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05-07-04 02:32 #529
Posts: 81Well we mongerers lead a double standard. If we are so worried about girls in this profession then we should stay out of it. I do not think anybody would want their daughters in this profession, irrespective whether forced or not. Though I understand where Maida Vale is coming from, we can't become concience keepers on this account, besides you would not even know in most cases whether they are forced into it or not!, If we did not indulge in this hobby, the pimps would not force girls in the first place. It is an economic necessity that forces girls in to this profession in most cases).
This is the last I am going to comment on this subject, at least in this section!!
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05-05-04 22:32 #528
Posts: 9Plea for help people.
I know I've been asking a lot of questions and not giving any much back but I will post what I know up here when I can. For now any help's much appreciated.
I rang Agency Provocateur (or however it's spelt) twice today but no answer. I wanted to see their girl Paulina. I might try again on Friday.
Before I do, can anyone give me any advice on this girl or the agency (www.aprov.com)? From the website they come across very professional and I was going to go with them despite lack of reports. I've tried ********* for this girl. Anyone?
Thanks
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05-05-04 22:26 #527
Posts: 9Maida Vale,
I think your sudden pangs of concience are misplaced. If you start querying every girl before you fuck, mongering as a hobby is not for you. Fuck and forget!
Ramrod
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05-05-04 17:11 #526
Posts: 37Ramrod,
I've no qualms about most of the girls I see in parlours/escorts and I usually adher to the "Fuck and forget" notion but when I am under the impression that the girl underneath me is being forced to do this against her will then it does make me stop and think.
I'm sure some will see it as just another notch to the bedpost but if it was your daughter etc that had been kidnapped from her hometown or arrived under false pretences then I'm sure you would think different.
Anyway, I'll probably be getting pissed up this weekend in SoHo, have to see if I can stay away!
MV
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05-05-04 02:34 #525
Posts: 176Merlin Magician
This one reason why I prefer street girls. If the girl is working the streets she has the option of quitting. In a house or brothel they can confine the girl and force her to have sex.
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05-05-04 02:23 #524
Posts: 243It has become quite clear the gangsters from the former eastern bloc countries are infesting Soho for some time now.
Last year, If any of you in London and the UK and the Western EU heard me on the ITN London radio shows about London and paid sex scene, you would know that I accosted the Chief of Police of the City of Westminster and Ken Asshole, Mayor of London about why the slavery and rip off crap is allowed to go on in Soho with impunity. I asked the chief why two of his regular Bobbies have wifeys who drive new Jags. I didn't know cops who work the Soho beats made that kind of cash on their city paychecks. I confronted them all that everybody was corrupt who had any sort of control in Soho. This is why the white slavery and the robberies and the rip off clubs abound and flourish there.
I still get pissed when I think about it. Legalization will stop some of the white slavery but it will never stop the corruption and the gangsters as long as the cops are on the bloody take.
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05-05-04 02:08 #523
Posts: 81Maida Vale,
I think your sudden pangs of concience are misplaced. If you start querying every girl before you fuck, mongering as a hobby is not for you. Fuck and forget!!
Ramrod
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05-04-04 20:50 #522
Posts: 37I sometimes go to SoHo walk ups, not very often and its usually after sinking a few cocktails/beers in Alphabet on Beak St.
Anyway, Went to one this weekend and there was a youngish looking (19/20) girl from Estonia working, after sorting out the money the girl came back into the room and started asking about what family I had, where I was from etc - usually they whip their clothes off in a matter of seconds.
I could sense something wasn't quite right and asked if she was ok, then out it came - she had only been here a few days, lived in a cramped house with a number of other eastern European girls who were shipped to various brothels to work very long days and service a large number of men (I didn't ask but assume they are under the control of a pimp/gangster type).
As much as I wanted to help her out there is not really much I can do, the police have the odd raid but pretty much leave it alone. but it's raised a number of questions in my mind.
Most girls that are escorts or work in massage parlours choose the to do this line of work, some may like it others may not but at the end of the day its their choice and they can refuse to work/refuse to see a client etc.
However, clearly as some of the regulars to the SoHo scene know, that some of these girls are forced to work there to pay off "debts" for getting into the UK or other things. Now if this girl has pretty much no choice in the matter then that makes me feel pretty low, it never really hit home till this poor girl spilled her guts to me.
Just to clarify, by using the SoHo walk ups are we encouraging gangsters/pimps to exploit girls/women that do not want to sleep with 10+ men a day for very little/if any money?
Would be interested to hear your points of view.
By the way, I didn't do anything with her, we just talked for 10 minutes and I left, I told her to try get away or contact the police but she said that men would hurt her family back in Estonia.
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05-04-04 05:13 #521
Posts: 153Jaas,
When these agencies like Scandalbabes say 150, do they mean 150 or are the girls going to want tips? In America, the girls seem to always hit us up more more money when they get to your place.
V.
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04-30-04 09:44 #520
Posts: 406WARNING!
Beware Cosmobabes. Bait and switch.
Ordered a girl from there who looked stunning on the website.
She was not the girl who turned up.
She was also 20 minutes late. It was now after midnight and I could not get another girl at that time. I decided to stay with the "switch" as she was ok looking, and in fairness the service was just about ok too.
However when the next day I rang back to query why a 250/hour agency switches girls without warning I was told I would be rung back by the manager/owner.
Obviously the call was never made, so I rang back a few days later and was sworn at and had the phone slammed down.
I don't normally pay above 150, or 200 for a call out as there are plenty of great girls from Scandalbabes, Academygirls or Diva and others, but really thought this babe was so stunning I'd go the extra mile. I learned my lesson - pay more get treated like sh*t.
Avoid Cosmobabes like the clap.
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04-30-04 09:31 #519
Posts: 406Jaas,
The price is exactly what it says. I've used Scandalbabes, and a few others and most have been great. Occasionally some girl will ask for extra for anal, and some may have the gall to ask for £10 for a taxi, but you certainly don't have to pay for the taxi, and "A levels" are your choice. Even then a girl charging extra for A is still rare, most include the service in the price, same with BBBJ and BBBJTC (CIM).
Check with the girl/agency which services she offers before you book.
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04-30-04 04:14 #518
Posts: 243Lonely Rider:
All you have to do is read all the little signs and knock the doors. If you dont like what you see, then go on to the next door. This kind of "knocking shop" shopping is expected and the girls understand that part. So don't get all "pussy whipped" and think you have to take the first girl you see even if you dont like her looks or attitude.
I dont know of another city in the world besides maybe Sydney and Brisbane where you can go door to door for model shopping like in London.
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04-29-04 21:56 #517
Posts: 37When these agencies like Scandalbabes say 150, do they mean 150 or are the girls going to want tips? In America, the girls seem to always hit us up more more money when they get to your place.
Thanks,
Jaas
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04-29-04 20:05 #516
Posts: 246Guys,
Shepards Market is half a block from the Hilton Mew. Find directions to that hotel and from there walk down the small hill from there. Once you find the begining of it there are two walk ups there, the door will be open and above the small steps you'll see a poster ad. If you continue down the street, cross a street and pass the parked scooters you'll come up to a red Royal telephone. There's a walk up there too!
Be safe!
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04-29-04 19:24 #515
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Merlin Magician,
Thanks for the directions... what can it be found down there?
Cheers,
Lone Rider
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Not sure but if I had to guess, it would be walk ups, as 'little cardboard signs on the doors' would indicate.
Hey I got an idea, why not go there and find out and then come back and report your findings?