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  1. #2471

    Day 2 is Fes.

    Having not seen a lot of specific info on Fes, I decided to walk to a nearby Spa (Royal Mirage Fes) and see what happens. They advertised 1 HR massage for 400 dh (600 dh for 1 HR + hammam, same as Casa) so I figured this time I'd go straight to massage.

    The girls' eyes told me it was likely there was extra and there was. I wasn't pleased though. Girl teased early and got me going, while taking her clothes off gradually and encouraging touching. She eventually asks how much think she's worth and I say 200 dh. We finally land on 400 for "toute" which I took to mean, well, everything. Everything did not follow.

    I did end up DATY a bit but beyond that she never BJ nor sex. She then goes for a HJ clearly looking to end it quickly but that doesn't do it for me. So I stop her and just ask for a massage. It was OK.

    I'm too nice, I figure that sure I get it, it is a scam, at the end of the day it isn't a lot of money so whatever. But I won't be returning. I'm sure people with more skills than myself would get further for far less money, but whatever. I think I will go for what I presume will be a legit thing tomorrow. And if there are any extras I will hold firm. As they say about negotiating in Morocco, be prepared to walk.

  2. #2470

    Day 1 is Casa.

    Hello all,

    This is my first time in Morocco. Generally, my first time doing anything I will invariably pay too much. I try not to, but all of the unknowns combine to me not having great willpower.

    Nevertheless, I welcome any and all criticism because I want to know exactly how bad I did! Also keep in mind the purpose of this trip is not to monger and I'm actually with people who I'd rather not be privy.

    Based on a review I went to the Hotel Anfa. I wanted to try out a hamman and a massage. In general for massage, I'm happy with a good massage and happier with the extra.

    I had expected an actual bath and not what was essentially a table shower (with the exfoliation). The table was tile and hard and narrow, so it wasn't ideal for that but I had a good time anyway.

    I let her (Sara?) lead the way because I was mostly curious to see how this would go down for me. After light teasing and then heavier with the hand, she offered "la bouche". I said "Combien?" (It had been very clear by now that my French is pretty much worthless, but I like to try). Instead of negotiating, she just said "Combien!" playfully. As if she didn't understand. But she very well did. She just wanted to shake me down after.

    I got a BBBJ that was fun but short lived. She didn't finish, and I did find the table somewhat uncomfortable, having to let me left leg down for support.

    She then led me to the massage room. BTW I paid for 30 min hammam and 30 min massage. The menu said 300 for 30 min and 500 for 60 min, but since I had a mix they made me pay 600. I feel like right then and there I made a mistake.

    Anyway, in the massage room she asked for tip. I offered her 200 and of course she was disappointed and asked for 500. My second mistake is should have started at 40. She offered 300 and she took it, though I should have held firm at 200. I guess I didn't want to miss out on the massage.

    The massage was very good. She also offered hand, bouche, or sex. I told her quite honestly that I only had 200 more. She wasn't pleased but it was clear I was ready to simply walk (my mood not quite being there anyway). Well, after not long, she went for it anyway and gave me bouche with no further negotiation.

    It was an ok BBBJ and she finally got me there. I gave her 240 because she didn't try to negotiate further, and because that was all I had. She accepted that.

    So, it is clear I paid too much and I promise that was a one-off. Next time I will be more saavy. But again, feel free to tell me, as of today's current prices, how bad I fucked up.

    (BTW I was also thrown back by how posh and fancy the hotel was. This place had the complete look and feel of a legit place. How many spas are legit? Or could I expect offers in all of them?

    Leaving Casa for smaller towns tomorrow but I will end up in Marrakech for a few days.

  3. #2469

    Marrakech Hammams

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  4. #2468

    Tray to use whoshere.

    Quote Originally Posted by MtVadose  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, some spots to try out next time.

    I usually buy tinder pro (about 8) and then you can set your location to Agadir, also allows unlimited swipes. I usually do that the day before I travel to allow time to get some matches then start chatting to try hit the ground running when I arrive.

    I briefly chat then push to meet up for coffee / drink to check they look like pictures and come across well before bringing them back. I do get plenty of convos that go nowhere and meets that flake which is annoying, so I try to arrange meeting around my plans not going out of my way, also not too late so I leave time for other options. Basic punting rules of not putting all eggs in one basket.

    Everything included about 50 a night for my one bedroom apartment, 10-15 minutes to beach.
    I tried tinder but its hit and miss, not all the girls willing to go with your place, but I use now whoshere app, its the hookers main station, 99% of the girls work in nightclubs in this app and looking for money for sex.

  5. #2467
    Morocco It is no longer worth it, expensive and risky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    Almost every single airbnb apartment in Marrakesh I've checked now has something like this description now (in French usually but this is Google's translation):

    "In view of the new rules applied in the country, you will have to present your identity papers at your arrival and fill out a police card to avoid any problem of terrorism, prostitution, etc.

    - A marriage certificate must be presented for Moroccan residents.

    - Guests are not allowed in the apartment including Moroccan women.

    If this is actually true and enforced it would mean the end of Morocco as a sex tourism location (which I guess is the intent). How they can actually enforce this is another issue but it does increase the risk!

  6. #2466

    Agadir.

    I will be on agadir for 2 days thanks to recommend me best spa hamam and sex places.

  7. #2465
    This is very bad news. They say this a lot on the air be and be for Agadir also but in reality its very easy to monger there with no problem with the police.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sybarite2006  [View Original Post]
    Almost every single airbnb apartment in Marrakesh I've checked now has something like this description now (in French usually but this is Google's translation):

    "In view of the new rules applied in the country, you will have to present your identity papers at your arrival and fill out a police card to avoid any problem of terrorism, prostitution, etc.

    - A marriage certificate must be presented for Moroccan residents.

    - Guests are not allowed in the apartment including Moroccan women.

    If this is actually true and enforced it would mean the end of Morocco as a sex tourism location (which I guess is the intent). How they can actually enforce this is another issue but it does increase the risk!

  8. #2464
    Almost every single airbnb apartment in Marrakesh I've checked now has something like this description now (in French usually but this is Google's translation):

    "In view of the new rules applied in the country, you will have to present your identity papers at your arrival and fill out a police card to avoid any problem of terrorism, prostitution, etc.

    - A marriage certificate must be presented for Moroccan residents.

    - Guests are not allowed in the apartment including Moroccan women.

    If this is actually true and enforced it would mean the end of Morocco as a sex tourism location (which I guess is the intent). How they can actually enforce this is another issue but it does increase the risk!

  9. #2463

    Crackdown?

    I have noticed that a lot of airbnb apartments in Marrakesh are starting to write something like, "Sex tourism is strictly prohibited under penalty of immediate expulsion and prosecution."

    This tallies with what one of my Moroccan friends told me that the authorities are starting to crack down on sex tourism and have even begun to expel and prosecute Saudis!

    Is this just for show or should mongers be worried?

  10. #2462

    Tangiers.

    I'm planning a week or so trip to Tangiers, mainly for mongering (but also for homage to the Beats and Bowles), in early December, and will prefer to stay in an airbnb or other apartment. My question is: what are the best neighbourhoods to stay in which are close to the best clubs for mongering. As a back up are there any recommended hotels (even if it means paying for a separate room for the girl) which are good hotels and also have a P4P bar / disco scene to pick up top shelf Moroccan girls? The third option I am considering is renting an entire villa to myself.

    Secondly, in addition to Tangier I'd like to visit one other Moroccan destination for mongering. What's better: Marrakech or Agadir or Casablanca? I would probably do 3 nights in Tangier and 3 nights in the other place.

    (I've mongered in Rabat before).

    Thanks.

  11. #2461
    Quote Originally Posted by Zk2018  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    That's a good idea. Do you any other places that have a sex scene like Morocco as I like the fact you get to take the girl for few hours for a reasonable price.
    I don't have any experience outside Morocco, Germany and the UK so wouldn't really know.

    Search around the site on the different country forums I suppose, there are other places.

  12. #2460
    Hi,

    That's a good idea. Do you any other places that have a sex scene like Morocco as I like the fact you get to take the girl for few hours for a reasonable price.

    Quote Originally Posted by MtVadose  [View Original Post]
    It's much easier in Kesh, there are apartment listings that say 'guest friendly' or 'no doorman' specifically to target the sex tourists.

    Not so much in Agadir, I just looked for profiles that didn't say you can't bring guests back or mention a guard / doorman. Then I messaged them asking if the building has a doorman / guard to double check if it's GF.

  13. #2459
    Quote Originally Posted by Zk2018  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply. How do you search for GF on air bnb is there a particular host I should look out for? I have been using hotels on my previous two visits but they are not suitable for a day game.
    It's much easier in Kesh, there are apartment listings that say 'guest friendly' or 'no doorman' specifically to target the sex tourists.

    Not so much in Agadir, I just looked for profiles that didn't say you can't bring guests back or mention a guard / doorman. Then I messaged them asking if the building has a doorman / guard to double check if it's GF.

  14. #2458
    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply. How do you search for GF on air bnb is there a particular host I should look out for? I have been using hotels on my previous two visits but they are not suitable for a day game.

    Quote Originally Posted by MtVadose  [View Original Post]
    I live in the UK. Not sure I can help with apartments, my first time in Morocco I used a contact out there who had GF apartments but the quality of the place was poor. So next time I used airbnb and stayed in a cheaper and better quality apartment so that's what I use now.

  15. #2457
    Quote Originally Posted by Zk2018  [View Original Post]
    I'm goin to try tinder this time I want more of a day game with amateurs some of the club girls have a terrible attitude and want to stay out drinking till 4 am.

    I may need your help with an apartment but I will need a two bedroom as I may be travelling with a friend.

    Are you based in UK?
    I live in the UK. Not sure I can help with apartments, my first time in Morocco I used a contact out there who had GF apartments but the quality of the place was poor. So next time I used airbnb and stayed in a cheaper and better quality apartment so that's what I use now.

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