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[Face Man]

I was in London for a few days this week, and had hoped to visit a party, but just couldn't get the time off. Only managed one hour free time, and took a walk around Soho in the pissing rain last Thursday night 3/11/11.

Now I have been to Soho loads of times over the years...

Wanking, great report and entertaining too, but your title: An hour in Soho for £4? I thought you would at least have had a handjob!

Face Man

[Adindas]

common practice if you are still young, good looking and have the body to die for, you could easily find ladies who want to sleep with you for free or will do a one night stand.

but once you have reached 40s but still want to sleep with a teen or hot young blond babe 20s or something i believe you must be a very lucky bloke if you could get one of this type. unless you are a celebrity, well known figure. but again this is still something to do with money and power.

even a very young bloke need to work hard to get one of this kind.

once you have reached 40, i guess the common option is to get a 30s something ladies on the pubs, etc who want to sleep with you for free but very rare for a 20s hot young blond babe.

also, i feel more embarassed and personally don't like to use prostitutes at home whilst i see and hear my fellow young peers seem to have sex for 'free'?

[Adindas]

Face Man.

Probably I need to make it clear, in my previous opnion about pimping and body guard is applicable when we invite a girl to visit us in a flat / hotel (So outcall for the ladies to our place not incall).

If I visit a lady in her flat and she does not look similar to the picture shown on the website, I could easily and comfortably walk away. What I normally do is that I usually print the picture from the AW website before visitng. So if she does not look like in the website I show her the picture and explain I want to meet this lady and walk away.

This is what you should do if you are visiting her :

When you ring the door bell and she opens the door, the girl will always be hiding behind the door so that a passerby can't see her dressed in her underwear. Therefore quickly walk in and let her close the door. Then she can relax and you have a chance to have a look at her. If you are going to leave, now is the time to do it. No pimp is going to run after you demanding money, as the last thing they want is the neighbours finding out. Obviously if you move deeper into the property and spend over a minute talking to her and then decide to leave, then they might find that annoying, especially if they have told another punter to ring back in an hour's time because you are coming.

If she is visiting you then you have less options if you wish to pull out. Personally I don't have much experience of this, so maybe someone else can pitch in with their advice. But as I said before, I reckon that the chances of a "bait and switch" scam happening on an outcall are higher than 50/50. In this case you could legitimately cancel, especially if you have warned them at the time of booking that you will do this. But in my experience, if you warn them that you will do this, then they will say that they have someone who looks similar, but who then turns out not to be. I would imagine that if you agree to pay £5 towards a taxi fair, but arrange this at the time of booking then you are presenting yourself as a more reasonable person to deal with.

Overall though, I would say that you can afford to worry a lot less about this subject than you appear to be now. Aren't you worried about the debt crisis?

Face Man

[Adindas]

I did her about two weeks ago. The picture are hers. But it was probably taken a few year ago. Nowadays she looks older has got a shaggy belly but still attractive and shaggable. For GBP60 an hour you could come twice.

I did not try anal as it was not my cup of tea. She is living together with her other friends from Hungary just a walking distance from Dorris Hills Station.

TBH her service is not very good (just an avarage mI will say) as she does not allow kissing and and some other things that other escorst that I have tried will normally allow.

Thanks Face Man, lot of good informations there.

I notice some of the adultwork links already broken. Seem the woman does not stay long, transient?

Shame, there was some you fucked in East End, blonde with tongue technique who looked amazing. Maybe you have her number?

The anal one you mentioned:

http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1325966

Seem like pure filth, I am tempted to fuck her!

[Wanking]

i was in london for a few days this week, and had hoped to visit a party, but just couldn't get the time off. only managed one hour free time, and took a walk around soho in the pissing rain last thursday night 3/11/11.

now i have been to soho loads of times over the years, last time being 2006 and i know the score there with the scams and clip joints and all that. i have never done a walk up hooker there, so i thought i might try that. i had a budget of 30 pound in mind with licking her holes included for a 10 or 15 minute quickie. due to the fact that i am off to germany tomorrow, i wasn't too fussed on whether i got action or not. called to see 5 women in total, all in the upstairs flats that had model written on them right around the heart of soho. all were foreign ladies and all fuckable for sure. had any of those women been working in the type of flat rate environment that i used to in germany i would gladly fuck them. cheapest quote i could get for a very short quickie including licking her holes was £50 pound, and one girl declined the licking! they also quoted £20 for a quick covered blow, and £30 for a quickie fuck. in the end i declined.

i did decide to try the peep show in tisbury court. last time i went in there in 2006, and i recall the girl being horrible looking. went into the cubicle and popped my 2 pound in the slot, and was very surprised at the beautiful blonde at the other side of the window. i mean this girl was cracking hot. she looked russian, blonde late 20's with lovely curves, and great perky titten. she enthusiastically pushed her pussy and anus into the window. i felt myself get stiff, but the 2 pound lasts only around a minute or less. popped another 2 pound into the slot, and started wanking. had only had a few tugs at my cock, before the show was over again. decided i wasnt going to waste 20 quid or more wanking to a girl behind a screen, reckoned i'd wait till i got back to the hotel and do my pulling in the bath there. the bloke behind the counter was russian btw.

i had a look into the revue bar next door, which i was sure was a clip joint. i had read recent reports on other forums that the clip joints are all supposed to be shut down in soho now. there was an old russian sounding lady of around 60 behind the counter, who invited me in for 5 pound.

i said: "i think this is a clip joint?"

her in reasonable english: "was clip joint before but now is honest strip club, only pay 5 pound to entry"

me: "yeah thats what they used to say before too, i still think its a clip joint"

her: "i tell you, not clip joint now, honest business now"

she then pointed to a visa and mastercard sign on the wall and said "if we was clipjoint, we no take credit card. please come inside or go away, up to you?"

i then went to take a photo of the place with my phone and she went beserk and started shouting at me. i put my phone away in case some heavy would come out and cause hassle. then a few young guys came along and paid their fiver in, and walked down the stairs. they certainly didn't look like they were attached to the club in anyway. now if this was a clip joint, it would only take 10 or 15 minutes before the heavies in the club would be looking for hundred of pounds, and the young guys would then be marched to an atm or whatever. so i decided to wait around and see if the guys would come out of the club, either alone and upset looking or in the company of heavies, but after 20 minutes of waiting, they never came out. also 2 more guys paid in that 20 minutes. in the end i got fed up standing in the rain and just left.

so maybe the revue club on tisbury court is a now a regular strip club and not a clip joint. can anybody confirm????

also the drinks menu on the window showed reasonable prices, £3 for a coke, and £5 for a beer or so.

the photo below shows the both the peep show and the revue bar next door that may be still be a clip joint?

http://static.whoseview.com/files/12...0751101242.png

[Adindas]

You could easily recognise, the pictures of ladies on the website have been airburshed / photoshoped in a large extend.
How could people have so perfect silky skin .....????
It might also be taken from other commercial websites.

This is already the first signal. Unless they have got very good feedbacks in the past, this escort service should have been avoided in the first instance.

Hi all,

Just after a quick visit in London and wanted to warn you all from using this company:

http://www.vipasianparadise.co.uk/index.html

Its a total rip off.

The girls on the ads have fake picture and when I entered the appartment the girl started upselling everything!

Don't waste your time on them. Watch out!

[Cock Sure]

Thanks Face Man, lot of good informations there.

I notice some of the adultwork links already broken. Seem the woman does not stay long, transient?

Shame, there was some you fucked in East End, blonde with tongue technique who looked amazing. Maybe you have her number?

The anal one you mentioned: http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile.asp?UserID=1325966

Seem like pure filth, I am tempted to fuck her!

edit: I looked more and noticed a trend:

- lots of MILFs or fat chicks with good ratings

- lots of East Euro hotties (slim to average) with no ratings. A real "punt"

- even one house of 5 women who all allow bareback! Even BB anal! lol. I get the feeling that they are trafficked women, why would they just offer bareback for so cheap or even no extra cost, doesn't make any sense.

[Jango12]

Hi all,

Just after a quick visit in London and wanted to warn you all from using this company:

http://www.vipasianparadise.co.uk/index.html

Its a total rip off.

The girls on the ads have fake picture and when I entered the appartment the girl started upselling everything!

Don't waste your time on them. Watch out!

[Super Cum 500]

i do not think you could escape so easily, at least you need to pay for their travel, taxi.

also be aware, some escorts do work for agents, pimps, etc. in this case they might force you to pay the whole fee. otherwise you will have the trouble.

i used to travel quite a lot in the past. i have been places that you have mentioned but now i limit my travels due to the fact that nowadays i could find the same rate or even cheaper here in the uk. why bother. also the problem with traveling abroad is that, you need to take your annual leave. also there is a limit of your stamina what you could do in a week or so. you go to germany flat-rate style bordello, and do the whole days, you do 3-4 babes in a day in rld or german style fkk, after 2-3 days you will be running out of energy.

in the uk you could do it whenever you want more slower phase and more relax.

i used to live in nw. in manchester and nw region in general, you could easily find young english babes that offer services for gbp 45-60 for half hour. you could even find a massage parlour that offer gbp35 for half hour. they are oridinary young teens, gals, who want to have newest gadgets, luxiries but realize that they could not effort it just by working in the supermarkets, as a receptionist, etc. so quickest ways to earn cash, escorts.

i agree with many off your points. however as for me atm i am based in scotland and via websites such as adultwork for me personally i do not see quality looking girls that you get in london or frankfurt or prague. on indipendant escort agency websites there are some very attractive looking girls on the websites pics if genuine. however, they are from 100 quid for 30mins to over 150-200 for 60 mins. whereas a better looking girl is only 30-50 euros abroad it makes this impossible for me to pay despite the convience.

there are cheaper alterantives but as they say you get what you pay for. perhaps in london, manchester, the big english cities you can get very attractive girls for 20-30 or 60mins cheap and quality service but not here as far as i can see.

off course the cons of travel= cost of flights / hotel, holiday time, excseeive sex in short time period. so its really not so great either.

its a shame we don't have similar prostiution set up here as germany? or maybe i need to move city but i'm not going to do that.

also, i feel more embarassed and personally don't like to use prostitutes at home whilst i see and hear my fellow young peers seem to have sex for 'free'. i also really dislike brothels / saunas which seems to be the best option in terms of price / quality. i hear many attractive eastern euro girls work saunas but not see many or any at all on adultwork strangely? for me i just won't use saunas here. its not an option.

so, i'm unsure what to do?

and you would agree visiting an escort at her flat is pretty much safe bet? compared to outcall? though outcall is also safe i'm just extra paranoid?

[Face Man]

I do not think you could escape so easily, at least you need to pay for their travel, taxi.

Also be aware, some escorts do work for agents, pimps, etc. In this case they might force you to pay the whole fee. Otherwise you will have the trouble.

I would imagine that all of the times I have visited a working girl's house that there is a bloke there for protection. In my experience, quite often all the doors in the house or flat are open, but one is shut. As I said before, it's the girl who is taking the risk, not you. It is perfectly correct for her to want someone to protect her (although I am not defending the practice of pimping as defined under English Law. Ooooh, this could get us onto a whole new topic).

This is what you should do if you are visiting her :

When you ring the door bell and she opens the door, the girl will always be hiding behind the door so that a passerby can't see her dressed in her underwear. Therefore quickly walk in and let her close the door. Then she can relax and you have a chance to have a look at her. If you are going to leave, now is the time to do it. No pimp is going to run after you demanding money, as the last thing they want is the neighbours finding out. Obviously if you move deeper into the property and spend over a minute talking to her and then decide to leave, then they might find that annoying, especially if they have told another punter to ring back in an hour's time because you are coming.

If she is visiting you then you have less options if you wish to pull out. Personally I don't have much experience of this, so maybe someone else can pitch in with their advice. But as I said before, I reckon that the chances of a "bait and switch" scam happening on an outcall are higher than 50/50. In this case you could legitimately cancel, especially if you have warned them at the time of booking that you will do this. But in my experience, if you warn them that you will do this, then they will say that they have someone who looks similar, but who then turns out not to be. I would imagine that if you agree to pay £5 towards a taxi fair, but arrange this at the time of booking then you are presenting yourself as a more reasonable person to deal with.

Overall though, I would say that you can afford to worry a lot less about this subject than you appear to be now. Aren't you worried about the debt crisis?

Face Man

[Adindas]

LOL, lucky us. Yes, market force seems to be working in favour of the punters.

But this is not just in escort/punting world but also in other areas. Look for instance, budget airlines, mobile phones, etc. 10-15 years years ago, where could we get a ticket to Prague, Warsaw, Frankfurt from UK for GBP30. 00?

Thanks to EE ladies who are flooding Britain.

Yes, the prices now are definitely lower than 10 years ago and actually lower than 20 years ago. And that's ignoring inflation. For me, what's more important is the increase in quality. Forums such as this allow us to compare notes and force the bad service providers "to up" their game.

Face Man

[Adindas]

I do not think you could escape so easily, at least you need to pay for their travel, taxi.

Also be aware, some escorts do work for agents, pimps, etc. In this case they might force you to pay the whole fee. Otherwise you will have the trouble ...

I used to travel quite a lot in the past. I have been places that you have mentioned but now I limit my travels due to the fact that nowadays I could find the same rate or even cheaper here in the UK. Why bother. Also the problem with traveling abroad is that, you need to take your annual leave. Also there is a limit of your stamina what you could do in a week or so. You go to germany flat-rate style bordello, and do the whole days, you do 3-4 babes in a day in RLD or german style FKK, after 2-3 days you will be running out of energy.

In the UK you could do it whenever you want more slower phase and more relax.

I used to live in NW. In Manchester and NW region in general, you could easily find young english babes that offer services for GBP 45-60 for half hour. You could even find a massage parlour that offer GBP35 for half hour. They are oridinary young teens, gals, who want to have newest gadgets, luxiries but realize that they could not effort it just by working in the supermarkets, as a receptionist, etc. So quickest ways to earn cash, escorts ...

Also, what happens if you go to a flat or a girl comes to you and you don't find her attractive you can just cancel? Or you still have to pay or pay a percentage? IF I say I'm not paying you don't look like on website or are not hot. They have someone to beat me up?

Thing I like about RLD such as PRague or maybe Germany and FKK is you can be face to face with lots of girls and chose who makes you horny. Also, its not really that dodgy or unsafe. And being abroad they don't know anything about you or where you stay. Etc.

I do like to use girls abroad but then again I don't like to travel and I don't like to have to travel every time I want to bust a nut. Its not really realistic. Sex holidays are a 1 one off thing. I need some options at home also

[Super Cum 500]

Hi Super Cum 500.

IMHO you are being far too careful and risk averse. The average working girl is in the business of sex, not the business of blackmail or burglary. Also, they are the ones taking the risk, not you.

If you do invite someone into your home do the following:.

1. Be aware of the 'bait and switch' scam – they will send someone who does not look the same as on the website. You could even ask them to send two girls and say in advance that you will send one away.

2. Lock the door so that the girl can't leave without you allowing her to.

3. Don't leave valuables lying around and / or never let her out of your sight.

4. Let the girl know that this is not your house, or that you will be moving next week, or something like that. Personally, I would not bother as the risk of a problem is too low.

5. With your neighbours seeing – what's the problem? Working Girls do not walk around looking like tarts – they just wear ordinary clothes like everyone else.

Face Man

Thanks. I would prefer them to come to my house than go to a flat. How safe is a flat anyway?

Also, what happens if you go to a flat or a girl comes to you and you don't find her attractive you can just cancel? Or you still have to pay or pay a percentage? IF I say I'm not paying you don't look like on website or are not hot. They have someone to beat me up?

Thing I like about RLD such as PRague or maybe Germany and FKK is you can be face to face with lots of girls and chose who makes you horny. Also, its not really that dodgy or unsafe. And being abroad they don't know anything about you or where you stay. Etc.

I do like to use girls abroad but then again I don't like to travel and I don't like to have to travel every time I want to bust a nut. Its not really realistic. Sex holidays are a 1 one off thing. I need some options at home also

[Face Man]

(I ask here as its most populated).

I have decided that to pay for sex I will most likely use escorts from the internet websites. Off course I will go for tried and tested with reviews as much as I can.

But I have a big fear to have an escort come to my house. Am I being OTT and paranoid.

Why? Well.

1. I don't want a prostitute to know where I stay. FULL STOP!

2. I don't want any my neighbours to see what appears to be prostitute come and go. (though maybe they won't notice, so not so much an issue)

3. I fear that if prostiute know me and see I have expensive things and nice house etc, as they know dodgy people (usually) maybe she set them up to rob my house or set me up or threaten me or something? Especially as I am very small young looking guy.

Am I just being paraoind. Becuase I would prefer escorts to come to my house as I'd feel most comfortable having sex like this as I don't like brothels. The alternate is to go to the escorts accomodation but as I say I feel more comfortable to have sex in my own home rather than travel through town (I guess sober, not a huge deal but still maybe at home I have a couple drinks?) and have sex in some strangers house.

Whats your thoughts and experience on this?

Cheers

Hi Super Cum 500.

IMHO you are being far too careful and risk averse. The average working girl is in the business of sex, not the business of blackmail or burglary. Also, they are the ones taking the risk, not you.

If you do invite someone into your home do the following:.

1. Be aware of the 'bait and switch' scam – they will send someone who does not look the same as on the website. You could even ask them to send two girls and say in advance that you will send one away.

2. Lock the door so that the girl can't leave without you allowing her to.

3. Don't leave valuables lying around and / or never let her out of your sight.

4. Let the girl know that this is not your house, or that you will be moving next week, or something like that. Personally, I would not bother as the risk of a problem is too low.

5. With your neighbours seeing – what's the problem? Working Girls do not walk around looking like tarts – they just wear ordinary clothes like everyone else.

Face Man

[Adindas]

No doubt.

To arrange them to visit you in a hotel is the best opiton but keep in mind This is the most expensive option, as you need to pay their traveling time, hotel rate.

Also if you book from a non reputable agent the gilrs appear in your hotel room is might not be te same shown on the website.

ADINDAS.

No harm in being careful. I wouldn't have an escort come to my house, either, just too risky. I'm not that worried about the escort per se since in my experience most decent ones are good and honest and realize there's no repeat business in ripping people off. Still, there's always the odd bad apple so you never know. The neighbours would be a worry for me, though.

I don't live in London, but if I did I'd just arrange a meeting in a nice hotel room someplace. I know this isn't cheap in London and nice ones are poor VFM. But it'd be neutral ground and would circumvent most of your concerns. Just an idea.

Stay horny my friends,

Them