. But damn you will get amazing girls on Diva if you pick the right girl. Although the pickings have gotten a lot more narrow at 200 these days.

I should note that Olina is all inclusive. Most girls include CIM in the price and sometimes anal. Of course they are all Asian. This is Olina's niche. I spent amazing time with Anna there. I am sure there are other good ones. But regardless of which agency you choose READ the REVIEWS. This is the key to success.

In Madrid I prefer Vive vs an agency. Go to the club and see them in person and fuck on-site. I love that.