London

[Jojosun]

London after dark up to 4 am for Mongers where take out is available for a price. Not suitable for someone on a budget.

http://londonafterdark.co.uk/london-...ubs-in-london.

This one been there for years Rififi club "This exclusive gentlemen's Club and has been around in Mayfair for almost fifty years. The club's facilities include a bar, restaurant and about fifteen hostesses to entice you. ".

Chaplins Club was one of the best known of hostess clubs where as many 30 girls where there at a time & available for take out after buying ladies drinks ie a bottle or 2 of Champagne. It was closed down.

"Is it all over for Mr Soho? " http://www.standard.co.uk/news/is-it...o-6979938.html.

"For more than 30 years, Oskar Owide. Now 72 - ran hostess bars where girls tricked gullible punters into paying vast sums for cheap drinks. If the customer could afford to keep paying the bar bills until 3 am, he could take home a girl for sex, at a minimum £500 a time" .

Once I accompanied a monied older relative to that club and the take out price for the girl was £300 paid to her on top of the prices for the drinks.

Well its not over for "Mr Soho" as he is still around to be seen at by the door, meet &greet at a well known West End Lap Dance club.

[Jojosun]

. It's just really odd that London fails so badly on this front. It is the only capital city I've ever been to where MPs are completely underground. Jojosun has responded with posts about police closing down various MPs in London including Sun and Dream. What I just do not understand is the complete inconsistency on the enforcement front. I mentioned Manchester but if you search for MPs in ANY city other than London they are plentiful and easy to locate on the internet. McCoys guide has them all listed. So what is the big deal with London? Short of tantric massage (not real) or escorts it is devoid of parlours without this fear factor. I'm just not up for this quick and dirty walk up stuff. I like to go somewhere where you can get a drink, enjoy a leisurely selection and have some fun. The FKK clubs in Germany are amazing and as you say the Clubs in Spain offer this. The difference in both is that it is all legal. The result is that they don't need cheap and dirty walk ups though SWs are still prominent (again not my scene). I've just accepted that London is a bad mongering destination.

Again, MPs are not Brothels. Brothels are referred to as Parlors and Parlors are not completely underground as some of them advertise openly. Some don't get mentioned here as in a World War 11 Poster "loose Lips sink Ships".

The one that was closed as called Sun& Steam not Sun& Dream. "What I just do not understand is the complete inconsistency on the enforcement front" Different police forces, different enforcement. It happens not just in the UK but in the Us as well.

There are no FKK style clubs as in Germany, But Germany is Germany and London is London. BTW I am just a long time on& off Resident of London & I don't work for London Tourist Board either.

My conclusion, London is a great Destination to visit & live in with great Mongering opportunities. Capital City of the World, period.

Figures tell the whole story http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-is-the-most-p.

It's official: London is the most popular destination for tourists in the world. "The number of foreign tourists visiting London surged by 20 per cent last summer to a new record. Making it the world's most popular destination. "Half a million German tourists think the same as well.

LOL. Now Brits have to fight them for the best spot on the Beaches "We shall fight them on the beaches. For the best spot: Half a million German tourists a year are visiting Britain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...man-tourists-y

[PayForIt]

At walk-ups I normally ask them about services and prices pretending to be a first timer and then say I'll get money and return. It's a real quick and dirty experience, and she will want you to finish as quickly as you can. On the other hand there is nothing like that in the US.

There are *****houses in London. You can be taken there by guys that hang outside of Oxford Circus and Mayfair fancy clubs at the time of closing, and by rickshaw drivers. They all know of those. I've been twice, it's around 150 FS, selection isn't great but decent. I'll have to agree with previous posters it would be great to have quality and selection like that of German and Spanish clubs.

I discovered backpage reading a few pages back. Are those girls claiming real pictures same when you actually meet them? Some are real cute ones and a good Asian and Indian selection.

Hi Sean. It's just really odd that London fails so badly on this front. It is the only capital city I've ever been to where MPs are completely underground. Jojosun has responded with posts about police closing down various MPs in London including Sun and Dream. What I just do not understand is the complete inconsistency on the enforcement front. I mentioned Manchester but if you search for MPs in ANY city other than London they are plentiful and easy to locate on the internet. McCoys guide has them all listed. So what is the big deal with London? Short of tantric massage (not real) or escorts it is devoid of parlours without this fear factor. I'm just not up for this quick and dirty walk up stuff. I like to go somewhere where you can get a drink, enjoy a leisurely selection and have some fun. The FKK clubs in Germany are amazing and as you say the Clubs in Spain offer this. The difference in both is that it is all legal. The result is that they don't need cheap and dirty walk ups though SWs are still prominent (again not my scene). I've just accepted that London is a bad mongering destination.

[Sean EZ]

No not the politicians. Massage Parlours. I have mongered around the world for many years. Benefit of not being married. There are terrific MPs in many towns and cities in the UK. Manchester's selection is excellent. I am clearly not looking in the right places in London. Choices seem to be either:

1. Walk ups in Soho. Damp miserable flats with maybe 2 girls only and really embarrassing to say no.

Thanks.

At walk-ups I normally ask them about services and prices pretending to be a first timer and then say I'll get money and return. It's a real quick and dirty experience, and she will want you to finish as quickly as you can. On the other hand there is nothing like that in the US.

There are *****houses in London. You can be taken there by guys that hang outside of Oxford Circus and Mayfair fancy clubs at the time of closing, and by rickshaw drivers. They all know of those. I've been twice, it's around 150 FS, selection isn't great but decent. I'll have to agree with previous posters it would be great to have quality and selection like that of German and Spanish clubs.

I discovered backpage reading a few pages back. Are those girls claiming real pictures same when you actually meet them? Some are real cute ones and a good Asian and Indian selection.

[Sean EZ]

Can anyone recommend a massage place around Shoreditch area? Many thanks.

[Jojosun]

A).According to an extended family member who was based in the UK in the late 50's (US Military) the going rate for Soho Street Girls at the time when it was legal, the rate was 2 Guineas.

Googling it its =2.10 p in today's money. http://www.retrowow.co.uk/retro_brit...ld_money.html..

So it was 2. 10 then & now 20..

A fellow member jogged my memory on the subject discussed, re a link I posted on the Kiev forum nearly 6 years ago when researching how much to pay for our hobby. LOL This beats Trivia nights & Pub Quizzes.

A book (Ten Times the price of a hair cut) by Nick Storr published under the pseudonym LR Bogarde, gives the answer. His view based on his research around the world revealed that the price of sex was about 10 times the price of a hair cut. So if haircuts prices go down so will the escorts prices according to his research.

When arriving at a new town he asked the taxi driver the price of a haircut to give him an understanding of the sex scene there.

LOL. For cheap skates who are too embarrassed asking a London Taxi driver, this link gives prices for cheap hair cuts in London & hence the price for Sex in different areas of London.

Cheap mens haircuts Soho, London http://www.yelp.co.uk/search?find_desc=cheap+mens+haircuts&find_loc=London#star.

[Jojosun]

A).According to an extended family member who was based in the UK in the late 50's (US Military) the going rate for Soho Street Girls at the time when it was legal, the rate was 2 Guineas.

Googling it its =2. O5 p in today's money. http://www.retrowow.co.uk/retro_brit...ld_money.html..

So it was 2. O5 then & now 20..

Very happy to have been corrected on the above which should read. 2 Guineas =£2.10 in today's money.

Soho prices have gone up 10 times since the 50's.

[Jojosun]

A).I get much more of a kick now when in London in the Chinese massage places. I find it much more of a turn on excitement.

I never pay more than 20 for a happy ending HR, or 40 naked body to body massage + a BBBJ (on few occasions) with a nice looking curvy Chinese girl.

The trick here is to get the haggle out of the way before assuming the position so to speak inside the massage room.

Avoiding this kind a Happy Ending Massage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btheeIEDIrE Happy Ending Massage.

[Jojosun]

This is for the benefit of few buddies who will be visiting London for the first time & doing something that doesn't exist on the other side of The Waters, as well as others who want to go down their memory lanes.

Soho, the background & its walk-ups today.

http://www.amsterdam-red-light-distr...ndon-Soho.html

" In the 50's prostitutes packed the streets of Soho and hung around every street corner. In 1959 though the Street Offences Act was passed and it became illegal to loiter or solicit for purposes of prostitution. Although prostitution itself remained legal it was pushed underground since the girls could no longer openly offer their services to potential clients. To get around this walk ups emerged, a few of which still exist today. As you can see on this page the typical set up is an open door with a hallway leading to some stairs. There will be a sign of some sort indicating "models" upstairs. This will range from a scrap of paper taped to the wall or door to an official looking sign. The police tolerate these places up to a point. If they are found to be linked with crime (trafficking of women, drugs etc) or are causing a nuisance they are quickly closed down.

Walk ups are constantly changing and the ones shown on this page may not be there next week. You also get the odd walk up in areas just outside the red light district proper."

http://www.amsterdam-red-light-distr...n-Soho-24.html

Here is a guide to the Walkups & girls.

http://www.sohowalkups.com/ . I want to try a really big girl, I might give Amy a try next time I am in London.

" If you like large ladies, Amy is definitely one to see. Epic oral skills. If she likes you (meaning you re sober, clean and polite) you are up for a treat The only way you can be sure who is there is to go to the door and look where the doorbells are. The names are up there. You don't ring the doorbell, you go up the stairs to one of the flats and knock / ring".

Prices typical price list of Soho walk ups.

The prices and services are fixed throughout the walk ups in Soho.

Tips.

Tip for maid £2

10 minute service.

Straight sex £20

Sex & Oral £30

Sex & positions £30

Sex & full strip £30

Sex & vibrator £35

Hand relief £20

[CodeWord118] £35.

Spanking (giving) £30

Services that include some of the extras from the list above.

20 minutes £65

Dream time £55

30 minutes £65

40 minutes £85

1 hour £130

As for things being "Unfair" in The London Sex Scene, The Law is an ass." In 1959 though the Street Offences Act was passed and it was now illegal to loiter or solicit for purposes of prostitution. Although the act itself remains legal to this day, in the UK " . Anyone talking a walk around SOHO will notice the Chinese massage girls openly touting for business standing by the doors.

Granted its not full sex service, But still Sexual services is on the menu inside. Hand Relief, BBBJ, even full sex in some places, if you become a regular.

Happy ending massages in Soho and China Town.

Google. Happy ending massages in Soho & in China Town as I am not sure its Kosher to post the relevant link to it on here.

"Most of the massage shops offer happy endings – hand jobs, wanks, hand relief etc etc. But you can never be sure. If you walk in and ask about massage, ask to see the woman who'll be doing it. If she's dressed casually, or in a dress and with make-up on you can be pretty sure she's offering extras. If you really want to be certain, just ask the person behind the counter.

Haggle for the best massage price.

The going rate for a basic massage is £35 – £40 for an hour or £25 for half an hour. Always offer a little bit less, as this DOES NOT include the happy ending. Most places will take a fiver, or even ten less – especially if it's not busy, such as on a weekday. If you're flush with cash, no need to try and knock them down. Most of the Chinese massage girls will ask for £20 for a happy ending. Don't be fooled. Tell them you only have £10. They'll still do it. This is money they get to keep and it doesn't go to the shop owner."

Personally I never paid less than £20 for a happy ending.

[Jojosun]

It seems unfair that this club was selected as opposed to the many other businesses that offer sex in a brothel setting in London and in many other locations in the UK.

Perhaps it was because it because there was no attempt at pretence. Scantily dressed women that one can select from and possibly open negotiation as opposed to the other massage joints where the women are offering massage which you pay for and the negotiation for extras is during the massage in a private room. In some of these places, a HJ is a standard extra and FS is only on offer on the quiet as the owners don't agree (or officially agree!

Or it could be that the locals were complaining about parking, noise, nuisance etc.

LOL, unfair? You are preaching to the converted.

As for reasons. It could be following.

1 Intolerant local Police Force.

2. Intolerant competitors.

3 Intolerant Neighbors.

[Jojosun]

Hi guys,

Will be in London next week and will have some free time for fun. Just a couple of quick questions please if you London mongers could oblige.

A) Is the Tisbury Court peep place still open? I like these places and would enjoy a look to start thinga off.

B) In general terms what's the usual fee for the walk ups? Its a good few years since I last indulged.

Thanks fellas!

A). Tisbury Court is closed & locked up. I found out last night when I checked on the New Chinese Massage place next door, White Lilly Spa.

Avoid the Rip off Clip Joint next door which promises Strip Tease.

LOL. Peeping Toms do have a very good Cheap alternatives to Tisbury Court which I never tried before. .

Thanks again to Dreams for his Tips about Strip Clubs on the other side of Town, Shoreditch area. Free entry, normal bar prices and only £1 in the collection jug for the girls per dance. I don't go for the private dances there as its not a Lap Dance.

There are very nice looking girls. There are few others in the area, but I think the 2 below are the best.

http://browns-shoreditch.co.uk/

Its sister club just down the road http://thehorns-shoreditch.co.uk/.

Here is one in the area I want to try next. http://www.metropolisstripclub.com/.

Lap dancing clubs in the west End are all free entry before 5 pm.

I haven't done a Soho walk up for about 4 years now, but from what I read, its the same starting from £20 for 10 minutes + £2 for the maid.

One of the cheapest pump&dump fucks in the world.

According to an extended family member who was based in the UK in the late 50's (US Military) the going rate for Soho Street Girls at the time when it was legal, the rate was 2 Guineas.

Googling it its =£2. O5 p in today's money. http://www.retrowow.co.uk/retro_brit...ld_money.html..

So it was £2. O5 then & now £20 .

I get much more of a kick now when in London in the Chinese massage places. I find it much more of a turn on excitement.

I never pay more than £20 for a happy ending HR, or £40 naked body to body massage + a BBBJ (on few occasions) with a nice looking curvy Chinese girl.

The trick here is to get the haggle out of the way before assuming the position so to speak inside the massage room.

[Steven Jones]

It seems unfair that this club was selected as opposed to the many other businesses that offer sex in a brothel setting in London and in many other locations in the UK.

Perhaps it was because it because there was no attempt at pretence. Scantily dressed women that one can select from and possibly open negotiation as opposed to the other massage joints where the women are offering massage which you pay for and the negotiation for extras is during the massage in a private room. In some of these places, a HJ is a standard extra and FS is only on offer on the quiet as the owners don't agree (or officially agree!

Or it could be that the locals were complaining about parking, noise, nuisance etc.

Or that the owners didn't pay off the cops.

[Simian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg

Published on 26 Jul 2013.

The Met police raid on Steam and Sun Health Club in Chalton Street, London, in February 2012.

http://taxileaks.********.co.uk/2013...years-for.html

Sauna owner gets two years for running a brothel.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/04/upmark...-year-3869862/

"A brothel raked in more than 26 million a year with some of its prostitutes earning in excess of 100,000 annually, a court has heard.

The Steam & Sun club, billed as 'London's only five-star massage parlour', was raided by police after undercover officers were offered sex for 100.

They found 25 semi-clothed women and naked men in the club's six bedrooms and two penthouse suites. Records showed one prostitute earned 109,000 a year and on one night in 2011 the club made 72,000."

That said, I wouldn't want to be caught in a police raid with my pants down in a situation or a set up where its obviously on the London Police's radar.

Have fun & stay safe.

It seems unfair that this club was selected as opposed to the many other businesses that offer sex in a brothel setting in London and in many other locations in the UK.

Perhaps it was because it because there was no attempt at pretence. Scantily dressed women that one can select from and possibly open negotiation as opposed to the other massage joints where the women are offering massage which you pay for and the negotiation for extras is during the massage in a private room. In some of these places, a HJ is a standard extra and FS is only on offer on the quiet as the owners don't agree (or officially agree!

Or it could be that the locals were complaining about parking, noise, nuisance etc.

[Adindas]

I agree with you about the party in the UK. I party in the UK a few times a month but now my party has gradually moved to Germany. It is not that difficult to find a return ticket from the UK for 70 to many destinations in Germany where you could find the good parties. In Germany people could party for eleven hours for EUR80- EUR100 compare it to what you will need to pay for party like this in the UK.

But for in-call visit to prossies, in my opinion London is still very competitive. If you want to venture (take a risk of getting a bad punt) you could easily find the WGs with the same quality that you will find in FKK in Germany with relatively almost the same rate. It has been reported in many positive reviews in another forum where you could find a WGs with 40 - 50 half hourly rate.

Interesting discussion. I mainly monger in other countries as London is useless other than for escorts. Which I find no good as very often the photos are photoshopped and the girl arrives and is a complete disappointment. Far better to go to other countries (e. G FKK clubs in Germany) where you can select any one of 80 -100 naked girls in a great environment and pay 100 for an hour. Same is true in Spain (though more like 180 for the hour) US, Thailand and even Dubai (more expensive). I posted recently and asked for recommendations on London massage parlours open late with a selection of say 4 or 5 girls. Only 2 were put forward and both well outside the centre of London. So for those reasons, I've pretty much given up on mongering in London. Other cities all over the UK have MPs which enable a choice 24/7 - London is just far too behind on this and despite being the capital city is just very poor. Yes it has thousands of escorts. But you cannot see before you buy.

The reason I responded is this. My experience of Romanian girls is that many of them are absolutely fantastic. I've sessioned with many in Spain, Germany and in other cities in the UK and I've had one or two poor experiences but far many more that were terrific. Romanians are essentially latin as a race. And their passion is unquestioned. I find it really sad when a Romanian girl pretends to be from another country. No need. By far the majority of ladies I've met from Romania are lovely and it is terrible they feel unable to be proud of their origin. I doubt Polish girls are any better or worse than Romania girls. I've sessioned with plenty over the past 30 years of doing this and they too can be lovely. Or a disappointment. It is too much of a generalisation to say any race or culture is good or bad. That is like saying all countries that have red on their national flags are communist! Let's just accept that there will be a lot of great girls out there from both Poland and Romania. And the odd bad apple from both. Meanwhile. Let's hope someone in London has the good commercial sense to open a really lovely massage parlour within 3 miles of Marble Arch which stays open 24/7 and has a great selection of ladies. There is clearly a gap in the market.

[Elrond]

Hi guys,

Will be in London next week and will have some free time for fun. Just a couple of quick questions please if you London mongers could oblige.

A) Is the Tisbury Court peep place still open? I like these places and would enjoy a look to start thinga off.

B) In general terms what's the usual fee for the walk ups? Its a good few years since I last indulged.

Thanks fellas!