Ivory Coast

[Ciccio]

Another photo of the "athlete in bed". She is a KRU from western Ivory Coast, near Liberia.

There are many ethnic groups there, and it is very important to try to understand the differences.

[Ciccio]

This is the first photo of one of my girlfriends in Ivory Coast.

She is a semi-pro, living in Abidjan and was the “copine” (GF) of a colleague of mine (he met her at a restaurant, were she was warking as a waiter).

He asked her to carry a girlfriend for me, for the week-end, a friend “tres gentille” (very gentle) as they say.

She arrived with a friend, that was stunning. Sorry, but no photos of her.

We remained at Grand-Bassam (see my previous report) for three days, and her friend was stunning in bed. Really. Never went to the beach, but all time in the room.

She was 22, had a small child, and her trouble was that her tits were a little falling down, because she had feed her son. She was dreaming of coming in Europe for having a breast surgery.

She left after three days with a little money for the taxi and said that she will meet me the day after in Abidjan: I’ll never met her again, and this is normal in Africa: never on time.

My friend had a big discussion with his GF (she was giving him trouble because she was jealous and was looking for him all the time at the hotel in Abidjan, where he was staying with another girl: this may be a problem with these girls: never let the know exactly where you live) and she too left the hotel.

I returned in Europe. After some months I was back in Ivory coast and called my friend’s ex-girlfriend, looking for a rendez-vous with her friend, and she told me that she was not there, that her mobile phone was not working, and a lot of other stories, so I said: come with me to Grand-Bassam for the week-end.

If the first one was great in bed, this was exceptional. She was an athlete, and was capable of very weird things.

She was intelligent, even if she had no schooling, and she was poor, and I discovered that each time we went to a restaurant, she asked for the food that we did no eat and carried it home, for a girl that was living with her.

Once we had a rendez-vous for some hours in an hotel, but she had her menstruations, and so she proposed to go to the cinema. Well, she ended up giving me a BJ in the dark.

Once she said: you Europeans living in Africa need a fixed relationship with a girl, or you’ll become sad, and want to go back home, and when you’re home you want to return here.

I think this is true.

Well, with her I made a mistake: I gave her my home address and telephone, and she began calling and writing letters asking for money, for a lot of different reasons.

The first times I sent something, but I ended up saying NO.

I have non more news of her.

P.S. According to the Forum rules, I do not write the names of the girls. Jackson says that Ivory coast is an Islamic nation. I do not think so, but I’m a newbie here, and I obey.

[Frank Africa]

Good report by Ciccio, but I would like to re-emphasize a point he made in passing at the end:

Yes, the HIV-positive statistics might be inflated a bit, but they are real none-the-less and it's just not worth it to take any risks. Even if it is published somewhere that "20% of the girls are HIV-positive" and the real number is only 2%, that's still way too big a risk to take.

Always use a condom!

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P.S. Ciccio's idea of going to Grand-Bassam for a weekend is a good one. I lived in Abidjan for several months back in the 1980s and loved going there. Nice beach, very relaxing, and fascinating old crumbling colonial-era buildings.

Lots of decent hotels right on or near the beach, some a bit pricey (La Taverne Bassamoise, Hotel La Madrague, Auberge le Treich-Laplene), others less pricey (Hotel la Paillote, Chez Loulou, Auberge de la Plage). Try a meal at Maquis Le Quai, Maquis Le Balafon or Maquis Loulou.

[Ciccio]

Regarding Ivory Coast, I know very well the situation there, because I’ve been there many times and married an Ivorian lady.

The reports and opinions of Getopardo and others are correct.

Now the political situation there is DANGEROUS, especially for whites, and I must suggest not to go. Go to Ghana or Gambia, instead.

Bur till two years ago it was a heaven. Lovely ladies, non pros, that wanted to do everything to please you.

There are some important thing to consider:

First: you must speak a little French. Girls speaking English are really rare.

Second: Abidjan is a big town, you will need somebody to escort you, because the taxi drivers do not know the town, and street names and addresses are unknown.

Third: some places are unsafe for whites, especially Abobo and Treichville. Never go there in the evening.

The best solution can be: go to hunt in a big shopping center, the one where Europeans and upper class Ivorians go (like Hayat or Prima) and start strolling around and look at the girls. In a short time some semi-pro will approach you and start talking.

Invite her to lunch or dinner, and ALL hotels are girl-friendly.
You age does not matter, and maybe your looks: an ex-girlfriend told me that the cannot easily understand the real age of a white. She was thinking I was ten tears younger. All you need is to be kind, polite ad correct.

If you have the time, don’t stay in Abidjan but go with her to Grand-Bassam (with a taxy, the fare can be 10.000 FCFA, about 15 Euros) and look for an hotel on the beach in the “Quartier France”.

Grand-Bassam is a lovely place, and a week-end for two will cost you about 70 Euros, including room and meals (exceptional food).
As for the girl, you should never give her more than 30.000 FCFA, and this must be clearly not a payment for her services, but some money for covering the costs of transport and for the cost of her mobile phone. She is not a pro, she's yur girl-friend ("copine").
And never, never give your phone number or your real address to a girl: she will find you in Europe or in the States and ask for money for some medical expenses, or for a funeral, or for the school of her little brother.

If you are interested in a real pro, you can find street walkers in Cocody or in Zone 4 (there is a route called “la rue des serpents”: “snake’s street” because of the whistles the girls are making to passers-by), or in some night clubs, but if you go for dinner in a restaurant (“maquis”, as they are called), try to be kind with the waitress. Sometimes you’ll be really rewarded.
There is an Internet site : www.abidjan.net. Look in the “rencontres” section (on top left of the home page)and click on “Elle pour Lui”. It is fill of girls looking for marriage, but some are clearly of girls offering service. But, as I told before, why look for a pro when the others are free.

In any case, use a condom: a doctor from Red Cross told me that Aids statistics in Africa are inflated because the Elisa test for HIV gives positive results even if you had malaria, but it is really a danger, like all others STD.

And enjoy your stay.

On my next report I will post some photos. I need to cover the faces of the girls.

[Canuck02]

Thanks Bahama!

I really appreciate your suggestions. I am already counting days before my jorney begins. Will post a report on my return.

Cheers,

Canuck

[Bahama7]

Canuck

Good luck to you on this trip. I spent 21 years living in African countries and have seen people's behavior around money, power, foreigners. Be very careful with how you establish the relationship with her family. Everyone will be extra nice and almost unreal to you on this trip as they will see a large $ sign above your head. With poverty as it is in Africa that is understandable. Otherwise African babes are hot and very loving, and know how to treat their man as a king.

Cheers,

Bahama

[Canuck02]

Hello everyone!

Finally, I am flying to IC to meet my prety girl in the middle of February. I have booked Golf Hotel in Abidjan. Does anybody know is it a good choice? Another problem - she wants to introduce me to her parents. I suspect that I should bring some sort of presents for them. Am I right? Any suggestions, what should I buy for them? As far as I know, she is from an ordinary family.

Thanks,

Canuck

[Amis]

Re Frank Africa's report.

Yes, what Frank says about money expections in Africa is very much true. Take it from me as an African who lives in the USA, that is what we have to go through with our African families. And saying you don't have money to send to them does not do. You will never be believed. We are supposed to be rich making lots of money.

[Frank Africa]

Just discovered in the Brazil section of WSG that someone else has also accused Photo Time of stealing. I'm glad to see that Jackson is on top of this situation and has already deleted the post that Photo Time stole from Beavis.

Very strange - why can't Photo Time just put in some time as a regular member like everyone else, instead of stealing just so he can be upgraded to senior status more quickly?

[Beavis]

Yes indeed Frank that was mine. What a bunghole!!!

[Ken Kelova]

I've seen this report before as well. I just figured it was the same guy posting it all over the place. Stealing it from somebody else would not be too cool.

[Frank Africa]

Unbelievable!

The long post by Photo Time just below this message is a 100% copy of a post by Beavis (a senior member of WSG with over 220 posts) made here in October 2002.

I also noticed that Photo Time is trying to become a senior member based on his reports here and elsewhere. Too bad that he feels that he has to resort to outright theft!

[Photo Time]

Report deleted by Admin.

[Getopardo]

To Canuck2002

Speaking from "real" experience (one marriage to a Senegalese girl, one, still on-going, to an Ivorycoast girl), there is nothing very, very different from marriage with a French, or a European woman.

Small differences abound though:

1. "Muslim" girls, in my own and personal opinion, and excuse me for saying it a little too bluntly, don't hesitate to lie. Big lies, small lies, call it what you want.

2. Attitude to money is distinctly different between someone educated in Europe or in Africa. Someone raised in Africa will buy what, to him/her, looks "necessary", even though the total monthly expenditures are much higher than his/her income. In spite of numerous "talks" on the subject, it seems that nothing will ever change this kind of attitude. To this very big problem, I have of course found a very easy solution: everyone has his/her own bank account. After all, bank managers can also bring pressure to bear.

[Canuck02]

Thanks Frank! Your thoughts are very close to my own. Anyway, there is no booletproof solution of my situation and I am going to be very cautious on my way to "heaven". As for Nigireans, I agree with 150%, I have some experience dealing with them. Fortunately, I was smart enough then.

And those flights to Ivory Coast are so expensive!!! :-(((