Morocco

[Raoul]

Hi,

Today I paid a girl 140 dhirams (15 dollars), including 10 dhrs for her taxi.

Who told me I am cheap? She didn't complain.

In Morroco, pay the Morrocan prices.

[Raoul]

Hi,

This is Girl #8. A cute fat girl, really innocent young woman (19 years). I picked up in front of the great Mosquée Hassan II (no kidding) in Casablanca. After one hour of conversation at the McDo just nearby the Mosquée (Morrocco doesn't know the expression: civilization war), I fucked her in the ass (she is still virgin nowadays, she is still writing me). No cash was involved. Just sweet words. Some conservative girls can explode like oil barrels.

[T Poet]

Well I am Amazed! I spent maybe a week or so in Casa and Rabat and checked the nightclub scene but had little luck. I stayed in a villa for a couple of days afterward and it is pretty much a given they will arange something for you. The quality I had two different girls paid 700 Morroccon and neither of them were above a 6 in looks and in bed maybe a 5. Disappointed but I will go back to sample again hoep to catch some of those pretty amateurs.

[Nyc Expat]

Hi Raoul,

You met them on the street on Blvd. Hassan II?. I read my guide book last night on Agadir. Is it Blvd. 20 de Aout along the beach that is exciting with many bars, restaurants and nightclubs?. A travel agent here is offering airfare plus an 2-room apartment called "Residence Yasmina" on a side street to Hassan II. Do you know it?

Enjoy

[Raoul]

NYC expat,

I might seem unbelievable. But 200 dhrs is what I usually pay. Sometimes, it even goes down to 100 dhrs, if the girl is virgin, doesn't accept to be assfucked and just blows me.

I put another cutie to watch. Many of the girls I fucked accepted to be photographed naked and fucking with me. I have beautiful facial shots. But I'm afraid it is not allowed to post them in public.

[Raoul]

NYC Expat,

You are completely right. I forgot to tell that you need to speak basic french to be successfull in picking up amateur girls. But I brought to my apartment who could only speak arabic. I know only a few words in arabic; for instance: zwina, which means pretty. And this word can open many doors! when you told it to girls who are not so pretty and very proud to be a subject (object in fact) of interest for a western man.

A question to the board: for minutes, I posted six messages with pictures. Only two appeared on the site. Are the other ones checked by the administrator (if so why not the two first?). I don't understand. Please answer.

[Nyc Expat]

I read with interest this forum's info about women, the hotel situation and more which I agree in general.

However, you neglected to tell that language abilities are extremely advantageous to succeed. If you speak French, you already have points on your team. I spent a week in Casa and have also seen Moroccan women in this European country where I live. I think they are some of the most beautiful women in the world, IMO. In Morocco, you are expected to converse in French. Their English vocabulary was quite limited in maintaining a conversation both before and after.

I was amazed you only paid about 200 dirhams or less for services rendored. I've heard women working the major hotels in Casa are getting 4-6 times that amount. In addition, the area I stayed at, the cost ranged from 450-800 dirhams for amateurs.

I am also told Moroccans have access to cable TV porn broadcasts explaining their acts of experimentation, yet saving their virginity for marriage. Quite interesting concept.

Just wanted to add some thoughts and hope to return to the country asap. Maybe you think I am better off in Agadir.

[Raoul]

Agadir is a kind of hidden pearl for the sex tourists. Since I discovered it, in 1998, I go there three times a year for ten days. Each time, I fuck between 20 and 40 girls (some day, up to five females). Many people know that Agadir is a sex destination in Morroco. Its reputation is specialy good for gay people.

It’s very easy to meet young men and no policeman would harass westerners for that. It is not the case for straight tourists. So, some practical pieces of advice is welcome to enjoy the Moroccan girls. As a matter of fact, these girls can satisfy many men. The majority of Morrocan girls look like arabic females: short, brunette, chubby. No problem, I like it. But you can find also many girls who look like tall and classy italian or spanish women. You can also find many type of black girls: the western african type or the thinner eastern african type. And some look like german or english ones: they are “berbères” (The Morrocans have arabic and berbères ancestors). Some are blond, not the swedish ones, of course, but they can be very attractive.

To have a good stay, you have two options: the lazy way which is the most expensive and the cheap way which requires some planning.

The lazy way is also the only way if you don’t know the country.

As a newcomer in Agadir in 1998, I stayed in a hotel along the coast (the touristical part of the town, of course). The first impression in this town, like in many others spots in the third world, is that suddenly you become very attractive to many women. I’m 39 years old, rather good looking but not that much (in my country, Belgium, no woman would ever turn her head to look at me). So, with all these girls (sometimes very young) looking at you, you are getting hot very quickly. And you forget immediately to go to the beach. The problem: no hotel would accept that you come in your room with a Morrocan woman in the middle of the day. Some hotels accept it late in the evening but you have to book a room for the girl (in case of a police control, she can pretend to sleep there). Of course, it means that you will pay a lot for the girl: the price of a single room (between 35 and 75 dollars according to the standing of your hotel) and the price for the girl (between 30 and 50 dollars for the night). But if you are not lucky, your hotel won’t accept any girl even in the middle of the night. So you would be obliged to go to the apartment of the girl, almost always dirty and very far from the coast (and try in this place to find a taxi in the middle night to come back to your hotel!). Picking girls only during the evenings and the nights means that you would only find professional prostitutes in the discotheques (the others women, even in their 30’ don’t go out: the region of Agadir is very conservative). And these prostitutes are often look like the prostitutes in the western world: rude, lying (accept to be sodomized and then refuse it when your pants is on your knees) and expensive (and you will have to pay before the fucking) You would also have to pay some extra costs: bribe the doorkeeper of the discothèque, sometimes the policeman in front of it, the taxidriver will overcharge you, and so on.

Remember you are in a muslim country: everything is forbidden unless you can pay. So that’s the way the first timers in Agadir try to enjoy the girls.

You have a much better option. Renting an apartment where you can bring as many girls as you want, 24h a day. And picking the girls during the day is much more exciting. Most of them are not prostitutes. They really seem to be pleased to talk to you. If you are a romantic, you will have your way. But if you want to fuck quickly, ask her to come to your apartment (not too rudely of course) and you will surprized how many women will accept. They can be from 18 to 45 years, students, housewifes, waitresses, jobless (many). Many are still virgin and want to keep their virginity to their marriage. Problem? No way. They would accept to be assfucked. And they really seem to enjoy the fuck (not like professional prostitutes): kissing, sucking, … Many accept to get facial shots even some [CodeWord140] in the mouth. By the way, I’m a fan of Max Hardcore. I take pictures of many girls I fuck. Some are really obscene for girls who are supposed to be honest students (I pissed in the mouth of a student of 19 years who is going to be teacher). Many girls won’t talk money before. After the fuck, you give the money. Sometimes, I only give 100 dirhams (10 dollars). Some girls are not amusing. They tell me: you are like a Morrocan man! But you are in the strong position: they have no other option to accept it and leave the appartment. No girl would ever shout or alert the police (she would be go directly in jail for prostitution). Of course, if the service is very good, you can give a extra 5 or 10 dollars. But never give more than 200 dirhams (20 dollars). You would spoil the market.

So now, you can understand how you can fuck many girls without having a big wallet. Renting a apartment is the difficult part of the trip. No travel agency would offer you this service. I found mine while staying in Agadir. You can find some in asking to taxi drivers or in walking in Avenue Hassan II: it’s in the center of the town (very safe area). Many apartments are available for rent. If you seem to look for it, a man standing there (it’s amazing how many men seem to do absolutely nothing in this town) would surely offer you his service. The apartments are furnished (but not nicely): you can expect to pay from 300 to 400 dhirams (30 to 40 dollars) a night.

If you want some more information, you can email me:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

I attached some amateur girls from Agadir, I fucked.

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[Nyc Expat]

Jim

My guide book mentions 3 nightclubs in 3 hotels.

1. Hotel Menzeh Zalagh.
2. Le Phoebus in Hotel Jnan Palace.
3. Disco in Hotel le Meridien Mérinides.
Expect to pay Dh60-Dh120 entry costs.

Also mentioned hotel terrace bar at the Sofitel Palais Jamaï for evening drinks. Could provide possibilities. Let us know how you make out.

[Crazy Jim Wood]

NYC, Gabin,

Cruising the net I found some reports of action at Rock and Roll Cafe and Cafe Assouan in Fez, see: (www dot dartmouth.edu/~asia/Fez_03/nicholsonEssay.htm)

Orlando also mentioned hotel action, so it seems like Fez is a happening place.

Also found an interesting report on a shikha traditional dancer (plural shikhat) at Dartnouth (www dot dartmouth.edu/~asia/Fez_03/kosonenEssay.htm):

Commonly assumed to work as prostitutes as well as musical entertainers, shikhat [derive their role from the use of] female pelvic power... for pleasure...
A shikha, or popular female performer, Fatiha makes her living by singing, and dancing at parties... while she is present at social occasions central to the continuation of tradition, her profession assigns her immediately to a marginalized social reputation.
[the author describes her dance lessons with the shikha Fatiha] "Even then my association with Fatiha drew a great deal of attention from the staff at the center, especially from the male teachers with whom I had become acquainted. Before we began each lesson, Fatiha carefully closed every door and window shade, and then she periodically checked to make sure that no one was watching. One male teacher often boldly opened the door and entered our sessions to ask me to dance with him. Word of my work with Fatiha apparently got around the center, for even when I ran into men in the complex to whom I had never been introduced, I was greeted as the girl learning about Moroccan dance. "Does that kind of dance please you?" the guard at the gate sneered to me in French one afternoon before class."
Fatilia's dancing focused on the accentuation of her uniquely female aspects. She initiated her movements from the pelvis. She was an expert in its rotation, the rhythmic rolling of the hips and the undulation of the belly. To complement this, she asserted the slight shimmying of her breasts.

Anyone have any experience with shikhat?

Thanks for your help!
CJW

[Nyc Expat]

Bonjour CJW

I was in Casa for one week. Unfortunately, I did not visit other cities. I did buy Lonely Planet's Morocco guide which was very helpful for info. Nearly 25 pgs. devoted to Fes. It's a worthy investment covering your questions. The internet's search engines were also helpful.

Not knowledgeable about car rentals in Morocco. Ask any well known intern'l company for info which I'm sure can be helpful.
Casa-Fes is 290 km. I think Fes has an airport which is probably more convenient than driving. Depends what city you're departing from (European contra North American).
Good luck.

[J Gabin]

Hi Crazy Jim Wood,

I would recommend to have an international driving license, though Morocco definitely allow travellers to drive with a valid American license. This would be useful in case you are in a situation where the police do no know english and they would be more comfortable with the international license. In this case, you would be asked to present your regular license in addition to your international license.

If you are not going to stay in Casablanca, you should manage to buy a ticket to Fes airport, via Casablanca. There are several flights a day from Casablanca to Fes with the Morrocan airline company.

Driving is not very easy in Morocco and if you are not used to it, you need to be very careful and drive slowly, since people, and especially children, might cut in your road at any time.

Also, in Morocco, your car is part of your dressing and people would expect you to drive a nice car.

Don't expect a cheap lodging in a nice furnished apartment for a one-month stay. I don't know much about Fes and there are definitely less offers of furnished apartments to rent than in other cities, like Casa, Marrakech, Agadir...But, I would say you may find some nice apartment around 300 $ a week.

Cheers

[Crazy Jim Wood]

Orlando, NYC Expat and others,
I looked at Orlando's recent post on Fez and others in the archives.

Looks like Fez is alive and well with no need to travel to Casablanca for fun, unless there have been changes since Orlando's last post.

I would still be very grateful if someone could tell me about car rental situation in Morocco (arriving at international airport which I wold assume to be Casablanca), do I need an international license?

How about lodging in Fez, I have seen some internet sites offering local houses for 100$+ per night, I assume that is an absurd rip off?

Any ideas on lodging most economical and condusive to mongering for 1 month stay?

Merci en avance,
CJW

[Nyc Expat]

zakis

don't misunderstand my report. i had to pay for her room in addition to her gift. as you know it's a challenge to bring women to a hotel room in morocco without the hotel getting their share of the services offered, especially at night.

the girl i met in casa city came to my hotel during daytime hours for drinks in the lobby's lounge area but we did not go upstairs.

i think i could have accomplished that in the afternoon without difficulty and extra charges when the lobby was busy with guests.

the lounge area in the hotel had several young women sitting and waiting for "clients?" from around 8:30 pm. the lighting was subdued so i couldn't get a really good look at them from the entrance. of course i could of just walked up to one or more to say hello. i didn't and don't regret it. i was satisfied with whom i already reported about.

next time is another story. really would like to visit again with alot more cash and better language abilities.

funny how hotel's (and the law) are hipprocritical. basically it's unlawful (sw-the nightclub scene) but its not enforced as on the books. they provide a service. the women make ends meet and quite well for some instead of rare and perhaps poorly paid jobs.

activate your pm here on this forum and let me know afterwhich i can tell you the hotel's name. only because she was ****d. would like to stay there again.

let us know how you made out if you visit again.

[Zakis]

nyc expat,

as far as i remember le village was a stand alone disco type place down the corniche past the grand mosque, mayeb 300 metres from there on the left hand side of the road, it was situated next to two other similar discos, past the calypso if i remmeber. i had the same problem as you with the girl being classed as **** however, i don't actually know what the legal age there is maybe 20 or 21 but i certainly don't class a 19 year old as being ****. still the law is the law there and i would not like to get on the wrong side of the authorities in somewhere like morocco as i imagine it can be an extremely expensive experience.

i'm possible going back there for business in december so i will check out the haunts i tried last time again, or maybe i will get lucky with one the office girls in our place there.

the calypso you mentioned certainly seems worth a visit especially with the ration of women to men.

may i ask which hotel you stayed at as this might enable me to have an easier experience in getting a girl into my hotel

zakis