Nigeria

[Beavis]

NO JG it doesn't work like that. If you get a fiance visa for a girl they are looking at it like you want to be with this girl forever. Basically you get one chance at this. Possibly you could get a second but not very soon, getting several is not possible. I think INS officials and IRS officials go to the same school to learn how to be assholes.

You are right if a girl is established, has money, kids, ect. it isn't a problem but you still have to go to the U.S consulate, pay for an appointment and be scrutinized by these people. I have a friend who had a Mexican GF. She had money in the bank, (more than me), owned a couple of houses, had 1 kid and came from a wealthy family. They went to get her a visitors visa. They didn't bat an eye and gave her a 10 year visa, she was 28. This is no problem but when you go there as a 30 or 40 year old man (or whatever) and you have a sexy 22 year old and you are trying to get her a visa, good luck. It can be done but isn't simple.

[XXL]

Student visa

I fear putting several thousand bucks in a bank account in a girl's name can still be risky, even if you promise her a long-term relationship. That kind of money is simply too good to pass in some very poor countries.

But even if you're willing to take the risk, you're back to square one if the girl is very young and has no previous education, because student visas are for people with some kind of educational record. And, as hinted below, that usually excludes the type of girls we're interested in.

Faking a high-school degree is also possible, while we're at it. But I know for instance that the German consulate in the Philippines and Nigeria now employ local lawyers - at the applicant's expense ! - to scrutinise application papers.

If you really want to, you may appoint a local expert to lobby and bribe the consulate and procure whatever documents, genuine or fake, are needed to tip the scales. But then you're soon talking big money, and if you have that kind of money, you might as well retire on it and go to settle down where the girls are.

Otherwise, trying to outwit consulates resembles weapon inspections, with us mongers as the wretched Iraqis.

[Member #4239]

Hi Beavis. I agree with what you say because I know that your posts are factual and intelligent.
Let me just say that I was in Guadalajara, Mexico in September and I met several girls through a marriage agency down there, and with few exceptions these girls had travelled various times to U.S. and in fact I remember one 28 year old who had travelled more of the world than I had. I think if you are a "high class" Mexican, or in other words if you have a lot of money OR can show that you have some money, then getting the visa is not that hard.
But then again, if you say that getting the visa is in fact very hard, then I stand corrected. Respectfully. J.G.
P.S. By the way Beavis, what does your lawyer friend say about the fiance visa? Could I bring a different girl every few months on a fiance visa and then ship her back home after a couple of months?

[Beavis]

J.G. it is not that easy for Mexican girls to enter the U.S. It depends on who you know and what imigration official you have. There are tons of people here in Texas trying to get visas for girls and have tried everything. Mexico is probaly the hardest country to get a visa for a girl. Remember the U.S. consulate has to see her and if she is young and pretty they are not going to buy the "I want to learn English routine". I have a good friend who has been working for years to get his girl a visa and is getitng close but still doesn't have it. I also have another good friend who is a fellow monger and senior partner/founder of a large imigration law firm. He will tell you the same thing. It can be done but there is nothing easy about getting a visa for a Mexican girl. I know this is the Nigeria section but I have seen a lot on this subject since I live in South Texas. Have a good one.

[Member #4239]

The visa situation here in U.S. is bad, but not yet desperate. First of all, it is still quite easy to bring MEXICAN girls in to U.S. on legitimate student or tourist visas. For the other latin countries, here are some suggestions which have actually worked. You get an English school here in U.S. to give the girl a letter of acceptance. The acceptance is automatic, but the application will cost you about 75 to 100 bucks. You can go to a bank in that particular foreign country and say I wanna open up a bank account in the name of senorita X and put 3000$ or 5000$ in it. Then you ask the bank to write a letter stating that this girl has this much money in her bank account on such and such date. Once you have the letter, you close the bank account(of course you will suffer a penalty for closure and maybe for currency exchange). Or I imagine that you could just outright bribe some one to write or forge such a letter for you(which I have never attempted). So you have a letter of acceptance from the English school, you have a letter from the bank showing that this girl actually has some financial means of her own, and is just wanting to come to U.S. to study English(as opposed to staying in U.S. permanently). You turn these documents with the rest of the stuff to the U.S. consulate and then wait for their decision. People who have this kind of documentation will almost never be turned down, and it actually is quite easy to get these documents together. The only tricky part is opening the bank account in the girl's name and then asking her to close it and give you back the money. If this is a legitimate girl friend, and she trusts you(in other words if she hasn't found out what a monger you are!), she will always close the bank account because she is expecting bigger things down the road. Sounds half complicated, but it's not. I know for a fact that it works for latin america. So if there is a special girl that you wanna bring over to enjoy for a few months to a year, it may be worth spending some money and getting her a student visa to study English here.

[DogDays]

You see what yuor Dad did ?So many fine ladies from SA would have been living here and we don,t have to go there looking to get that piece of that honeis from them,guess you messed up everything for us your Dad .Now his son is a monger.This world is Funny.

[TonydaSnake]

xxl,

I agree with you completely on your visa theory. I live in the USA and would love to find hot, young (or not so young) women from Africa, Asia, South America, etc. but I HAVE to travel since they are not to be found in any numbers.

I met a very cute lady from Equador recently (27 years old) who told me she was denied a visa to enter the United States 7 years earlier. Guess who was the consular officer at the Embassy in Quito at the time? My dad. His explanation, very simple, was she was coming to stay and had no intention of honoring her visa status.

I don't think that help my chances with this lovely lady! Thanks for nothing INS!

Wouldn't it be great if immigration was as focused on helping us find and enjoy exotic foreign fruits as finding worker ants for our industry? That's probably not going to happen!

[XXL]

Girls on tourist visa in Europe

As recently as five years ago, it was no problem bringing girls into Europe on a tourist visa, even from notorious pussy countries such as Thailand and the Philippines.

Things have changed since then:

1) European consulates have made it so difficult and expensive to get a visa for girls from pussy havens that it has become nothing short of prohibitive. For instance, they will insist that the girl has money in a bank account, a high-school degree and/or proper employment in her country. Now, tell me how many of those young and sexy things we are interested in possess such attributes in Africa or South-East Asia? The message in disguise is: you can bring a girl provided she's middle-aged and ugly. If she's young and sexy, no way.

I'm not making any of this up: most European consulates, as might be expected, now appoint women as consulate employees and, believe me, those Gorgons know how to kill a visa application as soon as they suspect a good ass and a nice pair of tits underneath those jeans and sweater.

I would be surprised if US consulates didn't make it even more of a uphill struggle.

2) Even if you eventually get a visa (e.g. by fighting for a "marriage visa" instead of a mere tourist visa), they make you sign a liability paper that is nothing short of financial suicide. If the girl doesn't want to go back when the visa expires, you've had it. And since visas have become very hard to get, the incentive for a girl to go underground instead of flying back is high. A catch 22 situation.

The mob still manages to get girls through borders, of course, and they always will. It's the drug war all over, only this time with the girls as the commodity.

[Member #4239]

Headgames
You are absolutely correct. The politicians and the arch masturbators(i.e. religous leaders) don't want to deal with the root causes of the problem which are poverty/lack of jobs/bad or no parental guidance. The result are these idiotic laws.
xxl
I know you are based in Europe. Which immigration laws you are referring to? In the U.S. , so far we still have the "fiance visa" where you can bring a girl with you and have her here for 90 days. But she'll have to go back if you don't get married within that time period.
I wonder if anyone has tried bringing girls on a fiance visa for a couple of months, get rid of them, and then bring another fresh girl on another fiance visa. Sounds like you may be able to have 3 or 4 "fiances" per year if you can get away with it. Any body has any comments on this?

[HeadGames]

yeah, we've got terrorists trying to blow up the country, and a revolving-door justice system that lets murderers and [CodeWord127] back out on the streets. but if i attempt to engage in a transaction that involves only one other willing participant (a young lady), then the cops are out there spending my money (i.e., taxes) to try to put me in jail, where i can no longer pay taxes, or even support my family. it makes absolutely no fucking sense whatsoever. it is insane. as long as i'm on a rant, although i do not use drugs, do not condone the use of drugs, and fully recognize how drugs destroys lives, i think the war on drugs is an equally insane proposition. a certain segment of the population is going to do themselves in, regardless of whether it's illegal or not. so why make it profitable for drug dealers?

ok, i'll shut up now.

[XXL]

J.G.

Exactly. But making a shitload of money is not within everybody's reach. If I had a son wondering what he's going to do with himself, I'd advise him to learn any trade provided it enables him to GET THE HELL OUT'A HERE.

In former days, what you could do is marry a young beauty from one of the pussy countries and give her and yourself a good life at home.

Now that is no longer a viable option, what with visa restrictions (yes, our women now how to protect their market) and rotten marriage/divorce laws which have turned marriage into a trap for fools.

[Member #4239]

xxl
Nice post. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Listen, the solution to the problem may be to make a shit load of money and then go retire in a pussy heaven.

[Johnny59]

Hello everyone,
I am going to Ghana, Togo, and Benin in a few days. And I would love to cross to border to go to Lagos. How on earth I do that. I have heard that they don't give visas to tourists. Then what? Can I trick my way into Nigeria anyway? Anyone help me please.

[XXL]

Hi Headgames !

Can't get pussy in your own country? Join the club! Don't think it's an American problem. I'm based in Europe and it isn't better. Prostitution laws may be more tolerant over here, but the market is so bad anyway you can't get decent sex unless you're loaded. It's an industrialised country problem, and it plagues all men, whether divorced or married, young or middle-aged, poor or fairly well-off. And it gets worse from year to year because of restrictive immigration laws (among other things). Besides, in a few year's time you'll have sting operations in Europe, just as in the US. As I said, things only get worse.

What kind of life do you have as a man in this Free World we are supposed to be proud of? You can't get pussy. You get prosecuted or ripped off if you try and get some. All you're good for is to work, pay taxes, alimony and child support for children you're not even allowed to see most of the time.

Tell me something, now that the Talibans got what they deserved : who will free us men from the Talibettes at home?

God, I'm waxing political here, and we're just suppose to be exchanging tips on how to get relief from our sexual misery by flying off to the other end of the world. Still, it's good to put things into perspective from time to time.

[HeadGames]

Yeah, that's a good point - you just about have to go somewhere where you there's the possibility of getting hassled, shaken down, robbed, whatever, in order to find the pussy. America is a great country in many ways, and yet, it's a pussy desert. I mean, it is a fucking desert! I've completely given up on getting pussy here. I realize that the fact that I'm married has a lot to do with it, but I don't remember getting squat before I was married. But If I go someplace like Brazil (my usual haunt) - ba ding! Pussy flows like water.

I got robbed in Brazil (see Rio forum), but I'm still going back.

Of course, you have to draw the line somewhere. I'd love to go check out the Nigerian women, but...I think I'll just stick with Brazil.