Ivory Coast

[Frank Africa]

Dear Canuck2002:

Good question that's tough to answer. Some African girls would just want to use you to get a green card and then leave you, especially girls from Nigeria (don't trust anyone from there), while many others are believers in true love and would be loyal and faithful to you. One way to find out would be to get to know the girl's family and as much as possible about her.

Speaking of family, that is a major issue to think about if you are planning to marry a girl from anywhere in Africa (or any developing country), and I speak from experience. The culture in Africa and most developing countries (like the Philippines, for example) is very family-oriented, and their definition of "family" is much broader than in the U.S. or Canada.

If you married a girl from one of those countries, the family may have high expectations for you to pay for school fees, clothes, etc. for the girl's brothers, sisters, cousins, nieces, nephews, the whole extended family, as well as even sponsor for some relatives to move to the U.S.! Luckily the latter issue has died down a bit since 9/11 since it's so hard to get a visa now, but the pressure and expectations for you to send money back to the family is enormous.

Africans who have never left their country usually have an unrealistic view of the U.S. They think that everyone here is rich, and for someone who comes from a country like Cote d'Ivoire where the per capita income is only a few hundred dollars a year, hearing that you have a $50,000 annual salary sounds like a lot, and they don't take into account the much higher cost of living in North America. I know of several Africans who live in the U.S. who rarely if ever go back home because they can't afford the presents and cash handouts that they would be expected to have with them when they get off the plane.

Some of my African and Asian friends also complain that several of their relatives have gotten lazy and even quit their jobs, with the expectation that the US-based relative will send them money every month. Other relatives seem to be sick an awful lot with vague ailments that require cash to be sent so they can go to the doctor. One friend stopped this nonsense by offering to mail medicine instead of cash everytime someone claimed to be ill - the supposed illnesses dropped off almost immediately after that!

I know that the above sounds a little harsh, but it's true, and I speak from lots of experience. I'm not saying that it's not good to send some cash over to your wife-to-be's relatives, just that you need to be aware of this issue before you get married so you can plan ahead. Several friends of mine have solved the problem by setting up ground rules, such as: money only for close relatives (no 5th cousin in the home village nonsense) for school-related expenses, and if the grades aren't good, no more money. If the relative is male, able bodied, healthy, over 21 and not in school, nothing - go become a farmer or go get a job!

[Canuck02]

It is wellknown that most of African girls would kill for a chance to get married to a white guy from Europe or North America. You know I don't mean it literally but they are so eager to leave their poor realities. My question: if you find a gorgeous beauty there and you are getting crazy about her, what kind of a wife one might expect from an African girl? I understand that it is always a guess or a gamble but I think there should be some sort of a general idea about them. Are they fair and reliable in a marriage? Is it worth at all? I am asking about girls from Western Africa and especially from Ivory Coast. Please be reasonable and polite because I am considering this possibility seriously.

Thanks.

Canuck2002

[XXL]

Flights

Flights are bound to be expensive since there's little competition. I understand Brussels Airlines fly to Abidjan (from Brussels). They are the successor airline to the now defunct Sabena Belgian Airlines. They are more reliable than Air France or Alitalia, in my opinion.

xxl

[Canuck02]

Thanks Frank Africa!

I'll try to follow all of your suggestions.

Cheers,

Canuck

[Frank Africa]

Dear Canuck2002:

Your best bet is to fly through Paris via Air France or Rome via Alitalia; also maybe Amsterdam via KLM. Ethiopian Airlines also flies to Abidjan but you may have to first fly to Ethiopia (not sure). Good luck and always use a condom when you are there (even if the girl insists that she is clean - don't believe her)!!

[Canuck02]

Hello everyone,

What is the best way to fly to Abidjan from West Coast (Washington State or Vancouver, BC)? What I could find so far is unbelievably expencive.

Thanks in advance.

[XXL]

To farangsteve and others

I'm glad to hear Abidjan is back swinging again. I'm rather astonished to hear that "most girls were ready to have sex without protection". Before the civil war, Abidjan girls were condom fanatics, as African girls go. Maybe they are more desperate for customers now than before, and they will do anything to please.

Regarding hotels, Ibis Marcory is probably better for girls than Ibis Plateau. The area (Marcory/zone 4) also has much more in the way of action. Adjamé was a no-go areas before the civil war as well. Treichville less so: people used to go to typical African restaurants there during the day, and at night there was Cabane de Bambou and Moulin a Huile, two great hunting spots.

I wouldn't make too much out of the staff's angry looks. This is the African way. The angry looks are directed at the girls, not at the guest. It makes one feel uneasy, but I can't think of a single hotel in Abidjan where a white man would actually be prevented from having girls in his room. Doormen or reception employees will fish for a tip if the girl has no ID or if she is rather youngish, but a small tip will always get you through, within reason.

Let's keep each other posted about this great place and hope it recovers (but not too much, it should remain deterring enough, we don't want the crowds to spoil it for us, do we?).

xxl

[SmallWorld]

Hey Farangsteve,

I have been reading about Africa because I want to travel there because I love black women. Your time there sounded great! I went to the website you advised & there are tons of girls there that want to meet & marry. Did you have to take them out & spend time with them once you met them after talking on the email? Or did they understand you would just take them to the bed to sample them? Did they want to stay around you all the trip? Is it safe for a white guy in Abidjan? Is it an English speaking city? Thanks for sharing & I love that story of how you got that taxi guy to bring you the rap video girl. Did she give BBBJ? Will the girls swallow too?

SMALLWORLD

[Frenchhero]

Well, just back from a 10 day trip to Abidjan.

Not as scary as I expected, but still a lot more scary than Kampala in Uganda.

The situation was fairy quiet in the streets, but the hotel staff did advice me not to leave the "Plateau' zone of Abidjan.
As long as people stay far away from the poor areas Of Treichville and so on, there should be no problem.

There are far less westen people than before, so espect to be warmly welcomed when girls will see you.

Now more about my dates. For those who speak a little bit of french, you should check www.abidjan.net where you'll find at least 1000 pics of females wanting penpals or husbands.
I did send them a few emails before I arrived, so I soon guessed who would be available for sex and who would be too conservative. During those 10 days, I did meet 7 of those internet friends and all of them came back in my room. All of them did BBBJ, but scary to see that without exception they were all ready to have sex with me without any protection. I never experienced girls who enjoyed french kissing that much, not even in Thailand.

Now about working girls, I did ask one cab driver to bring me back 2 lovely girls and he would get 10$ for those and another 10$ if those girls were real stunners. Very motivated cab drivers, as he brought one incredibly hot 20 year old girl who was the spitting image of those nasty girls you see in American Rap Videos. Ell, her friend was not that cute, but she had the perfect big ass.
I gave 20$ to each girls, they both left the following morning giving me their mobile number telling me that the next time would be free. too bad that I did check out on that day, silly me.

It was possible to bring guests back at the Ibis 'Plateau' but the staff always gave me an angry look.

EDITOR's NOTE: I took a few minutes to revise the capitalization and punctuation mistakes in this report. However, with everything else I have to do to maintain the forum, I don't really want to spend my time doing this every day, so I would very much appreciate it if everyone could refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. I don't expect everyone to be a great writer, but it's not difficult to use the CAPS key for names or to put a period at the end of sentences. Thanks!

[Member #4203]

Does anyone have a current abidjan update?
I mean of course the females there are saying it's not that bad.
What's going on with the war?
Did the rebels take the city?
Is there anyplace there that would be safe? (besides Ghana)
I see the posts have been discontinued...

[Beavis]

Thor to start with we both need to get a life as we are here posting on the WSG on Christmas Eve.

As for the women West Africa gets a two thumbs up. It really is unbelievable unless you have been there then you know. The bulk of my time was spent in Nigeria which is a horrible place but full of great women. When I first arrived I thought I was in heaven with all of the pretty girls. Unfortunately after being there a while I kind of forgot about the women as there was so much hassle with everyday life. Many of the women in West Africa are drop dead gorgeous but the things you have to deal with can be a major pain in the keister.

[Thor]

Beavis, based on your posts, I'm sure that a lot of people were considering going to West Africa for the 1st time, as it has been an under reported area on these boards. The instability in Africa is inherent, and a big part of why the choices are great, and prices low. Thanks for providing your posts as a way to learn about this area! thor

[Beavis]

O.K. Thor I guess we were wrong. I know my company was still sending ships to Carena Shipyard around the end of November but I guess they will be going elsewhere now. When I was there I stayed at the Palm Beach Hotel and had a blast.

[Thor]

Beavis, you were right until about 2 weeks ago. The rebels opened a 2nd front on the west coast, with the express purpose of capturing Abidijian. They believe[probably accurately] that if they capture the capitol city, they win the war, and are no longer the rebels, but instead become the legitimate government. Either way, not a great place to be if you're a white foreign national right now! thor

[Beavis]

I heard that the fighting was in the North and Abidjan was still O.K. but I don't think I would want to go there now. I agree with you on Cameroon.