Nigeria

[Great One]

I'm looking for information for a house or apartment rental in the western countrys. I can't find nothing on the internet besides a few highly over priced propertys ($1600.00 us per month). Also would be interested in rentals in ethiopia/kenya. So if anyone could help me out where to find local listings of these, I'd be greatfull.

[Mr Hubby]

Hi,

I'm going to Port Harcourt soon. Staying at Presidential. Whats the going rate? What to do and not (I'm white)? Thanks for all tips and advises. I'll see if I can post some pics after return.

[Jem Hadar]

Rastaman,

Thanks for the post I will put Nigeria on my to Africa list I'm black british what ever that means. From what you've said I'll do OK in Nigeria there like in most African countries if you got the funds you'll have fun, sensible post.

[Jetlagged]

Ref the enquiry about Abuja; Best places are the Elephant bar in the Sheration Hotel (girls allowed in after 10.00 pm). They go to disco in the grounds from midnight. You will have to fight the girls off. Going rate $30 to $50 all night. The alternative is La Mirage. This is open air bar with live music and then into on site disco from midnight. Cool and relaxing place for a few drinks and great to watch the girls dance. Every girl at either venue is available.

[Sekoya]

I was wondering which country in Africa has the most english speaking people?

Do your research.

Look for a country that was previously a British colony before gaining their independence.

It shouldn't take you more than 10 minutes.

[Cash Works]

Great One,

In my experience, the countries in Africa will use the language of their former sovereign due to the number of African dialects. In other words, former British colonies (Nigeria, Ghana, etc.) will have English as the official language of the country, while former French and Belgian colonies will have French as the official language (Ivory Coast, Cameroun, etc.). Angola has Portuguese as the official language since it is a former Portuguese colony.

I would not recommend Nigeria for any sort of holiday. If I'm being paid to go, no problem, but I wouldn't go there on my own nickel. Other English speaking countries I've heard about, but haven't actually spent much time in are Ghana, South Africa and Kenya. I've never been to Kenya, but they're actually set up for tourism (safaris at the game preserves and there are apparently some resorts on the coast around Mombasa). I've only been to the airport in Joe-burg, but South Africa is apparently very nice, I've met a number of people who choose to go there for holidays. I've only been to the airport in Ghana, but I used to work with a British guy who had an apartment there - he spent about 2 months per year there (said he paid rent for something like 3 years in advance - cost less than one or two months mortgage on his London flat).

CW

[Great One]

Cash Works,

Great info, thanks. I want to go to travel africa for a while but I'm still not sure where to start. I love the looks of a nice looking black women but cannot stand their gold digging, play you, lieing personalitys. That's how all the ones are here that i've met in the US. So I was hopeing to find some decent ones in africa. But It sound like the people in Lagos are like the black americans I know and have met in the US. Sounds like I wont go there because I can't stand people trying to hustle me, I want a vacation from where I'm at because of people trying to hustle me.

Tyrell, I live in Portland, OR. Been at the scene for past 14 years here. So that probably has some thing to do with it. Also I don't find women all the time for 25-40 a night here. I was simply thinking if that is what people are paying in africa, I mines well save the travel cost and stay here. But as you can see the avarage cost from most post is $10 to free in africa, wich makes it desirable.

I was wondering which country in Africa has the most english speaking people?

[Cash Works]

Gents,

I haven't been to Nigeria in 5 or 6 years, but I never paid more than $15 US for all night. That was in Warri. I never did an all nighter in Lagos, just ST (2-3 hours with multiple pops) and usually paid $10 US or less. In Lagos, I picked girls up at the Ikoyi hotel or Coco's bar usually (I can't remember where Coco's was located - on the river in Victoria?). I also had a couple nights in some bars near the docks (no idea on the name of the bar or which part of the dock, just that it was stumbling distance from the ship I was working on - not a bad bar & had rooms upstairs). In Warri, I would get girls at the Beachcomber Bar or Aunties Kitchen.

Travel Capt is right. Entry into Nigeria can be shocking. Murtala Muhammad Airport in Lagos used to be considered the least secure international airport in the world by the US FAA (all airports in the US with commercial flights used to have a sign stating this - I would sometimes have my picture taken next to the sign when I was heading to Nigeria).

The following is a note I wrote to a couple of guys who PM'ed me about Nigeria, I wasn't going to post it, since I haven't been recently, but due to queries on this thread, I guess I'll go ahead and post it. I hope you find this useful.

CW
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I haven't been to Lagos in about 5 years, so my info is probably a bit dated, but here's what I got:

Rule # 1 - Keep your wits about you at all times, pay attention to what's going on around you. Most, if not ALL, Nigerians are out to scam you. Especially the ones in uniform.

Rule # 2 - Don't get too drunk or you won't be able to follow rule # 1.

Rule # 3 - Never lose your temper, you're a visitor in their country after all. Besides, if you're really pissed off, you're not following rule # 1 and any of the locals who see you losing it, will have you pegged as an easy mark.

Rule # 4. - Always try to find the humor in every situation, no matter how fucked up or adversarial it might be. Nigerians enjoy a good joke as much as anyone else - if you make them laugh, they're less likely to rip you off - but don't get carried away, remember rule # 1.

I'm actually glad that I had the opportunity to work in Nigeria. I first worked there in 1988, for the first 6 months or so, I was really pissed off about the whole deal, then I bumped into a (senior) co-worker while I was on break in Brasil. Naturally, I vented all my frustrations about being stuck in Nigeria - he told me a few stories of his own personal experiences while working there that had me laughing my ass off. Then he asked me to tell one of my own stories - something that was all fucked up and really pissed me off - by the time I was finished, I was laughing about it, even though I was really pissed off while it was happenning. He explained that the key to surviving in Nigeria is to see the humor in a situation as it is happenning (Rule #4) - If you examine "adventures", unless they're orchestrated (like a rafting trip or something), you'll probably find that the "adventurers" really thought the situation (adventure) sucked while it was happenning - it only became an adventure once they were safely back in their normal environment. After that, I started looking at things with a more relaxed attitude and eventually, the humor of most situations there began to present themselves to me as it happenned. I wound up working there off and on for the next 12 years. Most of the time, I was either off shore or in/around small coastal villages, but I would spend a little time in Lagos, Warri or Port Harcourt when travelling to and from work.

Danger - yes, Nigeria is a dangerous place, but if you follow rule # 1, then you can usually keep yourself safe.

When you arrive in Lagos, be very careful who you hand your passport to. With luck, your company will have an agent meeting you - if so, the agent should have some sort of company ID showing that he is working for your company.

The company I used to work for had a lot of expats & even more locals working in Nigeria - we always had an agent (local guy/girl) meet us on arrival, just before immigration - everyone going to Nigeria knew this, but problems still occurred due to first timers not checking ID. These guys would arrive wearing a company hat or t-shirt or something (sticker on the brief case?), some scammer would introduce themselves as the agent, ask for their passport and $100 (In the late '80's you were required to change USD $100 upon arrival in Nigeria - this practice was stopped in the early '90's), then disappear - some time later, the real agent would appear & have to try & sort the problem out. There's a HUGE market for stolen passports - be careful who you give it to.

If you don't have an agent, only give your passport to the guy in the booth who is checking your visa. Once you get out of the airport & check into your hotel, lock your passport away - If you get stopped at a road block & they ask for your passport, tell them that it is in your hotel safe (it might be a good idea to get a photocopy of the cover page, visa stamp and entry stamp to carry around with you). Police have been known to get hold of peoples passport on the pretext of checking the validity of their visa (not their job), then refuse to give the passport back unless you pay them some money. The senior co-worker I mentioned above, said that many times he would act like he was asleep when they arrived at a road block - seems the cops were reluctant to wake a sleeping foreigner since they really had no business stopping you in the first place.

Women: Prostitutes are everywhere. A lot of women may do the deed just for some quick cash, even if it's not something they do normally (be careful here, if you approach the wrong woman, all hell could break loose). I never did a lot of exploring around Lagos, I mostly stayed around Ikoyi, where we had a staff house. 2 places that usually had working girls were Coco's Bar (out door bar on one of the rivers - also has some rooms for short-times), and the Ikoyi Hotel (I actually had a wonderful evening with a beautiful girl I picked up at the Ikoyi Hotel - she took me to Coco's for the deed - she said she was a student - I suppose this made a difference?). Another time, I was actually onboard a ship that docked in Lagos (not sure what part of town this was) but there were a couple of bars with short time rooms within walking distance of the ship, I'm pretty sure there were more than two, but I only went in two. Sorry, don't remember the names - this was about 10 years ago.

Villages are interesting - some will actually have *****-houses, others, if you are in the area for a while, the chief or one of the men may actually present some women for you (sex is a natural thing after all & it requires a partner if it's to be done correctly). My first trip there, I was spending my days working just outside a village for about 10 days. The job I was doing had a lot of down time & the locals quickly became interested in me. I had a small gold chain that I wore around my neck & this woman came by and said "you dash me that chain, you marry my daughter" I had to turn her down, her daughter was obviously very under-aged. But the idea that she would basically sell her daughter to me for a necklace that was only worth about USD $75 astounded me. Later, the village Chief started hanging out with me. He was pretty cool, never hit me up for "dash". One time I pointed out this shy girl (looked to be late teens or early twenties) who had been checking me out for a couple days, but always ran away when I motioned for her to come closer - the chief said "you should jig her" I said "where? I don't have a house & there are children all about." The chief pointed to some brush & trees and said "take her there and jig her, the children will leave you alone." Unfortunately, we finished up that afternoon & I didn't get to "jig" that particular girl - in the bushes, or elsewhere.

If you're a Black American, you may be everyone's friend in Nigeria. I've worked with 4 Black American men in Nigeria & everybody there seemed fascinated by them. I'm pretty sure that part of it was their attitudes (all of them had a lot of self confidence). 3 of these guys were definite pussy hounds and were constantly getting free pussy from regular women as well as pros. They rarely got hasseled by the men as well. I'm white, so don't have any first-hand experience from this perspective. The other guy was very married, but said that it was all he could do to remain "faithful to the wife."

One thing of note about Nigerian women: a large number of them have very droopy tits. Many of them start having babies at a very early age & the tits suffer as a result. I've had sex with a number of women from other countries who had children, but none of them had pancake tits like the Nigerian women. Don't know if this is solely due to child birth, or if it may be dietary. That said, I have had a few Nigerian women with exceptional tits as well, so, YMMV.

This is the first time I've ever tried to do a write-up on Nigeria. I'm pretty sure I could write a novel. As for rules, I'm sure there are other rules to live by while there, but these 4 were the first ones to come to mind.

[MickTheKick]

I'm going to visit my European working girl top act during her holidays in Nigeria. Yes, I truly love this girl and beside that my visit is first sneek into mongering in Africa...

Can anyone give some info or advice about the country, epecially about entering it?

I read that bribing while entering via Lagos airport is quite common, OK, but how much do I have to expect at each official/inoffocial checkpoint ? How can you tell real officials from fake officials ? How to behave in general?

Does enyone have a good tip for a hotel in Lagos and in Benin City below the Sherator/Meridian price level (in the US$100 range)?

I alrady contacted a local WSG buddy for assistance but this turned out to be much to expensive in my eyes... Does anyone know a local guide who doesn't cost me some hundreds of US$?

[Big Dave Ray]

Anyone know the scene in Abjua? Like prices. locations ect.

[Tyrell]

(I'm shocked to read that the recent prices paid of n4000, about $30 us and another person paid $40 us. I live in the US and have got women for that much here for the night.)

Great One

Perhaps I shouldn't clutter up the board, but I had to ask. Where in the Hell do you find those prices!! $30-40 for all night, perhaps I need to leave NYC and go hunting in your hunting grounds. PLEASE post details. (I'm sure that I'm not the only one that needs to know).

[Great One]

I'm shocked to read that the recent prices paid of n4000, about $30 us and another person paid $40 us. I live in the US and have got women for that much here for the night. I read in past reports that some where paying a little over $10 us for the night(reasonable). So what's the deal on the prices. I was planning a long trip to africa, but if the women are expecting $30-40 us a night forget it. I find it crazy to pay that price when the average income of people in nigeria is $300 us a year and there is such a high aids rate.

[Travel Capt]

Hot Tongue, Sorry for not posting with a reponse to your query.

I've been away in Nigeria.

First thing any traveler to Nigeria should think about is an agent there to recive them on arrival. You will always have to be on guard for scams from everyone. Once you know your way around and have those you trust looking out for you Nigeria is heaven for
a monger.

Hot Tongue pm if you have more queries.

Cap!

[Eric Emp]

I had a chance to go to Y-Not & last week. Few girls there some are very pushy, Finally piked on slim girl Stela. She asked for 5000 (1US = 136 NR). I offerd her 3000, and finally agreed on 4000.

No problem binging her back to the hotel, Once in the room She suggested Shower, Sounds good to me, But than she started to waist time in the shower ( which I don't like).

He service was not bad.In the morning she was asking for more money, But I didn't may her moore than 4000/- ( deal is a deal).

Over all experiance was average

[Tanster]

Mongers,

Recently visited Lagos for one night en route to Port Harcourt and stayed at the Sheraton. I enquired about things to do for my one night with my driver. He got straight to point and suggested visiting some drinking bars and possibly inviting a girl back to my room. He explained this was quite popular with foreign vistors to Lagos.

Anyway, excited by prospect of banishing my boredom, I hooked up with my driver and we drove to Victoria Island. We drove by a bar "Y-not or Why Not" (I recall). I felt awkward strolling in alone and as the place had numerous girls hanging out outside, I felt it best to "check out" the talent from the safety of my car. It was my first time in Nigeria and I was warned of potential dangers.

Generally most girls were between 4 and 8 skewed towards the high end. As our car stopped, they all congregated around trying to strike up conversation. I spotted quite a good looking one - roughly 8. As it was getting late, I felt it best to bring her back. She agreed to $40 for the night (probably ripped off I could not care at this stage).

Brought her back to Sheraton and was no problem to bring her to my room. The guys just asked she sign in a guest book for my protection.

Back in my room, after a quick shower, got down to business pretty quickly with a blow job. She was not too good at this so I moved on pretty quickly. First focus was on getting her to orgasm. She seemed quite enjoy it and got very very wet. Then moved on to missionary, doggie style, spoons, etc. She was not brilliant but was great GFE. In the 8 hours with her that night, I came 5 times and only got some 3 hours sleep.

In the morning, I gave her a $5 tip and she left happily.